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for the same reasons i vote / donate / volenteer (once, before the orange crush  dam u mulcare) for the socalists up here; i like having one country cutthroat capitalist where ill move to when i have some innovative idea to start or whatever and one country where i can kick the can down the road and be lasy as gently caress and chill
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canadian trumpism would suck anyhow; it would be alot of beating up naatives and chinese I guess? and i like both of em only way it has a chance is like all the refugees rape terrorize and pillage or whatever OR even worse it would be anti american trumpism  fatbacks comin over the border gotta build a wall
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loquacius posted:Trying to figure out what this post is in response to other than "the existence of progressives", comin up short so far thats just it. idk if you remember but this guy harangued the old bernie thread and got laughed out a bunch of times just because of "progressives exists." he's here to scoff at your idealism and mock bernie in way of hillary b-but he also had a celebrity endorsement that meant nothing too!!1  as a concern troll that Bernie is just like a centrist democrat with wonk policies and isn't passionate about reaching the working class.
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Baloogan posted:for the same reasons i vote / donate / volenteer (once, before the orange crush ill make the wiki
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http://freebeacon.com/blog/clinton-campaign-blames-james-comey-for-losing/quote:Two weeks before Election Day.
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bump_fn posted:ill make the wiki lol way ahead of u
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i enjoyed this fan fiction and it was not at the mcdonalds drive thru
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I think this is the same guy who wrote a 7 part fanfiction about a contested GOP convention the week before Indiana went Trump and everyone conceded
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fits my needs posted:I thought Bernie's minority outreach consisting of using Killer Mike to shill for him was pretty transparent and rang hollow. Not to mention most Run the Jewels fans are affluent white college kids. When the George Clooneys and Katie Perrys of the world are slobbering over Hillary Clinton's ladyjunk, you gotta take what you can get. Killer Mike, Susan Sarandon and Sarah Silverman... In all seriousness, I wouldn't be surprised if democrats learned nothing and still managed to fail their way upwards back into the white house in 4 or 8 years. In 2004 dem's thought they needed a red state moderate and they won with Barack Obama. In 2012 republicans said they needed to soften up on minorities and they get Donald "Mexican's are rapists" Trump in the white house. The next democratic president could win while still running a campaign liberal smugness and making GBS threads on rural America as long as they get higher turnout in the cities...of course that does dick-all for the house and senate. I guess what I'm trying to say is...nothing matters.
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With that logic the dnc might try to put up a Lieberman while a literal communist wins everything
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GlyphGryph posted:You gotta run both, the first to make them not want to vote Trump, and the second to undermine the reasons they DO want to vote Trump. Just adding more stuff to the bad pile is never gonna counteract the goods, which weigh more - you gotta attack his strengths too and make him weak enough his weaknesses can bring him down when they are attacked as well Agreed.
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Joementum posted:Meanwhile, Senate Democrats are laser focused on the real problem in America: Hamilton tickets. TBH that's a good idea (I haven't seen the details of the bill so I'll reserve judgement on whether it is actually a good bill). But of course they put it in terms of Hamilton instead of concerts or football tickets.
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Nichael posted:What do you do if you can't find meetings for your state senate or state representative district? Because unless I'm looking in the wrong places, I'm not seeing anything about Democrats in my part of Delaware having meetings like this. This seems to be a common experience and it's bullshit. If you know which Representative District you're in, you might be able to find the next meeting here: http://www.deldems.org/upcoming-events You might even go to a different RD meeting if it's close enough, just to get an idea of what's going on and what meetings are like.
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:With that logic the dnc might try to put up a Lieberman while a literal communist wins everything If we're going to live in a totalitarian surveillance state, we should at least have the simple pleasure of watching CEOs have their corporations nationalized. Literal Communist 2020!
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Joementum posted:Meanwhile, Senate Democrats are laser focused on the real problem in America: Hamilton tickets. even still, its a good move. gently caress scalpers
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Thoguh posted:TBH that's a good idea (I haven't seen the details of the bill so I'll reserve judgement on whether it is actually a good bill). But of course they put it in terms of Hamilton instead of concerts or football tickets. kind of surprising Dems want to get middle men out of ticket sales when they required everyone to buy healthcare from middlemen.
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comingafteryouall posted:kind of surprising Dems want to get middle men out of ticket sales when they required everyone to buy healthcare from middlemen. universal healthcare is not a right on the other hand you just have to see hamilton it's so good
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Tatum Girlparts posted:which is gonna be just great because while I agree gently caress them when they try to act like being anti-Israel is being anti-Jew, they're also about the only major group who were willing to say poo poo like 'hey Trump is surrounding himself with neo-nazis' at first. So yea, glad they're gonna probably fade away and then the only major advocate for Jewish people will be...I dunno some just purely pro-Israel group I guess. Nah, it's going to be actively conservative groups like the Zionist Organization of America, which has close ties to Adelson and has actively praised Bannon. The ADL's demise is vastly overstated though. The reason Schumer felt comfortable ignoring their condemnation of Ellison is that they'd been okay with Ellison for over a week before their abrupt about-face. The context for their sudden turnaround isn't just the tape - that's just an excuse. The problem is that the ADL deeply prizes its non-partisan reputation, which has already been under assault for some time. Pro-Israel groups with conservative leanings or donors, like ZOA, have spent the last month or two accusing the ADL of being left-wing shills who in the tank for Hillary, because of the ADL's willingness to call out Trump and Bannon. Most of the other non-partisan pro-Israel groups have been pointedly avoiding saying anything about Trump for fear that he's too polarizing and prominent to touch without getting dragged into partisanship; in fact, AIPAC got burned by that early in the campaign. Now the right has been carrying out an organized campaign to delegitimize the ADL, claiming that they backed a Muslim Brotherhood conspirator while demonizing the most pro-Israel cabinet member ever. Two days ago, the ADL started a big PR blitz to push back against the right-wing delegitimization campaign, and condemning someone on the left in order to demonstrate that they're not just anti-GOP is almost certainly part of that.
