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Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Nog lusts after Sisko's approval really

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drilldo squirt
Aug 18, 2006

a beautiful, soft meat sack
Clapping Larry
Nogs a ferengi version of Worf except he's weeabooing on humans. The only alien I've seen that gets us in the tv show we all watch is quark.

shadow puppet of a
Jan 10, 2007

NO TENGO SCORPIO


Baronjutter posted:

Nog lusts after Sisko's approval really

Nog lusts for attention from any alpha male really

bloodychill
May 8, 2004

And if the world
should end tonight,
I had a crazy, classic life
Exciting Lemon

JediTalentAgent posted:

Everyone in DS9 is lusting after someone else. Bashir wants Dax, Jadzia wants Sisko, Kurzon wants Jadzia, Miles wants Bashir, Cardassian women want Miles, Odo wants Kira, Kira wants Bareil. Compared to the sexual tension of DS9, everyone on TNG and TOS were a bunch of eunuchs.

There's some article about how the lack of sexuality in most of Star Trek is why the show is popular with pedos

oh here is is http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ellen-ladowsky/pedophilia-and-star-trek_b_5857.html

TTerrible
Jul 15, 2005
TNG watch continues. Thought it was getting less weird but Picard just formally greeted two frozen fish people while wearing his captains dress.

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


TTerrible posted:

TNG watch continues. Thought it was getting less weird but Picard just formally greeted two frozen fish people while wearing his captains dress.

one of them is Mick Fleetwood

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

drilldo squirt posted:

Nogs a ferengi version of Worf except he's weeabooing on humans. The only alien I've seen that gets us in the tv show we all watch is quark.

I'd disagree. He never stops having some basic contempt for humans even though he's down with Starfleet.

bloodychill
May 8, 2004

And if the world
should end tonight,
I had a crazy, classic life
Exciting Lemon
After rewatching DS9 and Wynn's endlessly creepy relationship at the end that gets so much screen time, I'm pretty sure Ron Moore modeled every relationship in BSG after it.

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:

bloodychill posted:

After rewatching DS9 and Wynn's endlessly creepy relationship at the end that gets so much screen time, I'm pretty sure Ron Moore modeled every relationship in BSG after it.

Well there was the aspect of Wynn being such a terrible person she'd sleep with the enemy. Also Dukat loves those crinkled noses.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->
Oh good so right when both Wynn and Dukat are beginning to exhibit signs of character growth they ruin both apparently

drilldo squirt
Aug 18, 2006

a beautiful, soft meat sack
Clapping Larry

TTerrible posted:

TNG watch continues. Thought it was getting less weird but Picard just formally greeted two frozen fish people while wearing his captains dress.

Worf want's to bone them also.

UHD
Nov 11, 2006


Trast posted:

Well there was the aspect of Wynn being such a terrible person she'd sleep with the enemy. Also Dukat loves those crinkled noses.

I thought wynne stopped banging dukat when she figured out he was dukat

I don't remember it's been like a year since I marathoned ds9

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

bloodychill posted:

After rewatching DS9 and Wynn's endlessly creepy relationship at the end that gets so much screen time, I'm pretty sure Ron Moore modeled every relationship in BSG after it.

Season 7's move towards serialization by the end really didn't pan out that well. It's not that the individual stories got worse, but the sharp transition towards an ongoing plot rather than a continuity driven series of individual episodes meant that more time was spent with certain characters than necessary. I felt there were a lot of missed opportunities in the final few episodes, and some things just got weird. It also didn't help that they literally ran out of budget after doing Sisko and Dukat's dive into Mount Doom, so the entire final space battle was created out of stock footage from Sacrifice of Angels and the battle of Chin'Toka.

bloodychill
May 8, 2004

And if the world
should end tonight,
I had a crazy, classic life
Exciting Lemon
Agreed on all points.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->
Sounds like I should stop watching when Jadzia dies.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Fojar38 posted:

Sounds like I should stop watching when Jadzia dies.

No, a lot of Season 7 is still really drat good, and a lot of the stuff happening in the final serialization is great. It's just noticeably uneven after how thoroughly excellent seasons 4-6 are.

