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Slim Killington
Nov 16, 2007

I SAID GOOD DAY SIR
Fans: "We don't want to fight through a thousand droids down hallways and corridors!"

Bioware: "We hear you, now you can just hang out in one place and fight a thousand of them in waves instead."

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some dillweed
Mar 31, 2007

Senya's new head model makes her look kind of like an old man.

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

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Grog posted:

Senya's new head model makes her look kind of like an old man.

How is that different from the old model?

Slim Killington
Nov 16, 2007

I SAID GOOD DAY SIR
So far this expansion has been pretty bad for me story-wise, but man, I have straight up killed every companion they let me kill so far. It's so wonderful.

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


gently caress this, going to get a Naga soonest

phosdex
Dec 16, 2005

do any of you have the steelseries rival 500? That button layout looks much better to me.

Also I like the changes to Lana's face, it looks much better. Used to have weird angles on it.

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

So, uh, starting out in Vereran mode is apparently a bad idea? I kept getting completely clowned in chapter one with my most well equipped character.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

howe_sam posted:

So, uh, starting out in Vereran mode is apparently a bad idea? I kept getting completely clowned in chapter one with my most well equipped character.

It's meant to be done with at least a rank 20 companion and at the very minimum all 220 rated gear.

Kly
Aug 8, 2003

what did this last patch do!? im missing skills from my hotbar on every character

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

Kly posted:

what did this last patch do!? im missing skills from my hotbar on every character

I'd recommend reading the very extensive patch notes.

Kly
Aug 8, 2003

oh noooo, ive just been playin this as a poor quality kotor3. i dont like big changes!

phosdex
Dec 16, 2005

howe_sam posted:

So, uh, starting out in Vereran mode is apparently a bad idea? I kept getting completely clowned in chapter one with my most well equipped character.

I tried doing ch1 in vet but after I finished it says I did it in story mode so idk is going on.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Slim Killington posted:

So far this expansion has been pretty bad for me story-wise, but man, I have straight up killed every companion they let me kill so far. It's so wonderful.

Story wise it's great so far. No "nothing loving happens" chapters like in KOTFE so far.

Kly
Aug 8, 2003

i took a peek at the patch notes and it says
"The available number of Character Slots have been updated: 26 slots for Preferred Players"
but i still only have have 5/7 as a preferred player on the selection screen. am i misunderstanding what a character slot is?

SurelyForth
May 21, 2007

Kly posted:

i took a peek at the patch notes and it says
"The available number of Character Slots have been updated: 26 slots for Preferred Players"
but i still only have have 5/7 as a preferred player on the selection screen. am i misunderstanding what a character slot is?

It means you can have up to 26 character slots per server, but you still have to purchase slots over the amount given to you for free by the game.

Slim Killington
Nov 16, 2007

I SAID GOOD DAY SIR

Fojar38 posted:

Story wise it's great so far. No "nothing loving happens" chapters like in KOTFE so far.

I don't know if I'd rather have "nothing happens" chapters or "everything that happens is really badly done" chapters. All they really did for me is personally guarantee I'll never play through it on an alt, because the walker sequences are unequivocally the worst thing I've ever done in an MMO. And I flagged for PoTime. gently caress these chapters, for real.

Actually I take that back, the "party" chapter is a pretty awful slog too.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
I personally think it was 20 times better than KOTFE. There was definitely still too many Skytroopers but the final battles felt epic enough and were actually somewhat challenging even on story mode.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
Minor spoilers -

Man, if I am going to run through this again (which won't be soon) I'm going to beef up Lana since she's with you 90% of the time.

I'm sort of glad there really wasn't much recruitment of companions, because I'm less pressed into needing to do it again. Same reason I'm glad there isn't a really good reward - Story Mode rewarded me with a grade 210 chestpiece.

some dillweed
Mar 31, 2007

Hm. Along with the other bugs, the Arcann fight in Chapter 16 of KotFE seems to be bugged. After he blasts me across the room, I get stuck there and can't move, and the absorb/reflect 10% damage ability doesn't seem to do anything to him at that point either. I guess the patch needs a patch.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

Grog posted:

Hm. Along with the other bugs, the Arcann fight in Chapter 16 of KotFE seems to be bugged. After he blasts me across the room, I get stuck there and can't move, and the absorb/reflect 10% damage ability doesn't seem to do anything to him at that point either. I guess the patch needs a patch.

Sadly a known issue.

I think someone posted a workaround in the Reddit thread but it's 3am and I need to go to bed. :D

some dillweed
Mar 31, 2007

Yeah, I found it. You basically have to avoid using the shield bash when he's down to ~15-20% health, and just chip away at him using that "Unity" damage reflect ability since nothing else really seems to be affecting him. It takes forever that way, but it works.

