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The_Doctor posted:Doug Jones must love being in make-up. He does, that's what he's done for basically his entire career. Anthony Rapp, though. 
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Sisko never had to pilot a runabout called the Mississippi. 
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Pleasantly surprised with the Doug Jones casting. Looking forward to all the lame mushroom jokes from Lt. Fungus. It's pronounced "foon-jooze" thank you very much.
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Astromycologist seems really oddly specific for a role on a spaceship, I guess Astrobiologist was too boring for them? ^^
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Marshal Radisic posted:I thought we mostly rationalized that by imagining the "war" as a low-intensity conflict along a disputed border that just dragged on for years. Colonies get raided, ships snipe at one another, but no actual set piece battles. The Cardies don't have the power projection to make major gains, and the Federation is busy doodling away with exploration, internal consolidation, and other low-intensity conflicts (wasn't Sisko involved in a Space Gulf War with the Tzekenthi at some point?), so nothing really gets resolved until the Cardies start having larger internal problems and start agreeing to major concessions in the 2360s. The point I was making was that it's silly to respond to "it would have been pretty stupid to have the Federation on the verge of a military coup in season one, then just go back to random exploring for the rest of the series" with "this was also the time period they were supposed to be locked in a brutal war with the Cardassians", because the topic being discussed is not "what is the nature of the Star Trek TNG setting" but rather "how sound was the decision to make Conspiracy about an alien takeover attempt" and it's unfair to judge that decision based on what an entirely different set of writers did years later.
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LinkesAuge posted:Astromycologist seems really oddly specific for a role on a spaceship, I guess Astrobiologist was too boring for them? ^^ That specificity combined with Jones also playing a Science officer makes me wonder if Discovery will have a whole science team onboard for whatever this season's arc is.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:That specificity combined with Jones also playing a Science officer makes me wonder if Discovery will have a whole science team onboard for whatever this season's arc is. They're looking for a cure for the Tarsus IV crop blight.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:The point I was making was that it's silly to respond to "it would have been pretty stupid to have the Federation on the verge of a military coup in season one, then just go back to random exploring for the rest of the series" with "this was also the time period they were supposed to be locked in a brutal war with the Cardassians", because the topic being discussed is not "what is the nature of the Star Trek TNG setting" but rather "how sound was the decision to make Conspiracy about an alien takeover attempt" and it's unfair to judge that decision based on what an entirely different set of writers did years later. My point was that they weren't terribly concerned about the logic of the wider setting from episode to episode in TNG or the TNG movies so it wouldn't really be different than what they ended up doing anyway.
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Timby posted:They're looking for a cure for the Tarsus IV crop blight. Huh. I think you are onto something. The creators have been teasing that the show would focus on some bit of unexplored cannon history never seen on-screen.
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Drink-Mix Man posted:Huh. I think you are onto something. The creators have been teasing that the show would focus on some bit of unexplored cannon history never seen on-screen. I was really only joking, since the timeline doesn't match up (Discovery is ten years before TOS, but the Tarsus IV massacre was 20 years pre-TOS). Also, that would really be a complete rip-off of Babylon 5: Crusade.
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Mister Adequate posted:The latter plays a mycologist. Looking forward to seeing how they handle the Spathi.
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Mental Hospitality posted:I liked Farscape, it was fun. It was fun, but god drat, you really cannot go back to that show and feel even remotely as interested. That said, there are still good episodes and all.
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Timby posted:I was really only joking, since the timeline doesn't match up (Discovery is ten years before TOS, but the Tarsus IV massacre was 20 years pre-TOS). If you count "The Cage" as the start of TOS, it matches up.
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Timby posted:They're looking for a cure for the Tarsus IV crop blight. Holy poo poo. You could be right.
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They said he was a mycologist who was the chief science officer, it might just be what his doctorate is in but his ship duties are more generic.
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Stamets is the gay character. Woo. http://www.ew.com/article/2016/11/29/star-trek-discovery-cast-gay
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Sure, make the mycologist gay, as always. Typical 
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WickedHate posted:Sure, make the mycologist gay, as always. Typical
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WickedHate posted:It'd be more realistic if it was Spaceship McSpaceshipface Or perhaps, First Lieuteneral Space Captainface, captain of the USS The Proud Anselmo. 
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Timby posted:Anthony Rapp, though. What's wrong with Anthony Rapp?