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT
TNG season 3, The Enemy. Worf refuses to save a guy's life. Picard is fine with this. Worf doesn't get kicked out of Starfleet. :mad:

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Also the baseball episode is in season 7.

shadow puppet of a
Jan 10, 2007

NO TENGO SCORPIO


Animal-Mother posted:

TNG season 3, The Enemy. Worf refuses to save a guy's life. Picard is fine with this. Worf doesn't get kicked out of Starfleet. :mad:

I think its a matter of all "First X In Starfleet" crew members getting a hell of a lot of leeway in order to preserve the ethos of the federation. You'd get in poo poo as a Captain just for sending a Worf-type to a disciplinary panel.

Nog probably went on to sell an entire ship later in his career when he found no specific rule against it and it sped up his journey through Sheliak space or something.

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

Animal-Mother posted:

TNG season 3, The Enemy. Worf refuses to save a guy's life. Picard is fine with this. Worf doesn't get kicked out of Starfleet. :mad:

That's... kind of a possible outcome of respecting bodily autonomy, yeah. It'd be highly hosed up if Starfleet was able to say "you have to submit to having your blood and other bodily fluids and tissues harvested at any time we deem necessary."

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl
Like, what violation exactly are you envisioning he'd be court-martialed over?

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Fojar38 posted:

Sounds like I should stop watching when Jadzia dies.

Ezri was a drat interesting idea. I mean, one day Ensign Ezri finished up her routine paperwork in the ship's computer and was thinking about what to do for dinner when word came in that the Dax symbiont was dying and since she was the only Trill on the ship, joining with it was the only way to save its life, and even though a Trill joining was like a thousand times as serious and permanent and life-changing as a marriage she said "Um... okay? I guess?" because it was the right thing to do, and the next thing she knew she wasn't just Ezri anymore, she was Ezri loving Dax and was a completely different person and had centuries of new memories and hadn't had any of the usual years of training that you go through before being joined and aaaaaaaaaaaaa how the hell do you even start to deal with that?

They got to explore a bit of this in the last season, but not in the depth it really deserved. I hate to say it since I rather liked Terry Farrell (and I thought she was great with Worf), but from a storytelling perspective it might have been better if Jadzia had died a few seasons earlier.

Fat Shat Sings
Jan 24, 2016
why do people not believe the relationship between kira and odo?


Odo had infinite dicks of any size. I'm not even gay but I'd consider it.

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!
The honeymoon between Kira and Odo starts to get a little shaky when she starts wanting him to look more like Bariel.

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

Odo has this whole unrequited love thing for Kira long before the show starts. He gets his girl then ditches her to "go be with my people" who he really hasn't much in common with at all. Weird.

Unless his thing is the chase and not the prize or she wasn't all that, what a waste of time. For him and the audience.

Rebel Blob
Mar 1, 2008

Extinction for our time

Where was her relationship with Odo at when she got pregnant with O'Brien's child?

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"
Blood Fever;

The Doctor teaches a Vulcan ensign how to gently caress holograms to work off his libido, while senior command officers encourage Tom Paris to bang B'elanna because she's been put under the influence of the Pon'Farr.

Nobody ever considers sedating either of them.

I did like the little stinger at the end of who the mysterious invaders were though The Borg! :awesomelon:

bloodychill
May 8, 2004

And if the world
should end tonight,
I had a crazy, classic life
Exciting Lemon
Making her crewman gently caress is one of Janeway's kinks.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

I'm a girl, and you're
gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.

Fojar38 posted:

Oh good so right when both Wynn and Dukat are beginning to exhibit signs of character growth they ruin both apparently

Not at all, both characters had several great seasons of character growth before it went to hell in the final arc.

Never forgot space pirate Dukat, the best Dukat.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"
The Darkling;

"We have a semi-interesting story idea of the Doctor turning evil as he tries to upgrade his own personality with traits from famous historical figures. How can we 'improve' on it?"

"Make it the B-Plot to a boring story about Kes trying to bone a space nomad, and have it come out of nowhere 2/3rds into the episode after a brief scene of weird unconscious habits with Torres about five minutes into the episode.".

lenoon
Jan 7, 2010

Got to the final 10 episodes of ds9 on my marathon run through and now saddened by the fact it's about to run out am starting at the beginning of next gen.

Holy poo poo I had forgotten how terrible season 1 is. So I just skipped to Darmok and watched that. Ha ha ha ... Gilgamesh

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

lenoon posted:

Got to the final 10 episodes of ds9 on my marathon run through and now saddened by the fact it's about to run out am starting at the beginning of next gen.

