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The Shortest Path posted:Clearly I heard very wrong then. According to the folks over at Serebii: Serebii.net posted:Base rate in Gen 6-7: 1/4096
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tyblazitar posted:I believe all but one of them are exclusively found in the one pile on Route 10, so make sure to hit that one every day.
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One day. One day Gamefreak will take pity on Ice types and remove one of their weaknesses. 
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i want to learn to competitive mon how do i actually start because the community seems really hard to get into
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Internet Kraken posted:That's pretty much the core hypocrisy of Smogon. Stealth rock is on literally every singles team. They've banned tons of stuff for being too prevalent or centralizing, but not that. I think that entry hazards are fun--when they're out they add another level of complexity to when you decide to switch, you have to takes turns to set them up, and there are pokemon like Forretress whose entire niche is based on being able to set up or clear removal hazards, or blocking the other team from clearing out your entry hazards, like Jellicent. That said, Stealth Rock caring about typing *is* pretty dumb.
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i poop fire posted:According to the folks over at Serebii:
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Flopsy posted:It's almost as if pikaclones suck or something. Mimikyu excluded because it rules. I don't know- I like togedemaru. It may not know anything outside of gyroball but it does learn poison jab. Also its adorable and without thinking I got rid of nuzzle and placed thunderwave on it. However, it shoots thunderwave out of its butt so it makes it all okay again.
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Flopsy posted:It's almost as if pikaclones suck or something. Mimikyu excluded because it rules. Pachirisu won a VGC worlds though!!!
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eonwe posted:i want to learn to competitive mon I'd recommend just going to Shodown and spectating matches in various formats. See what looks like fun to you and get an idea for how teams are built. There are probably extensive write ups you could read but I wouldn't know. Everything I learned about competitive was by asking questions here, watching matches, and just throwing teams at the wall to see what sticks.
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cancerianmoth posted:I don't know- I like togedemaru. It may not know anything outside of gyroball but it does learn poison jab. Also its adorable and without thinking I got rid of nuzzle and placed thunderwave on it. However, it shoots thunderwave out of its butt so it makes it all okay again. Ah, don't mind me. I'm just an old salt who has to drag herself out from under rock to complain about this poo poo every now again. There's a pokemon for everyone and it ain't my place to take it away from you. The Shortest Path posted:Pachirisu won a VGC worlds though!!! Well that one wanted to be the best. Like no one ever was......
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entry hazards are low risk high reward 👎 when you get to vgc and you have less turns to waste and a fraction of the switching, they're higher risk for less reward so you stop seeing it 👍
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Even in Smogon Doubles (which has generally been a better format than VGC doubles) hazards are a lot less prevalent apart from Sticky Web and Toxic Spikes, which is nice. I tend to like doubles more than singles in general, and that's one of the major reasons. Hazards and spins and spinblockers and anti-spinblockers is just a big pile of busywork when there could be more interesting decisions to make. E: ^ one berry pile on route 10 apparently has them.
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 Thanks Baron Hoot, Peppero, Jess, Blue Steel, Shadowfax and Sploopums. It was a crazy ride. The end of credits had me tearing up.
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90 accuracy more like zero accuracy haha  http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7vgc2017-486089533
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Internet Kraken posted:I'd recommend just going to Shodown and spectating matches in various formats. See what looks like fun to you and get an idea for how teams are built. There are probably extensive write ups you could read but I wouldn't know. Everything I learned about competitive was by asking questions here, watching matches, and just throwing teams at the wall to see what sticks. Yeah while posting on Smogon is good there's also a LOT of noise since, like thb said, there's a lot of Literal Children posting there and if you don't know who to listen to it isn't really helpful. There's really nothing stopping me from going on there and talking about how everyone is sleeping on Choice Specs Tapu Bulu aside from people telling me I'm dumb. Contacting thb directly like he offered is probably a good way to dive straight in but you can also do stuff like post here and say "I think [6v6 singles, VGC doubles, etc.] looks cool, I made a lovely team, someone play against me and tell me what you think" if you don't want to jump right into the deep end. A lot of learning games is trial and error yeah, but the very early part of the process where you get beaten a lot goes by MUCH faster if you have someone to critique your team/decisions during the game or after. And people here are probably gonna be much friendlier on average than randoms on Showdown, especially in low ladder where everyone is trolling and running names like "BlackLivesDontMatter"
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Captain Oblivious posted:One day. One day Gamefreak will take pity on Ice types and remove one of their weaknesses. And remove two weakness and resistor types for Grass.
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aaron "CYBERTRON" zheng just started his series of vgc 2017 and also put up an intro to 2017 teambuilding/rules. right now he's instructing drought torkoal to erupt in trick room
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VGC is a poo poo format for retards that prefer gimmicks over strategy
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Ibblebibble posted:
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qnqnx posted:VGC is a poo poo format for retards that prefer gimmicks over strategy 2016 sure, but 2017 VGC looks like it might actually be good.
