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Imperialist Dog
Oct 21, 2008

"I think you could better spend your time on finishing your editing before the deadline today."
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:backtowork:
A lot of Japanese people I met thought that anyone of Japanese descent had a genetic predisposition to speaking Japanese and were dumbfounded as to why all the Japanese-Brazilians couldn't.

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Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:
Are Japanese-Brazilians a large enough group to be even on the radar? I know (think?) there's a few Japanese-[insert country here] in South America but it's not really a thing is it?

Invisible Handjob
Apr 7, 2002

by FactsAreUseless

Outrail posted:

Are Japanese-Brazilians a large enough group to be even on the radar? I know (think?) there's a few Japanese-[insert country here] in South America but it's not really a thing is it?

japan tried to import them en masse a while back to solve their labor shortage, figuring if the japanese could accept any immigrants it would be ethnic japanese

only took a couple years before there were massive calls for their deportation, they were actually paid by the government to leave and agree to never come back

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Outrail posted:

Are Japanese-Brazilians a large enough group to be even on the radar? I know (think?) there's a few Japanese-[insert country here] in South America but it's not really a thing is it?

"The first Japanese immigrants arrived in Brazil in 1908. Brazil is home to the largest Japanese population outside Japan. According to the IBGE, as of 2009 there were approximately 1.6 million people of Japanese descent in Brazil."

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

Outrail posted:

Are Japanese-Brazilians a large enough group to be even on the radar? I know (think?) there's a few Japanese-[insert country here] in South America but it's not really a thing is it?

there's a huge number of japanese in brazil, and has been for like 100 years.
when I lived in brazil, I dated an ethic japanese girl named Solange Fukisomethingnjapanese. She was extremely hot.
Hope you enjoyed my story.

edit: oh gently caress you ^^^

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


Invisible Handjob posted:

japan tried to import them en masse a while back to solve their labor shortage, figuring if the japanese could accept any immigrants it would be ethnic japanese

only took a couple years before there were massive calls for their deportation, they were actually paid by the government to leave and agree to never come back

dude japan is so insular that people who do "unclean" jobs like funeral services or butchering are so discriminated against they became their own ethnicity, and routinely get death threats just for existing

its almost like japan wants to die out

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Invisible Handjob posted:

japan tried to import them en masse a while back to solve their labor shortage, figuring if the japanese could accept any immigrants it would be ethnic japanese

only took a couple years before there were massive calls for their deportation, they were actually paid by the government to leave and agree to never come back

Bringing in any group to try and kill wages on the labor market is going to piss people off even without any cultural differences, let alone with them

Johnny Five-Jaces
Jan 21, 2009





Hell, same

Invisible Handjob
Apr 7, 2002

by FactsAreUseless

lotta lights still on, they clearly don't mind

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all
Thanks to Japanese Brazilians we got Lyoto Machida and he once kicked Tito Ortiz in the liver. Bless that adorable man. Anything is pasta bowl!

Syllables
Jul 2, 2011

XOF XOF XOF

:fag:

Atlas Hugged posted:

Thanks to Japanese Brazilians we got Lyoto Machida and he once kicked Tito Ortiz in the liver. Bless that adorable man. Anything is pasta bowl!



looks like a caveman

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Bro Dad posted:

dude japan is so insular that people who do "unclean" jobs like criminal defense lawyer or advocates against police abuse are so discriminated against they became their own ethnicity, and routinely get death threats just for existing

its almost like japan wants to die out

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Bro Dad posted:

japan wants to die out

japan ahead of the curve yet again

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
so sad

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax

Invisible Handjob posted:

we need a concerted forums effort to figure out how to get haier on the show

he must plunge
I already get goofballs who give me good quotes:



Edit:
23 is loving ooooooooooooold. No rich guy, AKA "ideal partner" is going to want that wrinkled old grannie when she's 24.

My old housemate has been saying something like this since I first knew her when she was 23. She was on a mission to get married and knocked up by 25 or else she's be left-overs and no one would ever want her. It was part of her Yunnan hillbilly village culture that didn't quite translate to the big city. She's 25 now and I think she still has a boyfriend, but I don't ask about it much because it seems to make her depressed.

Haier fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Nov 29, 2016

Relin
Oct 6, 2002

You have been a most worthy adversary, but in every game, there are winners and there are losers. And as you know, in this game, losers get robotizicized!

