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No I think it's the fact that I'm in crystal plate armor and a Minotaur. I guess I need to decide if my artifact armor is worth getting rid of to trade for spell casting or not. Thanks though that answers my questions.
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# ? Nov 27, 2016 18:18 |
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Yeah it will take a comedically high skill investment to cast just about anything in a CPA with MiFi level int. I've gotten really low level stuff castable on a 15 runer in CPA but it was mostly because I had nothing better to put exp in at that point.
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# ? Nov 27, 2016 18:27 |
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Reformed Pessimist posted:No I think it's the fact that I'm in crystal plate armor and a Minotaur. I guess I need to decide if my artifact armor is worth getting rid of to trade for spell casting or not. Thanks though that answers my questions. Yes, that would do it. Try taking the armor off, while you're somewhere safe. Marvel as those red 100%s drop.
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# ? Nov 27, 2016 18:29 |
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Then put it back on because you're a loving minotaur with CPA, why do you need spellcasting
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# ? Nov 27, 2016 18:32 |
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Yeah just put a rock on your tab key and come back in a few hours to see if you've won.
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# ? Nov 27, 2016 18:46 |
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someone awful. posted:No Sanctuary? Door/stairs got locked on me with boris and mara in the room.
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# ? Nov 27, 2016 19:42 |
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thanks bud
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# ? Nov 27, 2016 19:45 |
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I got given a robe of vines by xom, as a vinestalker. Then I got one-shot by an ettin.
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# ? Nov 27, 2016 19:45 |
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E Equals MC Hammer posted:Door/stairs got locked on me with boris and mara in the room. Speaking of Boris:
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# ? Nov 27, 2016 20:58 |
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mormonpartyboat posted:
What's the problem here?
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# ? Nov 27, 2016 22:19 |
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Also can someone give me a really basic explanation of how to get rid of the *more* messages for mass combat? I've been trying to play summoners recently and mashing spacebar gets old really fast when there's 50 things on the screen.
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# ? Nov 27, 2016 22:20 |
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ClothHat posted:Also can someone give me a really basic explanation of how to get rid of the *more* messages for mass combat? I've been trying to play summoners recently and mashing spacebar gets old really fast when there's 50 things on the screen. in your rcfile: show_more = false To supplement this, you'll want to Ctrl-P more often during dangerous combat to see who is doing what, where you are taking damage from, etc. You can specify things that always get a "more" message, even with show_more off: force_more_message += shining eye comes into view force_more_message += Mara comes into view force_more_message += Mennas comes into view force_more_message += orb of fire comes into view force_more_message += ancient lich comes into view force_more_message += caustic shrike comes into view force_more_message += juggernaut comes into view force_more_message += calcifying dust hits you are some of the basic things that are important to notice. ClothHat posted:What's the problem here? That's an Oka gift. An ego-less hat is pretty the worst gift from him. e: I'm working on cleaning up and simplifying the crap out of my rcfile, and will share it here when done. lizardhunt fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Nov 27, 2016 |
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E Equals MC Hammer posted:Door/stairs got locked on me with boris and mara in the room. Use Sanctuary, read Teleportation and marvel as everything is unable to touch you while your tele goes off.
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# ? Nov 27, 2016 22:55 |
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So I'm running a stabber of Hep for my YT videos and I just realized I have no idea whether transference wakes up the target. I assume so but it'd be super dope if it didn't because it could be basicially a reverse shadow step. Anyone know one way or the other?
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# ? Nov 27, 2016 23:01 |
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SirSamVimes posted:Use Sanctuary, read Teleportation and marvel as everything is unable to touch you while your tele goes off. Sanctuary+tele is what got me into the doom room.
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# ? Nov 27, 2016 23:24 |
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hito posted:So I'm running a stabber of Hep for my YT videos and I just realized I have no idea whether transference wakes up the target. I assume so but it'd be super dope if it didn't because it could be basicially a reverse shadow step. Anyone know one way or the other? It does, though it doesn't alert them to your presence automatically. (They just start wandering.)
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# ? Nov 27, 2016 23:26 |
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jerkstoresup posted:That's an Oka gift. An ego-less hat is pretty the worst gift from him.
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# ? Nov 28, 2016 00:08 |
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Re: casting in plate. Don't bother. Get a good triple crossbow and win the game with that instead
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# ? Nov 28, 2016 01:59 |
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Well, it also depends on the character. Being able to cast in plate is a perk of worshiping Chei or being a Demigod. But yeah, I agree in general that xbows/evocables are a better complement to melee unless you have a huge amount of both STR and INT.
