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Gobias Ind. posted:So how is it more insulting than no pick at all? I don't know, I think my analogy fell apart halfway through.
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Dec 1, 2016 20:33
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I get what you are saying, but a 4th round draft pick isn't bad. Most draft picks are lottery tickets in general. Usually half of the first rounders are horrible picks. Other notable 4th rounders: Yadi! and Cliff Lee!
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Dec 1, 2016 20:39
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Thom P. Tiers posted:I get what you are saying, but a 4th round draft pick isn't bad. Most draft picks are lottery tickets in general. Usually half of the first rounders are horrible picks. I would totally watch that buddy cop movie
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Dec 1, 2016 21:29
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So it sounds like Cutch is going to the Nationals and they tell Espinosa not to let the door hit him on the way out?
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Dec 1, 2016 21:36
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I would assume they've been talking to people about moving Espinosa should this happen but if that can't be done, then they just let him go.
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Dec 1, 2016 21:41
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I was so confused as to what espinosa had to do with cutch and then I remembered trea turner existed.
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Dec 1, 2016 21:51
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If Cutch ends up going to the Nats at least there's the silver lining of a Werth-Cutch-Harper outfield being pretty loving bad defensively.
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Dec 1, 2016 22:04
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Julio Cruz posted:If Cutch ends up going to the Nats at least there's the silver lining of a Werth-Cutch-Harper outfield being pretty loving bad defensively. I don't see why they wouldn't keep Espinosa and let the outfield be Cutch-Turner-Harper and fire Werth into the sun. They're paying him 20 million a year to rehab and suck at baseball. Just eat the last year and win games. Or, release Espinosa and Werth and sign someone who doesn't suck at LF/RF or shortstop?
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Dec 1, 2016 22:22
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tadashi posted:I don't see why they wouldn't keep Espinosa and let the outfield be Cutch-Turner-Harper and fire Werth into the sun. They're paying him 20 million a year to rehab and suck at baseball. Just eat the last year and win games. Because Espinosa's offensive ceiling is like an ~80 wRC+ and Werth put up a 5 win season as recently as 2014.
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Dec 1, 2016 22:28
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ego symphonic posted:Because Espinosa's offensive ceiling is like an ~80 wRC+ and Werth put up a 5 win season as recently as 2014. Yeah, but he'll be 38 years old next year and 3 seasons removed from that kind of production. Also, he produced 1.9 bWAR in his first 2 years with the Nats, so his good years have become the outliers.
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Dec 1, 2016 22:32
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tadashi posted:Yeah, but he'll be 38 years old next year and 3 seasons removed from that kind of production. Also, he produced 1.9 bWAR in his first 2 years with the Nats, so his good years have become the outliers. All very true. I would argue that he's been productive when healthy, but you can't assume health when talking about a 38 year-old outfielder. Even so, I'd still rather bet on Werth recapturing a little bit of OBP magic than count on Danny Espinosa to contribute offensively.
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Dec 1, 2016 22:45
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Good God imagine a Nats team where both McCutcheon and Harper have bounced back. 
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Dec 1, 2016 23:45
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Braves just acquired Jaime Garcia from the Cards for prospects. I hate this trade, can't have players with girls names out there.
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Dec 2, 2016 00:10
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Eltoasto posted:Braves just acquired Jaime Garcia from the Cards for prospects. I hate this trade, can't have players with girls names out there. This makes me happy because no matter how broken he is, Garcia loving owns My Team every time.
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Dec 2, 2016 00:20
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Eltoasto posted:Braves just acquired Jaime Garcia from the Cards for prospects. I hate this trade, can't have players with girls names out there. Farewell, Hot-Me. I knew it was coming but I will still miss your surprisingly attractive 5 o'clock shadow.
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Dec 2, 2016 00:21
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https://twitter.com/ChrisCotillo/status/804466411326345217 Who is John Gant? Dexo fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Dec 2, 2016 |
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Dec 2, 2016 00:27
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Dexo posted:https://twitter.com/ChrisCotillo/status/804466411326345217 Pretty good AAAA relief pitching prospect with a good changeup and his delivery is weird (he stutter steps) Braves gave up three pretty top 30 org prospects for a one year rental. I don't like it at all.
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Dec 2, 2016 00:55
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Eh Dykstra isn't anything. Gant and Ellis are B prospects that have a shot but have probably hit the wall or won't make it as a starter.
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Dec 2, 2016 00:56
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Chris Coghlan is vindicated! https://twitter.com/sung_minkim/status/804466403008909312 https://twitter.com/sung_minkim/status/804471457019367424 But seriously thats real loving dumb
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Dec 2, 2016 00:57
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I would like the Jays to please plug one of the massive gaping cavernous holes in this team please.
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Dec 2, 2016 00:58
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Eltoasto posted:Eh Dykstra isn't anything. Gant and Ellis are B prospects that have a shot but have probably hit the wall or won't make it as a starter. Ellis was fine in AA but got lit up when he went to AAA this season
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Dec 2, 2016 01:01
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Dexo posted:Chris Coghlan is vindicated!
