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oh, i didnt remember that you were at intel now. well good luck with that, maybe they'll make yall do the crazy acpi cppc stuff next instead of good ol p-state control
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c terrible programmer s: spent a whole day tearing my hair out about why none of my log statements were being hit, turns out the code I was editing was not the code I was running.
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i spent an hour or so today trying to figure out why something wasn't working and the reason was that i put an @ on the wrong side of a {
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:here's my tiling-within-iterm setup on osx: you seem like an incredible nerd
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loving christ this project, there is nothing i can take a look at and have it make sense, it's a fractal of terrible
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Jabor posted:c terrible programmer s: spent a whole day tearing my hair out about why none of my log statements were being hit, turns out the code I was editing was not the code I was running. sympathies
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Nov 29, 2016 09:34
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Jabor posted:c terrible programmer s: spent a whole day tearing my hair out about why none of my log statements were being hit, turns out the code I was editing was not the code I was running. i've done this with trying to fix a failing test before
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Nov 29, 2016 09:50
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Jabor posted:c terrible programmer s: spent a whole day tearing my hair out about why none of my log statements were being hit, turns out the code I was editing was not the code I was running. these days this is one of the very first things I verify before starting work on anything, just because of how many times I've made that mistake
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Nov 29, 2016 11:28
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Wheany posted:loving christ this project, there is nothing i can take a look at and have it make sense, it's a fractal of terrible i'm doing a 3-way compare with version control - testing - production and i just found a file that was altered in production in 2013 that had over 100 lines of sql added to it. it was never copied to version control and one developer made some changes a few months ago. those changes have been tested and are ready to deploy to production. i shudder to think what would have happened if i had just deployed the version from testing to production without checking. 
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Nov 29, 2016 13:12
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qntm posted:these days this is one of the very first things I verify before starting work on anything, just because of how many times I've made that mistake same
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Nov 29, 2016 13:42
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Jabor posted:c terrible programmer s: spent a whole day tearing my hair out about why none of my log statements were being hit, turns out the code I was editing was not the code I was running. 
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Nov 29, 2016 13:52
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there is a file that is found both on the test and production servers, but is not in version control. the test and production version have some slight differences. i think my ruling is "the production version is de-facto the correct one and will be committed to version control"
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Nov 29, 2016 13:56
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Jabor posted:c terrible programmer s: spent a whole day tearing my hair out about why none of my log statements were being hit, turns out the code I was editing was not the code I was running.
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Nov 29, 2016 14:18
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Wheany posted:there is a file that is found both on the test and production servers, but is not in version control. there's no other option. nuke the test one and commit the prod one and fix your loving deploy so this can't happen again. i've done exactly this before there is a slight exception if you can find a person who is familiar with both and can attest that the test version is a non-breaking improvement on the prod one but that will never happen
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Nov 29, 2016 15:55
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Jabor posted:c terrible programmer s: spent a whole day tearing my hair out about why none of my log statements were being hit, turns out the code I was editing was not the code I was running. that's one of the things eclipse always handled better than VS. in vs you have your currently running project which only ever has one entry point. in eclipse you can easily just run whatever you're currently looking at.
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Just spent a while trying to work out why some code was working perfectly on QA but crashing on production and eventually working out it's because the account id was being cast to a short at one point and all the QA accounts being tested with had low account ids. This isn't the first time we've had this either, for such an obscure bug I'm surprised how often the scenario has come up.
