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If we're going to be repealing laws because they're old, can we repeal the 2nd amendment already.
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Lightning Knight posted:Of course cravius is making a "racism ended in the '60s, why do we still need the VRA?" argument, he iirc also was the guy who said we should get rid of birthright citizenship. Gee, this is totally a person who understands what institutional racism is and is arguing in good faith, guys. That's like 2 out of 3 for the internet white rights platform, along with a repeal of hart cellar
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Nov 28, 2016 01:46
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In a world where the 14th Amendment is repealed, how does on even get citizenship? Melanin removal therapy?
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Nov 28, 2016 01:54
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Farchanter posted:In a world where the 14th Amendment is repealed, how does on even get citizenship? Melanin removal therapy? Best case scenario is it ends up like Japan's system. Worst case they actually create legal systems to have formal second class citizenship for non-white peoples, i.e. exactly what the 14th was meant to prevent in the first place.
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Nov 28, 2016 02:01
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Farchanter posted:In a world where the 14th Amendment is repealed, how does on even get citizenship? Melanin removal therapy? Service Guarantees Citizenship
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Nov 28, 2016 02:04
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Farchanter posted:In a world where the 14th Amendment is repealed, how does on even get citizenship? Melanin removal therapy? From blood, which means I'm going to have nonwhite babies just to spite them, preferrably with a white woman
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Nov 28, 2016 02:06
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Furnaceface posted:Service Guarantees Citizenship DREAM Act, but with military service instead of education. And no citizenship either.
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Nov 28, 2016 02:10
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Peven Stan posted:From blood, which means I'm going to have nonwhite babies just to spite them, preferrably with a white woman Good luck getting around the anti-miscegenation laws.
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Nov 28, 2016 02:10
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HannibalBarca posted:Good luck getting around the anti-miscegenation laws. White supremacists are obsessed with asian women. Any law like that would restrict a white man's freedom to choose
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Nov 28, 2016 02:21
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Lightning Knight posted:Best case scenario is it ends up like Japan's system. I've been thinking that maybe we should start revising the census forms to begin divide White up into White, Irish-descendant, Italian-descendant, German-descendant, Other European-descended just to give a preview of the future.
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Nov 28, 2016 02:30
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Ego-bot posted:lol Yeah we Iowans can brag about having one of, if not the, most openly racist representatives. Peven Stan posted:White supremacists are obsessed with asian women. Any law like that would restrict a white man's freedom to choose At least until they realize they're not all meek and submissive like in their favorite animes.
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Nov 28, 2016 02:34
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cravius posted:Yeah that's one implication you can draw I guess. But that's a lot different from "explicitly limiting the ability of black people to vote." Cause that didn't happen.
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Nov 28, 2016 02:37
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Peven Stan posted:White supremacists are obsessed with asian women. Any law like that would restrict a white man's freedom to choose You don't know much about how anti-miscegenation laws work in practice, do you?
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Nov 28, 2016 02:50
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Fame Douglas posted:Requiring some form of ID doesn't seem like the most onerous of requirements. And as soon as you accept that premise and stop paying attention, they turn around and make it onerous. Sorry folks, just closed half the DMV offices in poor or black neighborhoods and slashed hours at the rest! Budget cuts, y'know. No, the office in Whitey McRichville is still open sixty hours a week, why do you ask? Shimrra Jamaane posted:Voting ID laws keep getting struck down by courts and were getting struck down when Scalia was still on the bench but I guess the Republicans have entered a cheat code and now all laws and rules are forfeit forever. Trump is going to get to appoint two Supreme Court justices. At least.
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Nov 28, 2016 03:02
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Sounds like a good excuse to appoint as many young people to the bench as they can when the dems get a turn.
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Nov 28, 2016 03:20
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Azuth0667 posted:Sounds like a good excuse to appoint as many young people to the bench as they can when the dems get a turn. Actually when the dems retake power if the Republicans try to use the courts to prevent any changes I say its time for the dems to begin pack the judiciary.
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Nov 28, 2016 03:32
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Peven Stan posted:White supremacists are obsessed with asian women. Any law like that would restrict a white man's freedom to choose cravius posted:Yeah that's one implication you can draw I guess. But that's a lot different from "explicitly limiting the ability of black people to vote." Cause that didn't happen.
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Nov 28, 2016 04:05
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Azuth0667 posted:Sounds like a good excuse to appoint as many young people to the bench as they can when the dems get a turn. Didn't we nuke the filibuster for non-SCOTUS court appointments to do exactly that when we still held the senate?
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Nov 28, 2016 04:07
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Republicans posted:Didn't we nuke the filibuster for non-SCOTUS court appointments to do exactly that when we still held the senate? I don't think so. My understand was the Ted Cruz hosed up big and dems got to appoint a bunch of judges.
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Nov 28, 2016 04:12
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cheese posted:Hyper sexual AND submissive, just like in my animes? What is not to like!?
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Nov 28, 2016 04:14
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Azuth0667 posted:I don't think so. My understand was the Ted Cruz hosed up big and dems got to appoint a bunch of judges. Those were mostly various executive positions like surgeon general that the republicans had been blocking confirmation on because they're shitheads. The fact that the republicans are time and time again rewarded for refusing all but the most necessary governance (and even then often at the last possible minute) is the one thing above all else that seriously makes me want to loving hurt someone.
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Nov 28, 2016 04:31
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citybeatnik posted:Or trolling. It's this one. Every couple days Cravius swings by, spouts off a couple low effort Republican talking points then stops posting for a while. This time his method of choice is "racism doesn't exist unless it's actively wearing a white hood and burning a cross". 
