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Punk da Bundo
Dec 29, 2006

by FactsAreUseless

Ace of Baes posted:

The DNC was in Hillarys corner despite her obvious flaws because they were all positioning themselves for positions in a Clinton administration that they were positive was coming.

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etalian
Mar 20, 2006


Hillary set them up, another great Abuela failure.

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot
I legit feel really bad for Huma, been a rough couple of years.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
Here is the discord link for anyone who wants to join the podcast.

Optimus_Rhyme
Apr 15, 2007

are you that mainframe hacker guy?

I like the part of the campaign where hillary and her cnn people claimed they were raising more money for down ballet races and welp, lost almost all levels of governments from the state up.

So, we're they lying about the fund helping down ballet or what happened? Cause I remember this being a bernie issue.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:

I legit feel really bad for Huma, been a rough couple of years.

Surprised she even went out in public like that for a few days straight.

Would be better off staying at home and watching Netflix.

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

Optimus_Rhyme posted:

I like the part of the campaign where hillary and her cnn people claimed they were raising more money for down ballet races and welp, lost almost all levels of governments from the state up.

So, we're they lying about the fund helping down ballet or what happened? Cause I remember this being a bernie issue.

For real what happened to that Downballot stuff? I'm aware of the key failures in the rust belt states, but the dems got fuckin' obliterated on a ton of levels and I don't know what happened to that big ol' downballot fund.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

For the down ballot victory fund only a small percentage went to tickets despite what hill folk claim.

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot
Presidential turnout affects downticket turnout too. You can spend 1.3 billion dollars, but you have to be a good candidate generally to get your people to turn out to vote for you, and thus downtickets

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:

Presidential turnout affects downticket turnout too. You can spend 1.3 billion dollars, but you have to be a good candidate generally to get your people to turn out to vote for you, and thus downtickets

For Michigan dems got more downticket votes than GE support.

No wonder why Hillary lost the state.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

Optimus_Rhyme posted:

I like the part of the campaign where hillary and her cnn people claimed they were raising more money for down ballet races and welp, lost almost all levels of governments from the state up.

So, we're they lying about the fund helping down ballet or what happened? Cause I remember this being a bernie issue.

Grondoth posted:

For real what happened to that Downballot stuff? I'm aware of the key failures in the rust belt states, but the dems got fuckin' obliterated on a ton of levels and I don't know what happened to that big ol' downballot fund.

They lied.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
My favorite post-election "analysis" is that Hillarys abysmal turnout was unrelated to downticket because "more people voted for Hillary in (state) than (downticket dem)".

etalian
Mar 20, 2006


Yup HIllary and the DNC starved down ticket support to fuel her campaign warchest


quote:

But during the three-month period when the DNC was working to spin the situation, state parties kept less than one half of one percent of the $82 million raised through the arrangement — validating concerns raised by campaign finance watchdogs, state party allies and Bernie Sanders supporters.

State parties got less .5% rest of the money went to Hillary even though the ad campaign said the money was to help elect dems in the downticket races.

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

examples of Obama men melting down? I know that wing of the party is all neoliberal stooges but I always more strongly identified that bullshit centrist Third Wayism with Clinton so it's weird to me that his wing of the party is having more trouble with this turn left than hers is

It's probably more "why struggle" attitude from her group. They lost, bad. Why would anyone listen to their ideas? Better to try to weather the storm and at least stay in the party.

nachos
Jun 27, 2004

Wario Chalmers! WAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

The GOP was right all along

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
NOTHINGBURGER

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

nachos posted:

The GOP was right all along

Many Hillary supporters claimed this victory fund was sincerely intended to help down tickets, even though actual evidence shows almost none of the fundraising went to help down ticket races.

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
hillaried-up trickle-down electioneering

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

How strange that Hillary is now avoiding the public eye and not even trying to organize any sort of resistance to Trump.

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
SHAVE ME FROM MY SHELF

etalian posted:

How strange that Hillary is now avoiding the public eye and not even trying to organize any sort of resistance to Trump.

She's not exactly a cause celebré at the moment.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

RiotGearEpsilon posted:

She's not exactly a cause celebré at the moment.

Bernie lost but is still trying to rally the troops to find a better direction for the democratic party.

It's probably because he has much more inner strength than Hillary due to having many lost elections early in his political career before being to elected as the mayor of Burlington.

Hillary by contrast was only able to advance through her vast network of political connectors into her softball senate seat.

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

that man behind her has some hosed up proportions

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy
Listening to Chapo, seriously these guys are awesome.

Spoondick
Jun 9, 2000


how huma liating

Wyld Thang
Feb 23, 2016

logikv9 posted:

I think I might start hitting for its her turn meme because it seems like just skirting the line on dem primary salt while also providing nothing of substance it of itself

hillary 2020: third time's a charm

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

etalian posted:

Surprised she even went out in public like that for a few days straight.

Would be better off staying at home and watching Netflix.

yeah she should check out this documentary, weiner

Fidel Cuckstro
Jul 2, 2007

There should probably be separate threads for leftist dems to discuss the path forward (party positions, integrating socialism in to the platform, messaging) and another for more centrist dems to discuss their plans (arguing with Trump's twitter account, being angry at Russia).

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Fidel Cuckstro posted:

There should probably be separate threads for leftist dems to talk about bernie sanders, and another for more centrist dems to discuss their plans (arguing with Trump's twitter account, being angry at Russia).

UHD
Nov 11, 2006


so uh why is keith ellison the new hot poo poo? idgi

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

there should be a thread for every specific version of left

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



UHD posted:

so uh why is keith ellison the new hot poo poo? idgi

because keith ellison is the black muslim that barack obama wishes he was

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

UHD posted:

so uh why is keith ellison the new hot poo poo? idgi

Because the current bad dem leadership failed miserably, progressives should take over the leadership and messaging for the party.

Spoondick
Jun 9, 2000

Fidel Cuckstro posted:

There should probably be separate threads for leftist dems to discuss the path forward (party positions, integrating socialism in to the platform, messaging) and another for more centrist dems to discuss their plans (arguing with Trump's twitter account, being angry at Russia).

good idea, people that identify with certain politics should segregate themselves and become estranged from each-other's experiences because that just worked amazingly well

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

UHD posted:

so uh why is keith ellison the new hot poo poo? idgi

Listen to this, then get back to us.

https://theringer.com/keepin-it-1600-keith-ellison-dnc-8dd365bd5739

Crowsbeak has issued a correction as of 01:48 on Nov 28, 2016

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot
Maybe we can get a separate thread only for the person saying we shouldn't do anything different

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

UHD posted:

so uh why is keith ellison the new hot poo poo? idgi

No one knows enough about him yet so he hasn't failed the internet socialist purity test.

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

zegermans posted:

No one knows enough about him yet so he hasn't failed the internet socialist purity test.

b-b-but he defended Louis Farrakhan!!1 :qq:

UHD
Nov 11, 2006


zegermans posted:

No one knows enough about him yet so he hasn't failed the internet socialist purity test.

yeah I get the feeling it's this but whatever, can't be worse than anyone else

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe

Crowsbeak posted:

Listen to this, then get back to us.

Listen to this, then get back to us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG8gZnTuYlY

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Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

UHD posted:

so uh why is keith ellison the new hot poo poo? idgi

personally blessed by saint bernard (pbuh) to lead the dnc out of the wilderness of centrist policy and into the promised land of actually winning elections.

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