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oddium posted:aaron "CYBERTRON" zheng just started his series of vgc 2017 and also put up an intro to 2017 teambuilding/rules. right now he's instructing drought torkoal to erupt in trick room Sick.
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Internet Kraken posted:I'd recommend just going to Shodown and spectating matches in various formats. See what looks like fun to you and get an idea for how teams are built. There are probably extensive write ups you could read but I wouldn't know. Everything I learned about competitive was by asking questions here, watching matches, and just throwing teams at the wall to see what sticks. thanks buddy
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FInally getting my head around pvp. Z-Parting Shot is so clutch and has won me several games. Taunting a sweeper that is trying to setup, or a screener/spikes setter is equally so satisfying. http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7ou-486095313
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Note Block posted:I currently have extra of the following: I'm interested in the timid ditto if it hasn't been claimed 0619-7909-3613 kirtar IGN
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corn in the bible posted:where are you guys getting these pictures of your hof team https://richi3f.github.io/pokemon-team-planner
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Dizz posted:
I could use a Destiny Knot. IGN Is Isabel. Code is 0189-8423-5030
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Phrosphor posted:FInally getting my head around pvp. Z-Parting Shot is so clutch and has won me several games. Taunting a sweeper that is trying to setup, or a screener/spikes setter is equally so satisfying. alolan persian is The Truth man
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i just want to say how much a loving monster Kartana is, at -1 it OHKO'd my slowbro with max HP investment. chill out man
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I actually managed to catch Tapu Fini in a beast ball and of course its nature was Sassy instead of Modest qnqnx posted:VGC is a poo poo format for retards that prefer gimmicks over strategy Given VGC changes every year I'm not sure how you come to that conclusion. The first year when I really got into competitive was when X/Y released and the format was really fun. Huge variety of pokemon to use with none of the old legendaries lurking around to ruin it. ORAS was poo poo because it permitted all legendaries so every team was a primal nightmare. This year isn't as fun as X/Y, but its still a nice change of pace as its only the Alolan dex with no megas. I'm not gonna claim its balanced but it is fun to play. There are people that run stupid gimmicks (extreme evo boost eeve  ) but that's true of literally every format. At least we don't have to worry about dark void smeargle anymore.EDIT: Basically you can only say VGC is gimmicky if you think all doubles strategies are inherently gimmicky, but that's just silly.
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Internet Kraken posted:I actually managed to catch Tapu Fini in a beast ball and of course its nature was Sassy instead of Modest I'm on hour five of resetting the Nebby story fight to try and force her into my only Beast Ball that I got from trade. How long did Tapu Fini take you?
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I wanted to catch a HA Dratini in a beast ball, but while chaining I didn't realize that Marvel Scale didn't have a notification whenever it activated, so it was a fun guessing game of thunder waving until hopefully one didn't shed it, while also constantly getting hit with dragon tail and safe guard. But I finally did it. Now to breed for jolly.
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Internet Kraken posted:EDIT: Basically you can only say VGC is gimmicky if you think all doubles strategies are inherently gimmicky, but that's just silly. That + GameFreak's obsession with availability based banlists and poor attempts at balance.
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Note Block posted:I'm on hour five of resetting the Nebby story fight to try and force her into my only Beast Ball that I got from trade. How long did Tapu Fini take you? I've been doing it on and off for like, uh, an hour total? Probably gotten lucky actually catching it not once, but twice now. Of course both times synchronize didn't work so it had a poo poo nature, making that luck pointless. How exactly does synchronize work in this game? You just need a KO'd abra in the front slot with the right nature to have a 50% chance, correct? qnqnx posted:That + GameFreak's obsession with availability based banlists and poor attempts at balance. Okay you're just being dumb then. Got it. Internet Kraken fucked around with this message at 02:16 on Nov 30, 2016 |
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qnqnx posted:VGC is a poo poo format for retards that prefer gimmicks over strategy Counterpoint; the word "gimmick" is vague and meaningless in any metagame context.
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Singles appeals to Spikes, Doubles favor Johnnies. Both have value, but play to different tastes. I personally prefer Doubles, but that's just because I like the added depth and don't have much patience for the amount of switching in Singles.
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behold, togedemaru, the little zap zinger that could http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7vgc2017-486120524 ALL HAIL TOGEDEMARU http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7vgc2017-486127570 boy are my arms tired fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Nov 30, 2016 |
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Holy poo poo, I just hatched a shiny Mareanie on the 3rd egg!
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Bleck posted:Counterpoint; the word "gimmick" is vague and meaningless in any metagame context. Yeah, good point. The idea of there being gimmicks in a competitive game is predicated on there being right and wrong ways to play, which just isn't true.
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i am so pleased with how togedemaru performs that i am breeding up a bunch of them with fakeout as an egg move and 5/6ivs; if you'd like one, watch this thread tomorrow and ill start giving them away things im looking for: literally anything with egg moves, interesting balls, or otherwise useful in vgc
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