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flakeloaf posted:I have no idea what the gently caress I'm even talking about half the time, and up until recently I thought that'd be some kind of impediment. This hasn't stopped politicians in the age of social media
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flakeloaf posted:I have no idea what the gently caress I'm even talking about half the time, and up until recently I thought that'd be some kind of impediment. And as anyone can attest, I have a rather bulbous rear end from which to pull things. I've met our MP and MPP (the latter of which is the current speaker of Queen's Park) a few times at various events (usually ethnic) and it's always the same speech about how much they love the food, diversity, and hard work (blah blah blah). I could basically pull some of these speeches out of my rear end. Only reason I actually considered it (other than the salary and it now being someone else's responsibility to get me to go out) is because I actually believe in expanding OHIP to include optometry and dental, and to stop loving privatizing everything. I actually bartended a fundraiser for the local federal NDP, and it was actually fun. Meeting actual leftists in this riding is kind of weird since it's not really a left-wing party (the actual labour movement left with the jobs a long time ago), but it was still fun. If it wasn't for the fact that a) the local NDP doesn't have a snowball's chance here because of the right-wing redneck and suburban 905 imports, and b) all the stuff I've said about how this town sucks, I'd run. Maybe I'll move somewhere and try again.
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Nov 30, 2016 16:38
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How naked of a lie can you tell without flinching? How vigorously can you defend that lie in the face of concrete evidence that it is in fact untrue? That's the real test of a person running for office.
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Nov 30, 2016 16:48
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Right now I can't think of any downside to rounding up right wing suburbanites into camps and suspending all their human rights
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Nov 30, 2016 16:50
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mojo1701a posted:If it wasn't for the fact that a) the local NDP doesn't have a snowball's chance here because of the right-wing redneck and suburban 905 imports, and b) all the stuff I've said about how this town sucks, I'd run. Our local federal candidate's campaign was, as best as I can tell, "I'm an Aboriginal woman." She may have made other statements at some point or other, and I know for a fact that she's worked hard to get this riding association up and running after a pretty limp showing in the election-before-last, but most of her talking opints seemed to revolve around her ethnicity and as a white guy it'd be only a matter of time before my rebuttals landed me in bigotland.
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Nov 30, 2016 16:52
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Mojo, run on "I said this town sucks, and I'm running to make it better". That said, you also need some notion of how to make it better that isn't "burn this motherfucker to the ground"
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Nov 30, 2016 16:54
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Nov 30, 2016 16:55
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infernal machines posted:How naked of a lie can you tell without flinching? How vigorously can you defend that lie in the face of concrete evidence that it is in fact untrue? work hard enough and you can be like Chris Alexander who is vying for Conservative leader
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Nov 30, 2016 17:02
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flakeloaf posted:Our local federal candidate's campaign was, as best as I can tell, "I'm an Aboriginal woman." She may have made other statements at some point or other, and I know for a fact that she's worked hard to get this riding association up and running after a pretty limp showing in the election-before-last, but most of her talking opints seemed to revolve around her ethnicity and as a white guy it'd be only a matter of time before my rebuttals landed me in bigotland. Not if you're a white bi guy.
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Nov 30, 2016 17:03
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infernal machines posted:Mojo, run on "I said this town sucks, and I'm running to make it better". I've also said on multiple occasions how much I hate "country" and all that rural culture crap. I'm toast. Also I'm trying to leave.
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Nov 30, 2016 17:13
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No point wasting a perfectly good pre-written speech.quote:The federal approval of the Kinder Morgan pipeline project shows that Christy Clark has failed to protect B.C.’s coast, says B.C. New Democrat Leader John Horgan. Postess with the Mostest fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Nov 30, 2016 |
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Nov 30, 2016 17:43
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Postess with the Mostest posted:No point wasting a perfectly good pre-written speech. Find+Replace is hard, okay?
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Nov 30, 2016 17:49
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It was prerecorded, probably a couple years ago.
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Has there been any articles about the implications of pipeline expansion on Canada's Paris agreement CO2 targets, additionally taking into account the carbon tax? I thought I saw an article headline a while back about how the impact of the carbon tax would be minor compared to the CO2 generated from pipeline expansion but I can't for the life of me find it. The government messaging portrays pipeline expansion and the carbon tax as if they're equal and opposite. I'm sure this is not the case.