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# ? Nov 28, 2016 02:18 |
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tote up a bags posted:Re: casting in plate. Don't bother. Get a good triple crossbow and win the game with that instead It can actually be worthwhile without being a demigod or worshipping Cheibriados though also speaking from experience, it's more likely to make you splat. Edit: Oh, Minotaur? Yeah, don't bother. Totally worth bothering if it's Portal Projectile to go with that Triple Crossbow. I -just- ascended a Naga Warper of Okawaru - the chain mail was a better match, but I could have cast some of my level 2/3 spells in crystal plate with wizardry. Much much easier with a good randart chainmail or highly enchanted storm or shadow scales, not even mentioning lower encumbrance armors like swamp/fire/ice scales. Of course, the only way this character survived midgame was rampant abuse of heroism - I'd spread myself a bit too thin, but not irredeemably so. Going to +10 ponderous plate (i was a naga with lightning scales, so just as slow as always) was my way of salvaging my character while I put it all into Crossbows for sufficient killdudes. I had the book of warp, but not enough potential to use it properly. https://crawl.jorgrun.rocks/morgue/LordSloth/morgue-LordSloth-20161128-045201.txt pre:Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19.1 (webtiles) character file. 2929972 LordSloth the Sniper (level 27, 261/267 HPs) Began as a Naga Warper on Nov 25, 2016. Was a High Priest of Okawaru. Escaped with the Orb ... and 6 runes on Nov 28, 2016! The game lasted 11:33:22 (128434 turns). LordSloth the Sniper (Naga Warper) Turns: 128434, Time: 11:33:23 Health: 261/267 AC: 48 Str: 22 XL: 27 Magic: 9/42 EV: 7 Int: 21 (24) God: Okawaru [*****.] Gold: 7256 SH: 4 Dex: 14 Spells: 14 memorised, 1 level left rFire + + + SeeInvis + b - +2 triple crossbow "Afrub" {speed, +Fly rPois rF++} rCold + . . Gourm . p - +10 chain mail "Fuacrink" {rF++ Dex+3} rNeg + . . Faith . (shield currently unavailable) rPois + Spirit . Q - -2 hat of the Alchemist {rElec rPois rF+ rC+ rN+ MR+ rMut rCorr} rElec + Reflect . y - +2 cloak {MR+} rCorr + Harm . J - +2 pair of gloves {archery} rMut + m - +6 lightning scales {run, rElec} MR +++++ j - amulet of magic regeneration Stlth +......... v - ring of Hiurgha {rF- Int+6 Slay+6} w - ring of wizardry A: claws 1, large bone plates 1, slimy green scales 1, see invisible, deformed body, poison resistance, slowness 2, slow metabolism 1, spit poison 2, constrict 1, AC +9 a: Breathe Poison Gas, Heroism, Finesse, Renounce Religion, Evoke Flight 0: Orb of Zot }: 6/15 runes: serpentine, barnacled, slimy, silver, obsidian, abyssal Inventory: Hand Weapons a - a +9 glaive of chopping b - the +2 triple crossbow "Afrub" (weapon) {speed, +Fly rPois rF++} Y - the +7 sceptre of Asmodeus Missiles T - 1761 bolts (quivered) Armour m - the +6 lightning scales (worn) {run, rElec} (You found it on level 3 of the Shoals) p - the +10 chain mail "Fuacrink" (worn) {rF++ Dex+3} (You found it on level 4 of the Depths) y - a +2 cloak of magic resistance (worn) J - a +2 pair of gloves of archery (worn) Q - the -2 hat of the Alchemist (worn) {rElec rPois rF+ rC+ rN+ MR+ rMut rCorr} (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines) Jewellery h - the amulet of Raaniom {Gourm +Fly MR+ Str-4} j - an amulet of magic regeneration (around neck) q - the ring of Iganiaro {*Slow MR+ EV+6 SInv} u - the ring "Seanofam" {*Tele rPois rN+} v - the ring of Hiurgha (right hand) {rF- Int+6 Slay+6} w - a ring of wizardry (left hand) L - the amulet "Daxiaq" {*Slow +Rage rPois MR+ Slay+5} (You acquired it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts) P - the amulet of Kexeng {RegenMP -Tele rC+ rN+++ SInv} Z - an uncursed ring of positive energy Wands s - a wand of hasting (7/9) C - a wand of teleportation (7/9) G - a wand of teleportation (7/9) M - a wand of digging (12/24) W - a wand of heal wounds (8/9) Miscellaneous r - 2 phantom mirrors R - the horn of Geryon Skills: - Level 19.6 Fighting - Level 20.0 Polearms - Level 26.2 Crossbows - Level 0.8 Throwing - Level 15.2 Armour - Level 6.1 Dodging - Level 20.0 Stealth Level 2.7 Shields - Level 15.0 Spellcasting - Level 7.0 Charms - Level 11.2 Summonings - Level 7.6 Necromancy - Level 24.7 Translocations Level 3.0 Transmutations - Level 3.0 Air Magic Level 3.1 Earth Magic - Level 10.0 Invocations + Level 15.8 Evocations You knew the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Apportation Tloc #######... 0% 1 None b - Summon Forest Summ/Tloc ######.... 1% 5 ###.... c - Controlled Blink Tloc N/A 4% 8 ####### d - Dispersal Tloc #######... 1% 6 #####.. f - Portal Projectile Tloc ###### 0% 3 None g - Summon Butterflies Summ ######.. 1% 1 None i - Swiftness Chrm/Air #####... 1% 2 None j - Disjunction Tloc #######... 4% 8 ####### k - Malign Gateway Summ/Tloc ######.... 4% 7 ######. r - Regeneration Chrm/Necr #####..... 1% 3 None s - Lesser Beckoning Tloc #######... 0% 3 None v - Passage of Golubria Tloc N/A 0% 4 None w - Repel Missiles Chrm/Air #####. 1% 2 None z - Blink Tloc N/A 0% 2 None
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# ? Nov 28, 2016 07:15 |
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You were a Naga. Naga are large.
