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How does the whole voting and ranking thing in Jump work?
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Dec 2, 2016 03:12
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Mraagvpeine posted:How does the whole voting and ranking thing in Jump work? Read Bakuman. But basically, the series that get more reader votes are generally placed at the front of the magazine, while the series that are lagging behind, are placed in the back. The exceptions are if they're a big long-time runner like Kochikame was, or still selling well in merchandise and volumes, so they can sit anywhere, and not be canceled. Bleach was sorta like that in its last two years, where everybody knew it was ending and dying so it was always in the back, but it was still making enough profit that they could let that final arc drag on and on. Series on the verge of ending tend to be in the back in general, hence me correctly assuming Toriko was in its final phases even though I don't read Toriko, because it kept showing up at the bottom on a consistent weekly basis. EDIT: Other fun facts, covers and color pages are generally discounted from rankings. Color pages tend to be used for promoting the series, so if a series gets a color page consistently, that generally means Jump's heavily pushing it, which happened with MHA and Black Clover. Allarion fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Dec 2, 2016 |
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Dec 2, 2016 04:04
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And how quickly does the magazine process the votes to determine the ranking?
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Dec 2, 2016 04:15
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There's a survey every week, and the results basically come 8 weeks later.
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Dec 2, 2016 04:47
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Allarion posted:Read Bakuman. But basically, the series that get more reader votes are generally placed at the front of the magazine, while the series that are lagging behind, are placed in the back. The exceptions are if they're a big long-time runner like Kochikame was, or still selling well in merchandise and volumes, so they can sit anywhere, and not be canceled. Bleach was sorta like that in its last two years, where everybody knew it was ending and dying so it was always in the back, but it was still making enough profit that they could let that final arc drag on and on. Series on the verge of ending tend to be in the back in general, hence me correctly assuming Toriko was in its final phases even though I don't read Toriko, because it kept showing up at the bottom on a consistent weekly basis. All this, with the caveat that the Jump Editor in Chief (I think. Or at least someone high up in the Shueisha chain.) has final say on the order of series. So the EiC could if they wanted to put lagging series higher than they got by votes, although there's been no confirmation that this ever happened. I think I heard some rumors that Kuroko's Basket was in that position once, but nothing concrete.
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Dec 2, 2016 05:11
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it is a system meant to cultivate mega-hits rather than a stable stable of moderately successful series. so, for things that flop right from the start like amalgam there is very little chance they will ever climb the rankings before they are cancelled.
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Dec 2, 2016 05:24
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:it is a system meant to cultivate mega-hits rather than a stable stable of moderately successful series. so, for things that flop right from the start like amalgam there is very little chance they will ever climb the rankings before they are cancelled. Yeah they're always churning through new series looking for the next hit. There's all sorts of other politics involving the number of action or romance series that can be supported by polls at any given time. IIRC, you only get to rank your top three favorite series in the survey, so like if there are already three smash hit action series that appeal to the same general demographic, it will be much, much harder to get a good ranking with something that is trying to aim for the same group. Read Bakuman it's good.
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Dec 2, 2016 06:18
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Caveat: Not everything Bakuman says is true or is still true even if it was true before
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Dec 2, 2016 06:34
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sj doesn't strictly follow the rankings, but the specifics are rarely made public. plus, bakuman was published years ago so even the stuff it was completely accurate about may not be true now. beaten.
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Dec 2, 2016 06:39
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How's Kimetsu no Yaiba doing? Speaking of which, I should go catch up! I'm a few months behind!
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Dec 2, 2016 06:54
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Kimetsu no Yaiba seems fine. Never at the bottom, and always hanging around. Sometimes even pops up near the top. Anyways, rankings give a decent idea on the health of a series. Red Sprite started low, stayed low, and now it's dead. Basically if it's consistently near the bottom, especially if it's a new series, it probably won't last long. This has been true for all the other canceled new series too.
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Dec 2, 2016 07:00
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Allarion posted:Kimetsu no Yaiba seems fine. Never at the bottom, and always hanging around. Sometimes even pops up near the top. Anyways, rankings give a decent idea on the health of a series. Red Sprite started low, stayed low, and now it's dead. Basically if it's consistently near the bottom, especially if it's a new series, it probably won't last long. This has been true for all the other canceled new series too. Good to hear about Yaiba. I never picked it up after the Jump Start, but it seemed promising and MS' Authors Comments had them saying "Thanks for the support" last week or so which I'd come to associate with the end of a series. EDIT: Speaking of which I just read this week's and Oda went to lunch with Shimabukuro and Kishimoto. I guess they just weren't close but Oda completely ignoring Bleach's end while celebrating Naruto and Toriko is endlessly funny to me.
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Dec 2, 2016 07:14
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What is Kishimoto doing nowadays?
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Dec 2, 2016 07:27
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aside from reconnecting with his estranged family? writing lots of stories about estranged dads, mostly.