Holy poo poo I had forgotten how terrible season 1 is. So I just skipped to Darmok and watched that. Ha ha ha ... Gilgamesh

You skipped all the way to Season 5? Shaka, when the walls fell :sigh:.

Edje
Aug 31, 2006

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

Like, what violation exactly are you envisioning he'd be court-martialed over?

Also didn't the guy explicitly say he didn't want Worf's blood anyway?

lenoon
Jan 7, 2010

Neddy Seagoon posted:

You skipped all the way to Season 5? Shaka, when the walls fell :sigh:.

I'm going to go back, but after the first four I definitely needed something excellent to perk me up.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

lenoon posted:

I'm going to go back, but after the first four I definitely needed something excellent to perk me up.

Sokath, his eyes opened!

Sunswipe
Feb 5, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Powered Descent posted:

Ezri was a drat interesting idea. I mean, one day Ensign Ezri finished up her routine paperwork in the ship's computer and was thinking about what to do for dinner when word came in that the Dax symbiont was dying and since she was the only Trill on the ship, joining with it was the only way to save its life, and even though a Trill joining was like a thousand times as serious and permanent and life-changing as a marriage she said "Um... okay? I guess?" because it was the right thing to do, and the next thing she knew she wasn't just Ezri anymore, she was Ezri loving Dax and was a completely different person and had centuries of new memories and hadn't had any of the usual years of training that you go through before being joined and aaaaaaaaaaaaa how the hell do you even start to deal with that?

They got to explore a bit of this in the last season, but not in the depth it really deserved. I hate to say it since I rather liked Terry Farrell (and I thought she was great with Worf), but from a storytelling perspective it might have been better if Jadzia had died a few seasons earlier.

I don't dislike Ezri or the actress playing her, but I think it was a mistake to bring in a new character in the final season.

Edje posted:

Also didn't the guy explicitly say he didn't want Worf's blood anyway?

Yes.

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

Sunswipe posted:

I don't dislike Ezri or the actress playing her, but I think it was a mistake to bring in a new character in the final season.

"Hey DS9 remember how your science officer got murdered by an insane demi-god? Well guess what we're putting a person with all her memories and none of the qualifications back onto your station, I'm sure that won't be awkward at all!"

What the gently caress was Starfleet thinking sending Dax back to DS9? Don't you think that would gently caress with people's emotional trauma a little? Like 'my friend died and I'm trying to get over that but she's not -really- dead but sorta is and this new person remembers the times I creeped on her previous host' c'mon man.

MrSlam
Apr 25, 2014

And there you sat, eating hamburgers while the world cried.

shadow puppet of a posted:

Nog probably went on to sell an entire ship later in his career when he found no specific rule against it and it sped up his journey through Sheliak space or something.

He could probably cite Voyager as a precedent for Starfleet working as mercenaries. I can't recall but I'm sure Janeway did that at one point.

CharlieWhiskey
Aug 18, 2005

everything, all the time

this is the world

MA-Horus posted:

"Hey DS9 remember how your science officer got murdered by an insane demi-god? Well guess what we're putting a person with all her memories and none of the qualifications back onto your station, I'm sure that won't be awkward at all!"

What the gently caress was Starfleet thinking sending Dax back to DS9? Don't you think that would gently caress with people's emotional trauma a little? Like 'my friend died and I'm trying to get over that but she's not -really- dead but sorta is and this new person remembers the times I creeped on her previous host' c'mon man.

The precedent was set by giving Picard his command back after Wolf 359. "Oh, you were physically, mentally, and emotionally comprimised by a foreign cybernetic force? Just tussle your nephew's hair, have a glass of wine, and a wrestle with your brother and we'll all just pretend this never happened!"

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Sweaty IT Nerd
Jul 13, 2007

Automatic Slim posted:

Odo has this whole unrequited love thing for Kira long before the show starts. He gets his girl then ditches her to "go be with my people" who he really hasn't much in common with at all. Weird.

Unless his thing is the chase and not the prize or she wasn't all that, what a waste of time. For him and the audience.

Odo is changeling Jeuss tho and has to go fix them.

Sticking around to watch a solid you love get weak and die doesn't sound that great either.

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