Syllables posted:

looks like a caveman
most mma fighters, regardless of race, are very ape-like

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

Many Japanese pornstars I have enjoyed are Japanese-Brazilian. This is my story, thank you for listening.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?



And not uncommon. I had a student write about her dreams for a college application essay and she talked about how she'd always wanted to be a computer programmer or engineer, but her dad told her that girls can't do math and so stopped her from studying it and is forcing her to learn interior design instead.

Also had a Korean friend who actually got her engineering degree but she was the only woman at the company and not allowed to do any engineering work, just make tea and stuff, so she eventually gave up and teaches English now.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

As horrible and not ideal as things are in north america or "the west" in general holy gently caress are things better for minorities and women here compared to anywhere else in the world.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Yeah you know the legit horrors of racism and sexism in the US and then you go other places and, drat.

Like it's not even a positive about the US exactly, just that other places are so bad. Also people get into absolutes. The US has a ton of racism problems and also is one of the most racially tolerant nations in the world. These can both be true!

Sexism though, the US is definitely behind Europe and some other places.

Vesi
Jan 12, 2005

pikachu looking at?

my name is Human Thing

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011

Vesi posted:

my name is Human Thing

:vince:

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

Haier posted:

23 is loving ooooooooooooold. No rich guy, AKA "ideal partner" is going to want that wrinkled old grannie when she's 24.

My old housemate has been saying something like this since I first knew her when she was 23. She was on a mission to get married and knocked up by 25 or else she's be left-overs and no one would ever want her. It was part of her Yunnan hillbilly village culture that didn't quite translate to the big city. She's 25 now and I think she still has a boyfriend, but I don't ask about it much because it seems to make her depressed.

They're called "Christmas Cakes" because nobody wants any after the 25th.

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
Pillbug

Vesi posted:

my name is Human Thing

Mr. Fix It
Oct 26, 2000

💀ayyy💀


Quick Draw McGraw posted:

Bringing in any group to try and kill wages on the labor market is going to piss people off even without any cultural differences, let alone with them

Japan is well on its way to a serious labor shortage, so I don't think wage suppression was the goal. Magical thinking that pure Yamato blood would ensure assimilation and good workers is the most offensive thing about the whole fiasco. A few years back, they offered up a lump sum payment to any Japanese-Brazilian that would leave the country and promise to never come back.

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax

McGavin posted:

They're called "Christmas Cakes" because nobody wants any after the 25th.
That's a Japan thing and term. China is still firmly rooted in the 30+ category as being human garbage unfit for anything. The poorer/smaller towns and villages drastically lower that age since rednecks love them's a fuckin' and marryin' super early. My ex-GF from a small hillbilly town (several million people) in Anhui had two older sisters that were married and pregnant by 20, and she was the freak that didn't want to do that. She eventually got married and pregnant by 31.

The weird ones to me are the women that are 30+ that are already divorced, some with children, and who are immediately looking to get married again right this moment. They're so desperate for some reason, even though the market for divorced women is basically other divorced men (who usually don't want a divorced women either). I've turned down or been deleted by so many of these marriage hunters, and always in the most bizarre ways. It's usually like:

Her: "Hi, my name is PURPLE CLOUD. I am 35. Are you married? What is your name? What is your age? What is your job??????"
Me: "Name, age, marital status. Job."
Her: "I am divorced. Is that ok?"
Me: "No problem. Me too."
Her: "Wow. I am looking for a husband."
Her: *Sends 4 or 5 selfies to me*
Her: "What do you think??"
Me: "I am not looking to get married again right now."
Her: "Oh..."
Her: *Deletes me*

I wonder what will happen if I say "Oh, dear, you look beautiful. I am also looking to get married right now too!" I had a woman delete me a few days ago after telling me she wanted a husband and she had asked if I was interested to marry her after sending a few selfies to me. She added me on Tantan and didn't speak English. I gave her a logical list of reasons why it's not good, like the fact we don't speak the same language, we haven't met yet, I don't know her name and she doesn't know mine, we have been talking for 30 minutes, etc., etc. She gave me reasons back like we can eventually learn to communicate, she can learn my name and about me, and as long as I am willing to stay in China then I am good man for her. It was mind-boggling to her that I didn't see her thinking about it as "that's all that's needed for marriage." I decided to make her delete me by insulting China in the best way possible. I said I can't eat Chinese food, I hate it and even if I loved her so much, I could never stand to eat her food or eat outside with her. It's not true, I eat Chinese food about 6 days per week for all meals, but she didn't know that. She got angry and said I should go find someone that can eat the same food as me and it must be unbearable to talk with someone who eats Chinese food, and then she deleted me.