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comingafteryouall posted:kind of surprising Dems want to get middle men out of ticket sales when they required everyone to buy healthcare from middlemen. Hamiltion heals the sick
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Thoguh posted:TBH that's a good idea (I haven't seen the details of the bill so I'll reserve judgement on whether it is actually a good bill). But of course they put it in terms of Hamilton instead of concerts or football tickets.
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i keep thinking u guys are talking about william hamilton and its confusing
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bump_fn posted:i keep thinking u guys are talking about william hamilton and its confusing we're talking about the video game Doom actually
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comingafteryouall posted:kind of surprising Dems want to get middle men out of ticket sales when they required everyone to buy healthcare from middlemen. our healthcare system is so hosed that the only way to fix it is to make it so bad that the public will have no choice but to allow the government to step in and say "medicare for all!" and BOOM! universal healthcare baby steps
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I sat in on a state Dem party organizing call today. Someone brought up Pantsuit Nation and asked if the state party would build them an organizing site without really explaining why. I think they just wanted a nicer message board to post on than Facebook while being catered to. "You know, we just need a website so we can get the Pantsuit Nation involved to let them find information on democratic groups and they can make posts about stuff!"
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bump_fn posted:i keep thinking u guys are talking about william hamilton and its confusing brb writing a broadway musical about the quaternion group
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jerry seinfel posted:I sat in on a state Dem party organizing call today. Someone brought up Pantsuit Nation and asked if the state party would build them an organizing site without really explaining why. I think they just wanted a nicer message board to post on than Facebook while being catered to. Did you suggest Something Awful dot com as a great place for organizing?
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tadashi posted:Did you suggest Something Awful dot com as a great place for organizing? hell yeah i did jk i kept my phone on mute and i'm waiting on them to send out volunteer forms. posting on the internet aint do poo poo
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I wanna be the very best, like no one ever was. To catch them is my real test, to train them is my cause. I will travel across the land, searching far and wide. Teach Pokemon to understand that Bernie would have won.
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jerry seinfel posted:I sat in on a state Dem party organizing call today. Someone brought up Pantsuit Nation and asked if the state party would build them an organizing site without really explaining why. I think they just wanted a nicer message board to post on than Facebook while being catered to. what everyone really needs to know is that state & local parties are almost always terrible
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greatn posted:I wanna be the very best, like no one ever was. To catch them is my real test, to train them is my cause. I will travel across the land, searching far and wide. Teach Pokemon to understand that Bernie would have won. Herman? Herman Cain? Is that you?
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Concerned Citizen posted:what everyone really needs to know is that state & local parties are almost always terrible Yeah they sent out invitations to this onboarding call (and one at 8pm tonight and one at noon Saturday) last night. Almost a month after a horrible electoral loss and after people were at their most pissed off. It was radio silence from them for weeks. Maybe they were prepping for things to have volunteers do but they should have been looping people in while doing that.
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WarMECH posted:Herman? Herman Cain? Is that you? Herman! Herman, it's Marvin. Your cousin, Marvin Cain! You know that new sound you were looking for? Well, listen to this! *points phone at greatn's post*
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Here I come, rougher than the rest of them, the best of them, tougher than leather. You can call me Bernie. I'm not in a gurney, yeah you chuckle. I'd rather flex my muscles.
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Concerned Citizen posted:what everyone really needs to know is that state & local parties are almost always terrible It's like the Democratic party is so focused on national politics, they gave up on states and local elections years ago. Related: https://twitter.com/RalstonReports/status/804771237981392896 tldr: Do the goddamn work. I think it's still going to be hard for Democrats because state and local GOPs are supported by chambers of commerce and industry-specific associations. They're enfranchised and organized by default. They have huge advantages to get their candidates elected and get their policies pushed. tadashi has issued a correction as of 20:47 on Dec 2, 2016 |
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lmao https://twitter.com/cascamike/status/804430996619853825
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I like this little article: http://theweek.com/articles/664828/hillary-clinton-blew-most-winnable-election-modern-american-history-fault quote:Let's start with the truly inexplicable (and underreported) way Clinton spent the crucial month of August. She'd just come off a highly successful Democratic convention and acceptance speech that produced a significant bounce in the polls. Instead of building on that momentum, she … disappeared, taking an enormous amount of time off the campaign trail less than three months from Election Day. Oh sure, she held frequent fundraisers to small groups of wealthy Democrats, where she placed large numbers of voters in a "basket of deplorables" and ultimately raked in the enormous one-month sum of $143 million.
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i remember when the NYT article came out talking about Clinton disappearing for a month to hang out at billionaire fundraisers and her supporters were convinced that it was Good Clinton Strategy
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LinYutang posted:i remember when the NYT article came out talking about Clinton disappearing for a month to hang out at billionaire fundraisers and her supporters were convinced that it was Good Clinton Strategy it did a good job of getting a message across to voters. "gently caress you if you don't have money"
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comingafteryouall posted:it did a good job of getting a message across to voters. "gently caress you if you don't have money" 
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