M_Sinistrari
Sep 5, 2008

Do you like scary movies?



Grog posted:

Hm. Along with the other bugs, the Arcann fight in Chapter 16 of KotFE seems to be bugged. After he blasts me across the room, I get stuck there and can't move, and the absorb/reflect 10% damage ability doesn't seem to do anything to him at that point either. I guess the patch needs a patch.

I'm having an odd one of while taking out the skytroopers to help the Voss commandos on the way to the Tower of Prophecy, I'm having one of the skytroopers drop into the ground and lock me into combat to where I have to shut the game down in task manager to get out. I've had the occasional mob drop into the ground before and I'm unable to target them, but I never thought much of it since my companion's been able to target them and keep plinking away until they're dead. I treat it as a chance to stretch my legs for a bit. But with this instance, not only can I not target the mob, my companion doesn't seem to either and I'm left with the Voss plinking away on the trooper I can't even see a hp counter on to know if they're doing anything other than shooting at the floor. I've tried putting my companion on passive and putting distance between me and the mob to break combat with no luck. I've even made it all the way over to Theron and can't talk to him because I'm still considered in combat. Can't change map instance, log out or quit game either. After the first manual shut down, I stayed logged out for a bit and tried again. I was back at the starting point after going through the Voss sewer/corridor and it happened again. This time I've given it a few hours logged out and if it happens again, I'll file a ticket, but I am a bit twitchy about trying with a different toon in case it happens again.

phosdex
Dec 16, 2005

I hit 70 just after ch 4. Then I did command stuff and got to rank 7. Got a couple 230 schems but nothing else good. Guildies got some 230 set armor pieces.

HiveCommander
Jun 19, 2012

Is One Man Army meant to only give you the Alacrity buff if Electronet actually blocks a movement ability from being used? Because that's really lame if that's the case; was really liking the thought of another alacrity boost for my 'Mando healer :smith:

DrunkenGarbageCan
Nov 4, 2009

phosdex posted:

I tried doing ch1 in vet but after I finished it says I did it in story mode so idk is going on.

I did it all in Veteran and got the Veteran achievements. It reverts back to Story difficulty after Chapter 1, you have to exit then manually select the next Chapter from the Menu Bar Content->Chapters and start it in Veteran.

208 PvP gear and a lvl 50 Lana...never really got challenged.

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

Medullah posted:

It's meant to be done with at least a rank 20 companion and at the very minimum all 220 rated gear.

Hrm, my companion's rank 30, but my gear's only a mix of 208 and 216, so that's probably it. Poor Lana was getting wrecked in that tower of prophecy segment in chapter 1.

I'll just drop down to story mode, easy peasy

patb01
Jul 4, 2008
Apparently servers are down for an hour to fix some bugs. not much more on the forums, but hopefully some of the more obnoxious ones get fixed.

Though apparently the reddit forum is all creepily happy that they can change Shae Visla's armor.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

patb01 posted:

Apparently servers are down for an hour to fix some bugs. not much more on the forums, but hopefully some of the more obnoxious ones get fixed.

Though apparently the reddit forum is all creepily happy that they can change Shae Visla's armor.

I don't think it's creepy to want to be able to change outfits. To me, that was the biggest reason I never used Lana/Theron/Senya/etc., because I couldn't make a set of armor that made them fit in with my toon. Sure, having her dressed in slave girl outfit would be creepy, but otherwise she's just another pre-rendered Pokemon in my deck.

patb01
Jul 4, 2008
Oh changing outfits not creepy, I do the same thing, get a theme going for the ultimate posse the sudden desire to slap her in a slave bikini though.

Edit: which is exactly what you said

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

Les Ricains tuent et moi je mue
Mao Mao
Les fous sont rois et moi je bois
Mao Mao
Les bombes tonnent et moi je sonne
Mao Mao
Les bebes fuient et moi je fuis
Mao Mao


Finished it last night. I liked it a whole lot.

Though for the end I'm kind of like uhhh what's left? Really feeling the vibe that this was sort of the "end" of SWTOR story wise as most of the threads are tied up and all that really remains is the whole mess of companions that haven't returned yet.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

Berke Negri posted:

Finished it last night. I liked it a whole lot.

Though for the end I'm kind of like uhhh what's left? Really feeling the vibe that this was sort of the "end" of SWTOR story wise as most of the threads are tied up and all that really remains is the whole mess of companions that haven't returned yet.