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Nov 28, 2016 04:47
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Republicans posted:Those were mostly various executive positions like surgeon general that the republicans had been blocking confirmation on because they're shitheads. From my perspective the dems are fighting with sticks and rocks while the republicans have just figured out muskets. The dems need to step up their game and learn from the bullshit that has been dealt to them.
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Nov 28, 2016 04:55
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cheese posted:Hyper sexual AND submissive, just like in my animes? What is not to like!? I don't know what animes you're watching, but I'm pretty sure most asian women are actually pure-hearted tsunderes
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Nov 28, 2016 05:05
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Azuth0667 posted:From my perspective the dems are fighting with sticks and rocks while the republicans have just figured out muskets. The dems need to step up their game and learn from the bullshit that has been dealt to them. It all boils down to whether or not democrats can stomach hurting the country for political gain on the scale republicans have. All republicans need to do is form a "gang of 18" or whatever with nine democrats who are willing to break the filibuster
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Nov 28, 2016 05:07
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Captain Oblivious posted:It's this one. Every couple days Cravius swings by, spouts off a couple low effort Republican talking points then stops posting for a while. This time his method of choice is "racism doesn't exist unless it's actively wearing a white hood and burning a cross". To be fair, that's a legitimate claim from a friend of mine. But then she finds Milo funny because he gets liberals worked up enough to cry so there is that. But this is the same woman that claims that being pro-choice is anti-feminist. Situations like that just makes me go "yeah no not worth it".
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Nov 28, 2016 05:07
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citybeatnik posted:To be fair, that's a legitimate claim from a friend of mine. But then she finds Milo funny because he gets liberals worked up enough to cry so there is that.
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Nov 28, 2016 05:10
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citybeatnik posted:To be fair, that's a legitimate claim from a friend of mine. But then she finds Milo funny because he gets liberals worked up enough to cry so there is that. Oh for sure. There are people legitimately that stupid. Cravius' posting patterns though suggests he's simply trolling.
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Nov 28, 2016 05:11
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:i used to wonder about how about how some of these people manage to have friends but it turns out that they're normal people that somehow have a jekyll/hyde mental shift whenever anything political is mentioned It's perfectly fine to have relationships with friends without involving political beliefs at all.
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Nov 28, 2016 05:14
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Mustached Demon posted:It's perfectly fine to have relationships with friends without involving political beliefs at all.
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Nov 28, 2016 05:16
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Captain Oblivious posted:Oh for sure. There are people legitimately that stupid. Cravius' posting patterns though suggests he's simply trolling. Anime Schoolgirl posted:i used to wonder about how about how some of these people manage to have friends but it turns out that they're normal people that somehow have a jekyll/hyde mental shift whenever anything political is mentioned She can be good people. She just went to Smith and came out a hard core republican. There's just enough overlap for there to be some interesting conversations where we both realize that we're not going to convince the other.
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Nov 28, 2016 05:16
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Republicans posted:It all boils down to whether or not democrats can stomach hurting the country for political gain on the scale republicans have. All republicans need to do is form a "gang of 18" or whatever with nine democrats who are willing to break the filibuster Passing legislation in exchange for favors elsewhere is a really important aspect of governing actually. The fact that it forces compromise is one of the US government's most ingenious aspects IMO.
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Nov 28, 2016 05:19
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:that's what i was getting at, yes Sorry it often seems like posters in this thread base their identity on political belief and refuse interaction with others who believe differently.
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Nov 28, 2016 05:21
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Fojar38 posted:Passing legislation in exchange for favors elsewhere is a really important aspect of governing actually. The fact that it forces compromise is one of the US government's most ingenious aspects IMO. It isn't really compromise in a helpful sense if the terms are "help us pass whatever we want and we'll give your state a bunch of money."
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Nov 28, 2016 05:27
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Captain Oblivious posted:Oh for sure. There are people legitimately that stupid. Cravius' posting patterns though suggests he's simply trolling. How DARE you assume my gender identity
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Nov 28, 2016 05:27
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HannibalBarca posted:You don't know much about how anti-miscegenation laws work in practice, do you? Social pressure has worked more to keep interracial marriage off the table for the vast majority of white people. Despite all the whining about white genocide only 4% of white men and 2% of white women intermarry. Putting a law in place serves no purpose society and media don't already reinforce and makes them look like dickheads.
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Mustached Demon posted:Sorry it often seems like posters in this thread base their identity on political belief and refuse interaction with others who believe differently. OTOH, its hard to be friends with people that want to discriminate against your LGBT/Muslim/Poor/black/women loved ones and family members.
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Nov 28, 2016 05:28
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Fojar38 posted:Passing legislation in exchange for favors elsewhere is a really important aspect of governing actually. The fact that it forces compromise is one of the US government's most ingenious aspects IMO. Republicans posted:It isn't really compromise in a helpful sense if the terms are "help us pass whatever we want and we'll give your state a bunch of money." Bring back earmarks. I'll gladly take $0.000001 of my tax dollars going towards funding some bridge in fuckoff nowhere if it means that there'll actually be some sort of compromise on the House floor.
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Nov 28, 2016 05:29
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cravius posted:How DARE you assume my gender identity Like so.
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Republicans posted:It isn't really compromise in a helpful sense if the terms are "help us pass whatever we want and we'll give your state a bunch of money." Trades a better word I think. Compromise would be settling on a 15% tax rate on large, purple dildos when one party wants 10% and the other wants 20%.
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