This happens every single week, usually more than once. It takes them about 10 minutes to bring up the marriage, and then think that's all I need to say yes or no and be 100% serious about it. I really should just say yes one day and see what happens, but I already have enough crazy people on there.

OctaviusBeaver
Apr 30, 2009

Say what now?
If Japan has such a labor shortage maybe they could try paying people more instead of paying them less and less every year for the past 10 years. Or maybe not make people stay at work for 12 hours a day until they kill themselves, shrinking the labor pool.

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion



so what if I dooo

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Haier posted:

That's a Japan thing and term. China is still firmly rooted in the 30+ category as being human garbage unfit for anything. The poorer/smaller towns and villages drastically lower that age since rednecks love them's a fuckin' and marryin' super early. My ex-GF from a small hillbilly town (several million people) in Anhui had two older sisters that were married and pregnant by 20, and she was the freak that didn't want to do that. She eventually got married and pregnant by 31.

The weird ones to me are the women that are 30+ that are already divorced, some with children, and who are immediately looking to get married again right this moment. They're so desperate for some reason, even though the market for divorced women is basically other divorced men (who usually don't want a divorced women either). I've turned down or been deleted by so many of these marriage hunters, and always in the most bizarre ways. It's usually like:

Her: "Hi, my name is PURPLE CLOUD. I am 35. Are you married? What is your name? What is your age? What is your job??????"
Me: "Name, age, marital status. Job."
Her: "I am divorced. Is that ok?"
Me: "No problem. Me too."
Her: "Wow. I am looking for a husband."
Her: *Sends 4 or 5 selfies to me*
Her: "What do you think??"
Me: "I am not looking to get married again right now."
Her: "Oh..."
Her: *Deletes me*

I wonder what will happen if I say "Oh, dear, you look beautiful. I am also looking to get married right now too!" I had a woman delete me a few days ago after telling me she wanted a husband and she had asked if I was interested to marry her after sending a few selfies to me. She added me on Tantan and didn't speak English. I gave her a logical list of reasons why it's not good, like the fact we don't speak the same language, we haven't met yet, I don't know her name and she doesn't know mine, we have been talking for 30 minutes, etc., etc. She gave me reasons back like we can eventually learn to communicate, she can learn my name and about me, and as long as I am willing to stay in China then I am good man for her. It was mind-boggling to her that I didn't see her thinking about it as "that's all that's needed for marriage." I decided to make her delete me by insulting China in the best way possible. I said I can't eat Chinese food, I hate it and even if I loved her so much, I could never stand to eat her food or eat outside with her. It's not true, I eat Chinese food about 6 days per week for all meals, but she didn't know that. She got angry and said I should go find someone that can eat the same food as me and it must be unbearable to talk with someone who eats Chinese food, and then she deleted me.

This happens every single week, usually more than once. It takes them about 10 minutes to bring up the marriage, and then think that's all I need to say yes or no and be 100% serious about it. I really should just say yes one day and see what happens, but I already have enough crazy people on there.

you are the kind of guy that ruined me. When I hit 30 I seriously wanted to settle down and had two, maybe 3 pending how you read into the situation, girls dump or break up with me because "a foreigner would never really date a Chinese". I heard that in two different variations and then a third from a girls parents. I'm not a bad dude I was like "no I'm really serious about settling down" but none of them believed it

Now

One is already divorced after marrying the dude her parents made her marry and messaged me out of the blue last week asking for 160,000 rmb because "she needs it"
One is in Australia working at a restaurant as a hostess illegally and dating a Chinese dude who is a dishwasher there. She's 27
One is 27 and single in Shenzhen and had a great meltdown when I told her my wife and I got engaged, she's deleted me and added me on WeChat like four times in the past year and blames it on her "mobile phone problem"

Funny enough I'm now in a penthouse in Honolulu on holiday from work with my wife and child and put something on WeChat about it. None of those three girls liked it, though

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Haier posted:

That's a Japan thing and term. China is still firmly rooted in the 30+ category as being human garbage unfit for anything. The poorer/smaller towns and villages drastically lower that age since rednecks love them's a fuckin' and marryin' super early. My ex-GF from a small hillbilly town (several million people) in Anhui had two older sisters that were married and pregnant by 20, and she was the freak that didn't want to do that. She eventually got married and pregnant by 31.