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Dec 2, 2016 01:04
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tadashi posted:So it sounds like Cutch is going to the Nationals and they tell Espinosa not to let the door hit him on the way out? He'll probably swing at the door and miss it before it hits him, too.
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Dec 2, 2016 01:10
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Move over Mets, Baseball has the new Rotation of AcesTM in the Braves: Tehran, Dickey, Colon, Foltynewicz, Garcia  For real though that's not a bad rotation and if the Braves actually do end up getting Sale, you could kick Foltynewicz out and have a solid as gently caress rotation.
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Dec 2, 2016 01:16
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Eltoasto posted:Braves just acquired Jaime Garcia from the Cards for prospects. I hate this trade, can't have players with girls names out there. Will the Cards be a 500 team this year?
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Dec 2, 2016 01:16
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Sydin posted:Move over Mets, Baseball has the new Rotation of AcesTM in the Braves: Tehran, Dickey, Colon, Foltynewicz, Garcia It's a ridiculous rotation and I love it, mostly since it is just a freakshow to buy time for the prospects to hopefully not bust.
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Dec 2, 2016 01:20
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Dexo posted:Chris Coghlan is vindicated! Jesus Christ he's such a gently caress up.
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Dec 2, 2016 01:36
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Chexoid posted:I would like the Jays to please plug one of the massive gaping cavernous holes in this team please. I'm expecting Adam Eaton any day now!!!
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Dec 2, 2016 02:02
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ScottyJSno posted:Will the Cards be a 500 team this year? I mean... they definitely should be an above .500 team. And if they aren't, something has gone terribly wrong. Why did Jaime Garcia being traded prompt this question?
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Dec 2, 2016 02:29
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Thom P. Tiers posted:I mean... they definitely should be an above .500 team. And if they aren't, something has gone terribly wrong. 1. He is a Not horrible lefty. 2. As far as I know the Cards have no other left handed options. 3. I am ignorant of the Cards Farm system. 4. I am a insufferable Cubs fan. 
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Dec 2, 2016 02:59
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The Cardinals picked up Jaime's cheap one year option this year specifically so they could trade him. He was never in the plans for 2017, as they have a ridiculous amount of starters to choose from. The Cardinals probably don't care that they don't have a lefty starter, as they didn't really have one in 2014 either. Matt Adams will most likely be on the move as well. I am extremely surprised the BRAVES of all teams traded for Jaime Garcia, though. Thought he would go to a contender needing some pitching depth. (And they have Marco Gonzalez, but he is probably perma-broke)
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Dec 2, 2016 03:04
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ScottyJSno posted:1. He is a Not horrible lefty. The Cards will pull like 3-4 guys you've never heard of out of their rear end and win 95 games. All you need to know about their farm system is that it is stocked to the brim with guys with silly, ridiculous names who will outperform even the most rosy of projections.
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Dec 2, 2016 03:06
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The 2016 Cardinals were plagued with injuries, hilariously bad defense, and one of the most dramatic regressions in pitching quality year-to-year I've seen in a long time. There was also that weird thing where they forgot how to play ball in Busch and had a losing home record. Yet they still finished 10 games over .500, went 9-10 vs the Cubs, and would have forced a tiebreaker for the second WC spot had the Dodgers managed to not absolutely poo poo themselves in just one of their games vs the Giants. Betting against the Cardinals competing is not a good bet.
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Dec 2, 2016 03:20
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goodbye jamie you were either very good or very bad
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Dec 2, 2016 03:52
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I like the trade for Garcia. The Braves need to let their young pitchers get a few more good years in the minors before starting to bring them up. Maybe teach Newcomb and Toussant how to throw strikes, and let Allard and Fried get another year under their belts to show that they are over their injuries. And that's not even scratching the surface with Soroka, Weigel, Anderson, Muller, Wentz and Jenkins all in the top 25.
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Dec 2, 2016 03:57
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The Garcia trade makes it even stranger that the Cubs didn't pick up the option for Hammel's final year and then trade him.
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Dec 2, 2016 04:06
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Sydin posted:The 2016 Cardinals were plagued with injuries, hilariously bad defense, and one of the most dramatic regressions in pitching quality year-to-year I've seen in a long time. There was also that weird thing where they forgot how to play ball in Busch and had a losing home record. Yet they still finished 10 games over .500, went 9-10 vs the Cubs, and would have forced a tiebreaker for the second WC spot had the Dodgers managed to not absolutely poo poo themselves in just one of their games vs the Giants. 2017 Cardinals have question marks at two major positions, 3B and CF. In theory they can stay with their current roster and have Gyorko at 3rd and Pham or Bader as the third outfielder. I think that's probably an 85-86 win team that's no real threat to the Cubs unless the pitching rebounds, specifically in Wainwright and Wacha. They have a lot of potential spare parts for trade but I don't know if they can get any real upgrades with them.
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Dec 2, 2016 04:10
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Scob posted:goodbye jamie you were either very good or very bad He's like Rich Harden. It's so weird.
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He was always one of my favorite Cardinals and it's a shame he always had shoulder pain. His home/away splits are pretty insane.
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