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Dec 2, 2016 07:31
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Next time on demons plan Spoilers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4KROpdUkrM
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Dec 2, 2016 09:15
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:aside from reconnecting with his estranged family? writing lots of stories about estranged dads, mostly. But I thought Boruto was being written by somebody else.
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Dec 2, 2016 12:07
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Cipher Pol 9 posted:Good to hear about Yaiba. I never picked it up after the Jump Start, but it seemed promising and MS' Authors Comments had them saying "Thanks for the support" last week or so which I'd come to associate with the end of a series.
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Dec 2, 2016 16:36
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when you see those jump ranking lists its just a list of the table of contents and probably isnt correct most of the time
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Dec 2, 2016 16:40
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Fabricated posted:I've heard that Oda's contract with Jump is a lot less favorable to him than Kubo's was due to how long ago it was made and the terms he accepted vs what Kubo did. seems like he would have renegotiated it by now anyway
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Dec 2, 2016 16:41
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Law Cheetah posted:when you see those jump ranking lists its just a list of the table of contents and probably isnt correct most of the time And yet stuff that is consistently in the back gets cancelled. So for the purpose of predicting which series are doing well enough to continue or will soon get the axe, it's perfectly fine.
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Dec 2, 2016 16:59
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Slime posted:But I thought Boruto was being written by somebody else. It might be like Toriyama with DB Super. Provide a few broad plot points and some character designs, but leave the finer details to others.
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Dec 2, 2016 18:00
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Boruto is being written by someone else. Well. Once they stop just redoing the movie it will be. Kishi I think was involved in the movie's plot. But past that it's all the assistant that took over.
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Dec 2, 2016 18:03
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If you're a fan of adventure you need to be reading Pygmalio. It is a shoujo manga but it's on par with the pinnacle of shonen adventure manga. http://bato.to/comic/_/comics/pygmalio-r2957
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Dec 2, 2016 22:35
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http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/12/01/welcome-to-the-ballroom-gets-back-on-the-dance-floor-next-month biggest news of the year
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Dec 3, 2016 00:25
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Kengan Asura continues to be pretty entertaining in its quest to portray the world's most out-of-his-depth (or is he???) man.
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Dec 3, 2016 17:49
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the art style works so well for it
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Dec 3, 2016 19:15
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Sharkopath posted:http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/12/01/welcome-to-the-ballroom-gets-back-on-the-dance-floor-next-month
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Dec 4, 2016 08:31
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HenryEx posted:Kengan Asura continues to be pretty entertaining in its quest to portray the world's most out-of-his-depth (or is he???) man. Yamashita is the true main character of the story, not Ohma.
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So for Kengan, we can guess on who wins what. First Round: Fight 1: Boss burger guy (why not?) Fight 2: Wakasa Life guy Fight 3: Clearly the Kure Fight 4: Ohma of course Fight 5: United Clothing Guy Fight 6: Sawada for some reason Fight 7: Muteba Fight 8: OUR BOY SEKIBAYASHI JUN Fight 9: Fishery Guy Fight 10: Gold Pleasure Guy Fight 11: RIHITO Fight 12: Kiyru Fight 13: Hatsumi Fight 14: Don't really care but Jouh Guy Fight 15: Kaneda Fight 16: The Fang of course Second Round: Fight 1: Wakasha guy again Fight 2: Ohma so he can score hawt Kure booty later Fight 3: Sawada Again Fight 4: Muteba and he does something nasty to Sekibayashi Fight 5: Gold pleasure guy Fight 6: Rihitos gonna probably die to Kiyru Fight 7: Hatsumi again Fight 8: Fang Quarter Finals: Fight 1: Ohma Fight 2: Muteba Fight 3: Kiyru Fight 4: Hatsumi upsets the Fang Semi Finals: Fight 1: Ohma brutally wrecks muteba Fight 2: Kiyru Finals: Ohma Just my guesses.
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Dec 4, 2016 21:29
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Adam Dudley is taking it all the way to the top.
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Dec 4, 2016 22:47
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To you, The Immortal aka "Fumetsu no Anata" is really cool you guys. Don't know if people talked about it in this thread, but go check it out. It's weird, but the good kind of weird.
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Dec 5, 2016 02:39
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new kengan asura chapter is out
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Dec 8, 2016 16:15
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the first match and it is already featuring the protagonist
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Dec 8, 2016 16:19
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:the first match and it is already featuring the protagonist Yeah, i can't wait for him to clown on FUCKboi.
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Dec 8, 2016 16:51
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I believe in Adam.
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Dec 8, 2016 17:49
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i hadn't given the tournament a thought because the manga is so japan based but lol at all the world leaders being there since the world economy might go tits up
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Dec 8, 2016 22:18
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i think they just wanted to draw caricatures of world leaders
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Dec 8, 2016 23:42
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Well it is supposed to be baki for a new generation.
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Dec 9, 2016 00:41
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Dudley needs to run the table.
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Dec 9, 2016 03:25
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Yamashita's gonna end up the new Chairman, mark my words.
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