The weird ones to me are the women that are 30+ that are already divorced, some with children, and who are immediately looking to get married again right this moment. They're so desperate for some reason, even though the market for divorced women is basically other divorced men (who usually don't want a divorced women either). I've turned down or been deleted by so many of these marriage hunters, and always in the most bizarre ways. It's usually like:

Her: "Hi, my name is PURPLE CLOUD. I am 35. Are you married? What is your name? What is your age? What is your job??????"
Me: "Name, age, marital status. Job."
Her: "I am divorced. Is that ok?"
Me: "No problem. Me too."
Her: "Wow. I am looking for a husband."
Her: *Sends 4 or 5 selfies to me*
Her: "What do you think??"
Me: "I am not looking to get married again right now."
Her: "Oh..."
Her: *Deletes me*

I wonder what will happen if I say "Oh, dear, you look beautiful. I am also looking to get married right now too!" I had a woman delete me a few days ago after telling me she wanted a husband and she had asked if I was interested to marry her after sending a few selfies to me. She added me on Tantan and didn't speak English. I gave her a logical list of reasons why it's not good, like the fact we don't speak the same language, we haven't met yet, I don't know her name and she doesn't know mine, we have been talking for 30 minutes, etc., etc. She gave me reasons back like we can eventually learn to communicate, she can learn my name and about me, and as long as I am willing to stay in China then I am good man for her. It was mind-boggling to her that I didn't see her thinking about it as "that's all that's needed for marriage." I decided to make her delete me by insulting China in the best way possible. I said I can't eat Chinese food, I hate it and even if I loved her so much, I could never stand to eat her food or eat outside with her. It's not true, I eat Chinese food about 6 days per week for all meals, but she didn't know that. She got angry and said I should go find someone that can eat the same food as me and it must be unbearable to talk with someone who eats Chinese food, and then she deleted me.

This happens every single week, usually more than once. It takes them about 10 minutes to bring up the marriage, and then think that's all I need to say yes or no and be 100% serious about it. I really should just say yes one day and see what happens, but I already have enough crazy people on there.

It's weird how you can be considered a perpetual devil laowai outsider in China and apparently still have no trouble on the dating or even marriage scene. Is it like a fetish or what

Koramei
Nov 11, 2011

I have three regrets
The first is to be born in Joseon.
not usually the same people doing both those

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax

The Great Autismo! posted:

you are the kind of guy that ruined me. When I hit 30 I seriously wanted to settle down and had two, maybe 3 pending how you read into the situation, girls dump or break up with me because "a foreigner would never really date a Chinese". I heard that in two different variations and then a third from a girls parents. I'm not a bad dude I was like "no I'm really serious about settling down" but none of them believed it

Now

One is already divorced after marrying the dude her parents made her marry and messaged me out of the blue last week asking for 160,000 rmb because "she needs it"
One is in Australia working at a restaurant as a hostess illegally and dating a Chinese dude who is a dishwasher there. She's 27
One is 27 and single in Shenzhen and had a great meltdown when I told her my wife and I got engaged, she's deleted me and added me on WeChat like four times in the past year and blames it on her "mobile phone problem"

Funny enough I'm now in a penthouse in Honolulu on holiday from work with my wife and child and put something on WeChat about it. None of those three girls liked it, though
Ohhhh. Very jealous you're in HNL, my hometown. I haven't been back since 2011, after my entire family exodused out of there over the years, but my sister is still there with her BF and my local-kine friends still ask me to come back. No way the jobs there pay enough to afford those prices. Please get sun burnt and go to Don Quijote in Ala Moana (Kaheka Street) and chug some Japanese energy drinks for me.

I didn't do anything! Soooo many women also believe that Chinese and non-Chinese are completely incompatible because of "cultural differences," and usually this has been pushed into their heads by family or friends. You know the huge amount of rumors here about foreigners. I've been turned down by normal, nice, good girls because they think it's too strange and impossible to be with a non-Chinese, and they never want to leave China or they are convinced they will be whisked to Waiguo-ville and never speak their language or eat their own food ever again. My ex-fiancee's parents were convinced they would never see her again if we got married because there's no way people can afford a flight to-and-from the USA more than once in a few decades.