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Zurui posted:What's wrong with Anthony Rapp? His whiny, entitled douchebag character in Rent makes me want to kick him in the balls. Edit: Also, DS9 is getting a DVD re-release early next year. Timby fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Nov 30, 2016 |
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Angry_Ed posted:Or perhaps, First Lieuteneral Space Captainface, captain of the USS The Proud Anselmo. But where are all the hot 60s looking girls?
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Timby posted:His whiny, entitled douchebag character in Rent makes me want to kick him in the balls.
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The_Doctor posted:I just figure she had a choice of commands and went for the ship with the name that meant something to her. Well that's pretty racist of her! She should be thinking better about her choices as a 23rd century captain and how they will perpetuate stereotypes across the Federation!
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Lord Hydronium posted:Well, it's also the name of China's manned spaceflight program. Yeah, it's like how there's a Soyuz class.
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WhiteHowler posted:I hate that we'll never get an HD remaster. I mean, I get why, but it sucks. I'd settle for a high-quality upscale and image remaster in its place.
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Zurui posted:What's wrong with Anthony Rapp? Childhood friend of "comedian" Andy Dick. Doug Jones should play Arex. The Fuzzy Hulk fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Nov 30, 2016 |
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Baronjutter posted:The chinese captain having a chinese ship is just too much for me. I was looking forward to this, had a tiny bit of hope, but that one thing is just too stupid and all hope and interest has been lost. And also, really dude, that's your threshold?
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WhiteHowler posted:I hate that we'll never get an HD remaster. I mean, I get why, but it sucks. Was there more of a reason than the TNG ones didn't sell well at all?
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Knormal posted:Didn't the earlier releases say she was captaining a non-Starfleet civilian ship that just gets caught up in the plot somehow? In that scenario it makes more sense a Chinese character would give her ship a Chinese name. Them now saying she's a Starfleet captain might just one of those cases of the press release people missing the memo. It's the internet. If you don't make a sweeping declaration about being over something once a week they cut off your access.
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Kazinsal posted:Too much CGI, the source files for which are potentially lost, built with an ancient version of LightWave 3D, and were definitely not meant to be seen in 1080p. Actually, one of the guys that worked on the stuff showed that not only were the files still intact, they were usable and could re-render in 1080p quite easily. Since it seems like they've disavowed you know who, I guess it's OK to link this. http://trekcore.com/blog/2013/05/deep-space-nine-in-high-definition-one-step-closer/ bull3964 fucked around with this message at 05:59 on Nov 30, 2016 |
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MisterBibs posted:Was there more of a reason than the TNG ones didn't sell well at all? I'd guess that the TNG sets didn't sell well because TNG has been running nonstop on cable for the last 20+ years, and everyone has seen them all a billion times. Also, lots of people owned the DVD sets but weren't quite fanatical enough to re-buy the series.
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WhiteHowler posted:That's pretty much it. If the most popular Trek show ever fell so short of their (probably ridiculous) expectations, there's not much hope for DS9. ...and that you could just stream the HD remasters on Amazon Prime almost as they came out, with Netflix following along not too much later. I think they might do it in the future when the technology has matured to the point that they can do 90% of it by having an intern feed camera negatives into a computer all day while the computer matches it up with the completed episode, especially if they ever get an executive in that loved DS9 and makes it his pet project (this will never happen). Big Mean Jerk posted:Why do the Enterprise blu-ray sets then? Just because it was already filmed in HD and made an easy transfer? Yes.
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WhiteHowler posted:That's pretty much it. If the most popular Trek show ever fell so short of their (probably ridiculous) expectations, there's not much hope for DS9. When the TNG sets were coming out, I kept seeing Facebook posts from friends along the lines of "oh, we're doing a TNG rewatch on Netflix, it's so much fun!" (This was long before Netflix got the HD version) I'm a broken record on this and I don't have any numbers to back this up, but I think CBS seriously blundered their release strategy. I think they should have revoked or refused to renew streaming rights while the Bluray sets were coming out so that people either had to go buy used DVD sets or buy new Bluray sets. Also, the pricing needed to be updated again to reflect modern sensibilities. Paramount was able to get away with $100 season boxsets when the DVDs first came out because season boxsets were still relatively novel, and because it was still a screaming good deal compared to what a season set on VHS would have run you. That just wasn't the case any more for a multitude of reasons.
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