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This came up in my news feed this morning and I thought it was worth pulling an excerpt and leaving it here. Doesn't particularly relate to anything that's been discussed here recently but in broad terms you could see it as another bit of data to be tossed in teh growing pile of "why is Canada's political class so awful?" This is taken from an article discussing the Democratic party and how it's going to react to it's unexpected defeat in 2016 but what's written here could be applied, broadly speaking, to a lot of Liberals and NDPers here in Canada. quote:Let me explain what I mean by reminding you what this form of liberalism looks like. Somewhere in a sunny corner of the country, either right now or very shortly, a group of tech tycoons or well-meaning private equity investors will meet to discuss what went wrong in this election cycle. They will consider many things: the sexism and racism of Trump voters, the fundamental foreignness of the flyover, the problems one encounters when dealing with evangelicals. They will celebrate some activist they learned about from NPR, they will enjoy some certified artisanal cuisine, they will hand out prizes to the same people that got prizes at the last event they attended, and they will go back to their comfortable rooms at the resort and sleep ever so soundly. The major difference here would be that unions are, on the balance, stronger in Canada than they are in the United States. They represent a larger share of the workforce and in some areas, like Ontario, they spend comparable amounts on elections to any business pressure group. However the truth is that with some exceptions the currently existing union movement largely represents public sector workers who often have more in common with the credentialed professionals than the average private sector worker. This is reflected by the fact that in Ontario most union spending actually goes to benefit the Liberal party. The end result is unions tending to be one of the more conservative forces within the NDP as well as one of the main pillars of support for awful Liberal governments like the OLP.
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Femtosecond posted:Has there been any articles about the implications of pipeline expansion on Canada's Paris agreement CO2 targets, additionally taking into account the carbon tax? I thought I saw an article headline a while back about how the impact of the carbon tax would be minor compared to the CO2 generated from pipeline expansion but I can't for the life of me find it. Yes, there's one that I know of. There's more in the article, but here's the gist of it: quote:Since signing the Paris Climate Accord, Trudeau has rolled out two high-profile climate policies. Both got heaps of praise in the media. But as the scorecard chart clearly shows, the actual reductions in Canada's climate pollution will be relatively small. http://www.nationalobserver.com/2016/11/24/opinion/opinion-trudeaus-carbon-tsunami-numbers e: it's worth mentioning that their calculations for carbon emissions are lifetime emissions, so they include both production/transport and the actual burning of the fuel by whoever purchases it after it gets shipped through the pipeline. You can make the argument that that fuel is going to be burned no matter what and that the buyer will just get their fuel from someone else if we don't sell it to them, and that these figures are a little inflated as a result because a lot of that CO2 won't be emitted by Canada in Canada and therefore shouldn't be counted against Trudeau. That's still a bad argument though. vyelkin fucked around with this message at 18:34 on Nov 30, 2016 |
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Nov 30, 2016 18:15
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The Toronto Star, Canada's largest circulation paper and basically the only major broadsheet newspaper that doesn't endorse the Conservatives at every election, put the story about Kinder Morgan getting approved on page 6 so that they could run a front page story about how the government isn't doing a good enough job helping the families of kidnapped Canadians.
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Nov 30, 2016 18:22
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I'm not sure what to think about the pipeline announcements. On the one hand, I think climate change is probably the premier threat facing our world, 2nd only to nuclear weapons. We absolutely need to make big changes, and even if we act now, we're still going to be in a lot of trouble. On the other hand, and especially with Trump getting in, I worry about the results of saying "gently caress you Alberta get another industry". Were there any serious counter proposals? Usually this thing is hand-waved away with renewable energy and green jobs with no specifics and no real basis. If there was some plan for massive wind farms in Alberta then at least that's an alternative, of a sort.
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Nov 30, 2016 18:26
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lol nuclear weapons what is this the 80s
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Nov 30, 2016 18:31
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Ontario Auditor General's report is out. Highlights from the Toronto Star so farquote:
I always thought that truss didn't look right.
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Nov 30, 2016 18:32
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Dreylad posted:Ontario Auditor General's report is out. Highlights from the Toronto Star so far Ontario is bad and corrupt. Let's elect the home schooled 19yr old giving opinions on parenting instead.
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Nov 30, 2016 18:34
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PK loving SUBBAN posted:Ontario is bad and corrupt. We're so lucky to live in a democracy where we get to choose our leaders! I'm very excited for the opportunity to choose between Corrupt Idiot A, Corrupt Idiot B, and Naive Idiot C
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Nov 30, 2016 18:37
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how about we just deal with mental health issues by forcing these people to live on the streets or in prison??