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Nov 29, 2016 16:47
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Chalks posted:Just spent a while trying to work out why some code was working perfectly on QA but crashing on production and eventually working out it's because the account id was being cast to a short at one point and all the QA accounts being tested with had low account ids. This isn't the first time we've had this either, for such an obscure bug I'm surprised how often the scenario has come up. lol (not saying that's dumb, it's not, it's fairly understandable. but it's still amusing)
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Nov 29, 2016 17:36
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:only programmers will know this feel one of my non-programmer friends said to me once: "all you do is stare at the same line of code all day and then add a semi-colon and then call it good." he knows me too well
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Nov 29, 2016 17:36
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had my first ever white board interview after 7 years of programming. they loving suck massive dicks
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Nov 29, 2016 17:38
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bone app the teeth posted:had my first ever white board interview after 7 years of programming. they loving suck massive dicks Was it bad because you were nervous or because they asked stupid questions? pls post questions if they were stupid
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Nov 29, 2016 17:40
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i3wm is probably the best programmer window manager but i run os x for everything
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Finster Dexter posted:Was it bad because you were nervous or because they asked stupid questions? pls post questions if they were stupid questions were easy but stepping up to a blank white board while 6 people watch you. ugh, my nerves
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:i3wm is probably the best programmer window manager but i run os x for everything same and same
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I hope the next version of C has something like gcc's cleanup function attribute for local variables because I am being tempted by that particular siren song and it seems rly cool
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bone app the teeth posted:questions were easy but stepping up to a blank white board while 6 people watch you. ugh, my nerves If it makes you feel better, when we're doing whiteboard interviews we definitely take nerves into account, and it's usually obvious when nerves are big factor.
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i3 rules and so does linux, I can't imagine spending another second of my life fighting against subtle osx fuckery pls ignore the fact that im traveling with 2 laptops because I can't webex with silly clients on linux at least i know i'm retarded I guess?
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i use linux for a lot of things but macbook pros are the only good laptops. that was pretty much the deciding factor.
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:i use linux for a lot of things but macbook pros are the only good laptops. that was pretty much the deciding factor. no joke, they literally don't have enough ram for what i do  pretty much stuck with thinkpad p-series, or dell precision
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VOTE YES ON 69 posted:no joke, they literally don't have enough ram for what i do what are you doing on a laptop that requires more than 16gb of ram? EDIT: not saying you shouldn't, im just curious
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VOTE YES ON 69 posted:no joke, they literally don't have enough ram for what i do hm i just use my laptop for office and web browsing and all my actual work runs remotely on a real computer
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:i use linux for a lot of things but macbook pros are the only good laptops. that was pretty much the deciding factor. I really hate mac keyboards and am gonna be real sad when Lenovo inevitably decides to ruin the ones in T/X/W-series thinkpads
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:what are you doing on a laptop that requires more than 16gb of ram? My work laptop has 32gb because I do a lot of mesos dev stuff w/ lots of containers
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:what are you doing on a laptop that requires more than 16gb of ram? i dunno about them but we develop an on-prem system that runs on servers with like 96gb+ of ram (or clusters of those servers) in production, but for dev we have the entire system with like 12 different services + artificial data generation + dev tools squeezed into a single vm that can run on a laptop. it can run on a laptop w/16gb of ram but barely. it's super nice though because you can essentially run production system locally with the only change being a reduced workload by typing "vagrant up" (and the sales guys love this too for demos) if we didn't have people who insist on running macbooks we would probably require 32gb Arcsech fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Nov 29, 2016 |
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Chalks posted:Just spent a while trying to work out why some code was working perfectly on QA but crashing on production and eventually working out it's because the account id was being cast to a short at one point and all the QA accounts being tested with had low account ids. This isn't the first time we've had this either, for such an obscure bug I'm surprised how often the scenario has come up. Gotta optimize
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gonadic io posted:fix your loving deploy so this can't happen again. i've done exactly this before yeah, i'm pretty sure the deploy process is "someone copies some files with winscp to the production server" then again, now that i've said that, i will find out that it's something dumber. maybe i have to copy the files with ftp on some other server and then run a script on the production server that downloads the files from a hardcoded ip address and path. who knows! every day is like a new adventure! 
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C.H.O.M.E posted:an x86 emulator done right is kinda our job also why can't you crack open the simulator and figure out the hang??
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:here's my tiling-within-iterm setup on osx: our codebase is full of unspeakable horrors, but when i see screenshots like this one I remember that every single piece of our code is at least broadly outlined in comments and that I couldn't find two bare pages like these ones if i tried, and i realise that's at least one thing we can genuinely feel proud of
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