Yeah I suspect (General spoilers and sort of major ending spoiler) that we'll get some various alliance alerts, and possibly some of the endgame content that they're supposedly working on might involve the lost companions. I actually wouldn't mind seeing a Flashpoint where a cult of bloodthirsty Sith are making their way through the universe, murdering everyone in their path, and when you get to the final boss, it's Jaessa. After you complete the FP you get a mini-quest to recruit her or kill her. That would, of course, be immersion breaking as all 4-8 people get the chance to recruit her into their alliances, but hey, it's a way of bringing her back.

Could also do things like "A group of bloodthirsty monsters murdered everyone at a science conference because they heard there is an "ultimate weapon" that can do blah blah blah, and at the end you find that Theran has been kidnapped and they're torturing him for info, etc, etc."

Also, I'm both disappointed and relieved that you don't earn the title "Emperor" from finishing KOTET

M_Sinistrari
Sep 5, 2008

Do you like scary movies?



Berke Negri posted:

Finished it last night. I liked it a whole lot.

Though for the end I'm kind of like uhhh what's left? Really feeling the vibe that this was sort of the "end" of SWTOR story wise as most of the threads are tied up and all that really remains is the whole mess of companions that haven't returned yet.

That's actually been a pretty popular discussion point on the SWTOR forums since KotFE hit. Spoilering for a just in case.

Considering how big it seemed they were aiming for, especially with all the statements of the Outlander having to take the Eternal Throne and the possibility that there will be people choosing for their character to become the Star Wars equivalent of God-Emperor, it's really dependent on how much the writers are willing to go for broke and actually dig into the possibilities. Pretty common is that after the Zakuul Empire poo poo was done that there'd be a return to the old Republic/Empire theme as everyone's rebuilding and in light of people getting offed like Saresh and the Emperor, it fits that for both factions there'd be some power plays and scrambling for more territory/resources since even with the willingness to drop hostilities to join forces against a bigbad, it never seems to last. There could be a chance to restructure the factions to a more rational and reasonable Empire and a back to our ideals Republic with internal factions being very resistant to that. There's exploring more into the 'mysterious' species/governments like the Rakata, and the Gree. There's also the option of revisiting the old content in a 'here's how it all looks now' so we'd get to see stuff like a Balmorra that isn't still wartorn. There's taking the background oneshot content like the Droid Rebellion from the Directive 7 flashpoint, or the Mother Machine on Belsavis and expanding those further. They could even cherry pick from the old EU for story ideas that don't suck or take the sucky ones and try to make them not suck.

It's one of those since there's something like 3000 years until there has to be any concern about what happens in the movies since the Great De-canoning of the EU, the writers have the chance to go properly balls out for content ideas. But the question is are they knowledgeable and confident enough to do so.

Aleth
Aug 2, 2008

Pillbug
I'm definitely liking the makeover they gave to Voss in chapter 1, although I feel they stopped short of true perfection.

phosdex
Dec 16, 2005

Planetary missions disabled due to the exploit of it auto-completing some missions. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=9134248#edit9134248

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
Anyone else not able to access their crew skills?

I get my list of companions with everything else blacked out atm.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
So it seems that crafted gear is going to be a lot better than 4.0 launch gear. From what I've seen so far you can get 228 rated purples (full sets along with mods, enhancements, relocs and hilts) for just the base crew skill mats + purple mission skill. I also got a couple schematics, one for a 230 tank lightsaber and a 230 tank mod and they require the standard mats, purple slicing mats, and the new Exotic blue mats. Those seem to be much more common than before - I got 3 running a tactical.

You can also learn all 3 mod variations straight from the trainer - so unlettered, A, and B mods.

So while GC kinda sucks so far, at least we'll have decent mods and enhancements, just be stuck with armorings for set bonus.

Aleth
Aug 2, 2008

Pillbug
They really need to add a cosmetic weapon slot if we're expected to use those crafted, non-customisable weapons.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

Aleth posted:

They really need to add a cosmetic weapon slot if we're expected to use those crafted, non-customisable weapons.

That's always been my number one QOL request. Unfortunately I don't think it's as easy as outfit designer was due to sound effects and weapon length. I want to use the weapons our Creator makes but the bind to legacy ones are just too useful.

DrunkenGarbageCan
Nov 4, 2009

Medullah posted:

So while GC kinda sucks so far

What do you mean kinda?

RNG that your armor piece isn't a crappy green. RNG that it's set bonus. RNG that it's a relevant set bonus. RNG that you don't already have that piece. RNG, RNG, RNG...

So you finally get a full set bonus..hmm none of my premade friends are on I'll switch to DPS to have more fun in the solo queue...oh wait..

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sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
Sith Warrior

It's bullshit I don't get to rip Quinn's head off.

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