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Nov 30, 2016 18:39
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Federal Court Justice Robin Camp should be removed from bench, inquiry recommends
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Nov 30, 2016 18:40
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Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the Paris Climate Agreement completely non binding which means Canada can make a boatload of promises and later reneg on any and all of them without any repercussions except losing a little bit more of our nations laughable credibility? If that's actually the case then why do any of you talk about this climate agreement like it's worth more than the paper it's written on?
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EvilJoven posted:Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the Paris Climate Agreement completely non binding which means Canada can make a boatload of promises and later reneg on any and all of them without any repercussions except losing a little bit more of our nations laughable credibility? Yes its non-biding, and yes all countries involved promised these things with no enforcement mechanism. It is, however, a decent goal. If anything the goals should be more ambitious.
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Nov 30, 2016 18:53
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A lot of countries are going to start getting hit with climate change affected weather - are getting hit with climate change affected weather - sooner than others. China, India, and Brazil in particular have agricultural regions that are both very vulnerable to increased/decreased rainfall. So at some point self-interest kicks in, although if you want to despair and argue that it's already too late you can do that.
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Nov 30, 2016 19:03
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Dreylad posted:A lot of countries are going to start getting hit with climate change affected weather - are getting hit with climate change affected weather - sooner than others. China, India, and Brazil in particular have agricultural regions that are both very vulnerable to increased/decreased rainfall. So at some point self-interest kicks in, although if you want to despair and argue that it's already too late you can do that. yeah but self interest is for the rich, who will take their money and run to a non-vulnerable region
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Nov 30, 2016 19:05
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PiCwvbBlJs Canada is Scott Thompson, all the people are talking about climate change.
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Dreylad posted:Ontario Auditor General's report is out. Highlights from the Toronto Star so far This would read the same after a s/Ontario/Quebec/g. Can we stop saying Quebec is corrupt and inefficient? We hardly have a monopoly on this.
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Nov 30, 2016 19:11
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flakeloaf posted:If two years of university can bring Lynx and Lamb Gaede around, there's hope for anyone. That and smoking weed. Deadly combination if you're a bootstomping Christian Nazi propagandizing parent. There's a lot of hand-waving right now about the developing brain remaining plastic until the mid-twenties and possible impacts on it of smoking pot. In this case I'm not seeing a down side.
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Landsknecht posted:yeah but self interest is for the rich, who will take their money and run to a non-vulnerable region So? Faced with existential crisis, nation-states don't always curl up and die.
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Jan posted:Can we stop saying Quebec is corrupt and inefficient? We hardly have a monopoly on this. Has Quebec stopped being corrupt and inefficient?
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Nov 30, 2016 19:15
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We're just more open about it. Right now everyone is freaking out because courtroom delays could prevent Gilles Vaillancourt, the guy who ran Laval as his personal mafia kingdom for almost 40 years could go without trial.
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Nov 30, 2016 19:27
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you did it christy  https://twitter.com/Dave_Eby/status/803677662325522432 (seriously this was the most predictable consequence of only applying the tax on the lower mainland, jfc)
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Nov 30, 2016 19:27
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Postess with the Mostest posted:“Instead of doing the right thing for B.C., Christy Clark put our coast in the hands of the Harper government,” said Horgan. "You can't win, Justin. If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine." - Stephen J. Harper
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Nov 30, 2016 19:32
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Pinterest Mom posted:you did it christy I thought keeping track of those numbers was racist.
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Pinterest Mom posted:you did it christy We just wanted to spread the tuhao/fuerdai love around. Not fair for us to hog them all. Maybe now the residents of Prince George will have a chance to see a McLaren in person! (Blasting down their residential street at 150km/h.) The Butcher fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Nov 30, 2016 |
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Meanwhile, year-over-year from October 2015, the rental vacancy rate in Victoria dropped from 0.6% to 0.5%, and rents went up by 5.5%. That's a worse vacancy rate than downtown Vancouver or the City of Vancouver~ Country-wide, the rate is 3.4%. Powershift posted:I thought keeping track of those numbers was racist. ok
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Helsing posted:However the truth is that with some exceptions the currently existing union movement largely represents public sector workers who often have more in common with the credentialed professionals than the average private sector worker. This is reflected by the fact that in Ontario most union spending actually goes to benefit the Liberal party. The end result is unions tending to be one of the more conservative forces within the NDP as well as one of the main pillars of support for awful Liberal governments like the OLP.  hahahaha
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