I turn them down, maybe make some jokes, but I have never met one face to face. The girls I have found to really like foreigners have always been in a relationship with one before, and it ended due to him moving or him trading up. Some guys later might get turned down by women that meet me, because they all come to me for FWB or personal desire, and then try to snag me and reel me in and are left disappointed and then blame me for sticking to the plan and not just immediately agreeing to their change of heart.


Phlegmish posted:

It's weird how you can be considered a perpetual devil laowai outsider in China and apparently still have no trouble on the dating or even marriage scene. Is it like a fetish or what
This is common for a lot of men here, Chinese or not. Despite there being more males in the population, the females have such a cultural urge to do X by such and such date, or reach some goal (or reach it again if the first time didn't work out) that they are almost always on the level of desperate and mildly-to-very crazy about it once they meet a man that they like or is agreeable to their interests. China and India are the only countries where I have had marriage offers on a first meeting, and China is the only place where I have women propose marriage to me, usually offering ME the house and car because they are wealthy or have good jobs, but local guys want younger and dumber (which is funny, because you'd think they'd appreciate a woman that knows how to handle money instead of blowing it all on clothes, iPhones, vacations, and purses and openly milking their wallets and bank accounts as part of the relationship).
My boss married her husband because both had good jobs and saved money, were single and past 30, and met each other's requirements for dietary and social concerns. She had her daughter at like 35, and her and her husband sleep in separate rooms and beds. This is pretty common here, because people want social security and welfare and this is the main way to get it. Now just imagine what that's like if the couple find out they are actually mildly attracted to each other (or her to him), and then it becomes a fast race to the marriage certificate department.

One of my friends (normal friends, not the other kind) got married out of age-related freak-outs and then regretted it a week later and apparently if you don't send in the marriage certificate as well as don't live together for 6 months after marriage or something, it's automatically null. She's got a few months left on her countdown to being "single" again, and he's in Taiwan crying.

Mr. Fix It
Oct 26, 2000

💀ayyy💀


OctaviusBeaver posted:

If Japan has such a labor shortage maybe they could try paying people more instead of paying them less and less every year for the past 10 years. Or maybe not make people stay at work for 12 hours a day until they kill themselves, shrinking the labor pool.

Well, it's more demographic problem: just not enough working age men in the country. They could either better promote female participation in the workforce or accept immigrants. The pay a lot of lip service to the former with little result and the latter is politically impossible.

THE PWNER
Sep 7, 2006

by merry exmarx
I'm gonna goto China to get married because it's my only chance.

Dicky mouse
Apr 11, 2008

"No No Not like that....Thats just silly"

Mr. Fix It posted:

Well, it's more demographic problem: just not enough working age men in the country. They could either better promote female participation in the workforce or accept immigrants. The pay a lot of lip service to the former with little result and the latter is politically impossible.

Basically the number of old people in Japan is increasing, (they have a rather long life span).

economic stagnation and a property bubble have led to young people not marrying or having enough children.

Fun fact if you marry and have one child you've basically halfed the population because you haven't replaced both yourself and your spouse. Also since not everyone lives to reproduce its still gonna shrink if you have two children. To grow a population you need at least 3.

Now ad in sexism and Xenophobiba and yeah your working population really shrinks.

Now you think this is gonna be great for the worker right? Well no if the economy is stagnate, with inflaction, or worse you re having to support all the older people who are now retired on their pension your standard of living is gonna take a huge loving hit. Not to mention again the cost of having a child.

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

It doesn't help if your spouse or the whole household works 12 hour days every day. Stress does not lead to a happy sex-life.

Pretty good
Apr 16, 2007



So like what happened with the Tianjin explosion in the end, is there still a big toxic hole in the ground or what

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

THE PWNER posted:

I'm gonna goto China to get married because it's my only chance.

if it's your only chance, don't go to China, go to Philippines or Thailand or Cambodia

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
Lipstick Apathy

Dicky mouse posted:

Fun fact if you marry and have one child you've basically halfed the population because you haven't replaced both yourself and your spouse. Also since not everyone lives to reproduce its still gonna shrink if you have two children. To grow a population you need at least 3.

You are mixing averages in aggretate with absolutes of the individual. Bad for healthy of brain. Have a sniff of gasoline to add heat to head for better.

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Dicky mouse
Apr 11, 2008

"No No Not like that....Thats just silly"

Potrzebie posted:

You are mixing averages in aggretate with absolutes of the individual. Bad for healthy of brain. Have a sniff of gasoline to add heat to head for better.

hey do a goon a solid and have a kid to replace since I will never reproduce.

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