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On Terra Firma posted:So do any news outlets answer for why they do poo poo like this? Has anyone gotten them in a room and gone "What in the gently caress are you doing"? Trump did, but not in the way you or I would like.
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On Terra Firma posted:So do any news outlets answer for why they do poo poo like this? Has anyone gotten them in a room and gone "What in the gently caress are you doing"? Well Donald got them in a room last week for a talking to...
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Azuth0667 posted:Sure it will one of the lessons to be learned from the Trump win is that if you say something enough and loud enough people will believe it. That's not going to change until you get control of government and fix education. Ah, yes, the lesson from the Trump win is that if you demonize your opponent for their far right positions and intransigence Republicans will totally cross the line and vote for Democrats.
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On Terra Firma posted:So do any news outlets answer for why they do poo poo like this? Has anyone gotten them in a room and gone "What in the gently caress are you doing"?
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Azuth0667 posted:Sure it will one of the lessons to be learned from the Trump win is that if you say something enough and loud enough people will believe it. That's not going to change until you get control of government and fix education. Not even education as we currently address it. We need some info-lit critical thinking NCLB for older people, since we've got a tremendous information illiteracy problem. Mass media's going to do an awful and heel-dragging job of improving itself, if it even does get better. Not much value to a democracy when you can read Tom Clancy novels and Facebook posts, but fail to sort fact from fiction and signal from noise when it comes to news.
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haveblue posted:So what happens to that electoral vote now? I assume there's some procedure to appoint a backup elector so this was a purely symbolic/conscience move. According to the Star-Telegram article on Texas electors that includes the challenges Sisneros was facing, resigning electors will be replaced when the state Republican party meets on December 1st-2nd. It's a pure conscience move. Edit: Turns out the Ohio State "active shooter" just ran over and knifed people. Young Freud fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Nov 28, 2016 |
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Ah, he can't faithless elect because he signed a pledge. So, he said "yolo, not living with this on my head: didn't think he'd win so I was willing to sign. Now, lol. gently caress off, bitches. This country is ruined."
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On Terra Firma posted:So do any news outlets answer for why they do poo poo like this? Has anyone gotten them in a room and gone "What in the gently caress are you doing"?
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joepinetree posted:Ah, yes, the lesson from the Trump win is that if you demonize your opponent for their far right positions and intransigence Republicans will totally cross the line and vote for Democrats. Some will, you'll also give your base something to rally against and someone to put the blame of their troubles on. This stupid head in the sand poo poo that keeps floating around or "we go high when they go low" has been demonstrated to not work. Take a look at the election results as proof. It's time for the dems to switch it up if they want to win and fix it so it doesn't have to be like that. sweart gliwere posted:Not even education as we currently address it. We need some info-lit critical thinking NCLB for older people, since we've got a tremendous information illiteracy problem. Mass media's going to do an awful and heel-dragging job of improving itself, if it even does get better. I agree but, I think its akin to learning any skill. People need a broad foundation early in life to build upon hence start with education reform and free adult info-literacy classes. That way the new generation comes into adulthood with the skills and the older generation can be coaxed out of the crap. There isn't much that can be done about it though if dems never get back in power because they refuse to even try to beat the false-news garbage spewing out of every media outlet.
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Covok posted:Ah, he can't faithless elect because he signed a pledge. So, he said "yolo, not living with this on my head: didn't think he'd win so I was willing to sign. Now, lol. gently caress off, bitches. This country is ruined." Dude didn't even bother waiting until the weekend. If he did, there's a good chance his seat would have been vacant on Dec. 19th.
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Bhaal posted:Well they know what they are doing. Some within that group disagree with it on the same grounds we do but when you uncover a story of a presidential candidate violating the cuban embargo it hardly circulates in comparison to a headline like that. And on top of it you also spent way more time and effort to get that story compared to doing book report journalism about things Trump said. You either embrace the symbiotic relationship, get out of the industry, or be part of a smaller and smaller group that try to scratch a living practicing actual journalism. So, money and attention > journalistic integrity for them. Hooray.
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Young Freud posted:Dude didn't even bother waiting until the weekend. If he did, there's a good chance his seat would have been vacant on Dec. 19th. Ah, so he just wants to make the appearance of backing out in-case Trump turns out to be good? Typical, gutless republican filth.
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DoctorWhat posted:Jesus loving christ, you're dense. The GOP deliberately hamstrung the government in order to undermine Obama's presidency. Please stop responding to blatantly obvious trolling. Put him on ignore and move on.
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"This pledge I signed is far more important to honor than the integrity of our nation." - a patriot
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FactsAreUseless posted:Who would hold them accountable? The vast majority of Americans don't know anything about good journalism. And why would they? It takes time and education. Education won't change things
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Chris Hedges predicts the state will dismantle even the pretense of democratic republican government by exploiting a crisis analogous to the Reichstag burning.