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# ? Nov 28, 2016 07:59 |
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Species size doesn't affect your armour encumbrance. IIRC it only affects your ev modifier, constriction, shallow water penalties, weapon restrictions and shield breakpoints. e: Apparently it also affects shafting chance and trample chance. Naga do have decent stats though, 22/18 base str and int is pretty good. You don't need to be a Chei worshipper to have good stats, especially if you're willing to let one of the three rot. Darox fucked around with this message at 12:08 on Nov 28, 2016 |
# ? Nov 28, 2016 12:06 |
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+8 Vampiric demon whip. If only I wasn't rolling with TSO.
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# ? Nov 28, 2016 13:31 |
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Looks like a +8 Sacred Scourge to me
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# ? Nov 28, 2016 15:17 |
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I could throw scroll brands at it until it is electric, maybe.
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# ? Nov 28, 2016 16:33 |
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E Equals MC Hammer posted:I could throw scroll brands at it until it is electric, maybe. TSO won't like it no matter the brand, for being a demon whip. Just use your 6* power to bless it into a Scourge which will be very good against all enemies and completely bonkers against demons/undead.
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# ? Nov 28, 2016 16:40 |
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Tragic. Okie dokie then.
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# ? Nov 28, 2016 16:51 |
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I did it. Formicid Fighter of Oka, 15 runes, all pan and hell lords dead. I even got to see and slaughter the zin/TSO themed pan level. Tomb is the worst place in the world and as I said earlier I made it so much more difficult by forgetting to bring along the right consumables.
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# ? Nov 28, 2016 20:13 |
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Is there a situation where amulet of the gourmand is useful? If not it would be fun if they added something.
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# ? Nov 28, 2016 20:36 |
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it can be nice for heavy-hunger characters, like certain spellcasters. not hugely important (especially with the chunk-eating changes in 0.19), but nice.
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# ? Nov 28, 2016 20:47 |
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aphid_licker posted:Is there a situation where amulet of the gourmand is useful? If not it would be fun if they added something. It lets you use higher level spells or rods with abandon without a staff of energy early on because it's a lot easier to top back up on food.
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# ? Nov 28, 2016 20:47 |
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Yeah, gourmand is not an endgame amulet, but for a spellcaster, it's a great stopgap on spell hunger issues.
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# ? Nov 28, 2016 20:49 |
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Got shafted on Orc 1 right into the finale of Orc 2. At least they were so dense around me that the fear scroll got most of them for long enough to teleport to kick in ed: Ahahaha minotaur dropped an artifact hand crossbow and nothing else of value, so I equip-ID'd it and it's +10 {elec, Dex +4, fragile}. I hate this game sometimes. mormonpartyboat fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Nov 28, 2016 |
# ? Nov 28, 2016 21:34 |
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Highlight was killing Menkaure on the orb run. Also, deep dwarves are weird. I don't think I'll play one again.
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# ? Nov 28, 2016 21:43 |
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Why is this game so ... full of choices How should I be thinking of a heavy armor mibe and riposte ? Ignore evasion ? Get it to 10?
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# ? Nov 29, 2016 01:29 |
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Broadly speaking you should level dodging as much as you normally would, which is... probably at least 10? But get more fighting/armor.
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# ? Nov 29, 2016 01:33 |
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Normally for melee, especially MiBe, I train weapon to mindelay, then Fighting until I'm comfortable with my HP, then Dodging and/or Armor. Or I get greedy and only train my weapon to 1.0 delay, and jump into defenses early (though that's mostly with Formicids so I can get Shields to 9).
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# ? Nov 29, 2016 04:07 |
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Poison Mushroom posted:Normally for melee, especially MiBe, I train weapon to mindelay, then Fighting until I'm comfortable with my HP, then Dodging and/or Armor. Yeah that makes sense but the offense / defense of evasion is breaking my brain With long swords
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# ? Nov 29, 2016 04:08 |
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Thanks for the robe of misfortune, Oka.
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# ? Nov 29, 2016 06:06 |
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Honestly with any berserker you can just turn fighting/armour/dodging on and focus your weapon skill at the start then leave it like that for the entire game and do fine.euphronius posted:Yeah that makes sense but the offense / defense of evasion is breaking my brain OTOH Dodging skill is always useful and a MiBe has a glut of xp since you don't need any invo/stealth/casting, so get some even if you're wearing heavy armour. Looking at the blue skill cost numbers can help you balance things out.
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# ? Nov 29, 2016 13:20 |