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This faithless elector thing is another bit of B.S. just like the recount. We aren't going to get enough faithless electors to sway the vote. Why? Because it just doesn't happen. This year will end with a Trump Presidency. There is nothing changing this. I know everyone has already accepted it, but I need to say it to myself every so often so I don't start to think I'm in a fever dream or died and went to hell.
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Jitzu_the_Monk posted:Chris Hedges predicts the state will dismantle even the pretense of democratic republican government by exploiting a crisis analogous to the Reichstag burning. God I hope not.
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Covok posted:Ah, so he just wants to make the appearance of backing out in-case Trump turns out to be good? No. He wants a Republican led government but wants a clear conscience for everything they do. It's stupid because anyone who has spent the past few decades supporting the GOP is responsible for the intentionally broken government and post-fact vitriol that resulted in a Trump presidency.
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Azuth0667 posted:Some will, you'll also give your base something to rally against and someone to put the blame of their troubles on. This stupid head in the sand poo poo that keeps floating around or "we go high when they go low" has been demonstrated to not work. Take a look at the election results as proof. It's time for the dems to switch it up if they want to win and fix it so it doesn't have to be like that. Hey, I know Sheldon Anderson is threatening to spend 2 million dollars to defeat you in your R+10 district if you don't go full tea party, but we will say some really nasty things about you if you don't compromise.
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size1one posted:No. He wants a Republican led government but wants a clear conscience for everything they do. It's stupid because anyone who has spent the past few decades supporting the GOP is responsible for the intentionally broken government and post-fact vitriol that resulted in a Trump presidency.
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size1one posted:No. He wants a Republican led government but wants a clear conscience for everything they do. It's stupid because anyone who has spent the past few decades supporting the GOP is responsible for the intentionally broken government and post-fact vitriol that resulted in a Trump presidency. The GOP are filth.
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Covok posted:This faithless elector thing is another bit of B.S. just like the recount. We aren't going to get enough faithless electors to sway the vote. Why? Because it just doesn't happen. This year will end with a Trump Presidency. There is nothing changing this.
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Jitzu_the_Monk posted:Chris Hedges predicts the state will dismantle even the pretense of democratic republican government by exploiting a crisis analogous to the Reichstag burning. People said the same thing during the Bush administration. Different people said the same thin during the Obama administration
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Boon posted:Yes this is an opinion of a man who clearly deserves to be taken seriously. Funny, I thought the opinion of the poster who thought the illegal, endless, and expanding drone wars in nearly 20 countries "is actually a good thing" was truly vile. My bad.
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Three weeks out, what has the Democratic Party learned? https://twitter.com/deep_beige/status/803301224560750592
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On Terra Firma posted:So do any news outlets answer for why they do poo poo like this? Has anyone gotten them in a room and gone "What in the gently caress are you doing"? Go listen to Bob Garfield's interview with Jake Tapper. That's the closest you're going to get: http://www.wnyc.org/story/how-interview-donald-trump/ quote:BOB GARFIELD: Is there not an argument - I'm certainly making it - for a change in the rules of engagement? I feel, and I've said this before, like watching the UN peacekeepers try to deal with the Bosnian Serbs. All they can do is watch as bad things happen. And when you're facing a demagogue, shouldn't you be able to fire back?
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Coheed and Camembert posted:Three weeks out, what has the Democratic Party learned? On the one hand, it's disappointing that the Democratic party hasn't made any sort of deal out of the LA Senate race... on the other hand, that race is unwinnable barring an act of God, and the Democratic party is literally rudderless and basically just getting things ready for the next DNC chair at this point, so...
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Coheed and Camembert posted:Three weeks out, what has the Democratic Party learned? Uh weren't you guys screaming about how Clinton was throwing money at unwinnable races in AZ/TX/etc and now you want them to throw money at an unwinnable race?
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greatn posted:Huh, in direct response to Obama sending drones there this morning? Al Shabab? No, couldn't possibly be. Look I have it on good authority that drone strikes Are A Good Thing.
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Trabisnikof posted:Go listen to Bob Garfield's interview with Jake Tapper. That's the closest you're going to get: http://www.wnyc.org/story/how-interview-donald-trump/ That's a lot of words for "I'm a spineless idiot". Next time, ask to pet Trump's hair.
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Trabisnikof posted:Go listen to Bob Garfield's interview with Jake Tapper. That's the closest you're going to get: http://www.wnyc.org/story/how-interview-donald-trump/ "Why is Jake Tapper such a dick?" - John Podesta, in emails revealed through Russian Intelligence, previously Jake Tapper's pinned tweet. It was bad optics and not a good look.
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Guy Goodbody posted:People said the same thing during the Bush administration. Different people said the same thin during the Obama administration Yes, in accordance with Godwin's Law some people do accuse whoever they don't like of being Nazis. But surely you're arguing in bad faith if you're suggesting that the risk of fascism is no higher now than it was under Bush or Obama.
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