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I think what we can infer from 2016 is "don't run antisocial goobers for President, it never ends well"
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Thoguh posted:TBH that's a good idea (I haven't seen the details of the bill so I'll reserve judgement on whether it is actually a good bill). But of course they put it in terms of Hamilton instead of concerts or football tickets. Yeah bots buying up tickets have really ruined the gently caress out of ticket purchasing at the Houston Rodeo every year when they announce their lineup, so I would love to see this poo poo happen.
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Alter Ego posted:I think what we can infer from 2016 is "don't run antisocial goobers for President, it never ends well" no you don't get it, she's a "wonk" Does it count as primary salt if I talk about the time somebody on my Facebook feed reposted a thinkpiece about how everyone needed to stop criticizing the "wonkosphere" for being so pro-Clinton? Because I thought that was super pretentious, and if I, the most pretentious dude on the planet, think that about something it's gotta be pretty bad
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AngryBooch posted:I like this little article: I appreciated some of those ads they are talking about it. My son just turned 2 whether Trump gets 4 or 8 years, he is going to be the first president that he remembers. Call me a lazy parent but life is already hosed up enough as it is, I would have relished the chance to not have to explain to him at some point why it's ok for the president to grab some pussy, but that he shouldn't do it. But then again, to me and everyone on this board you're already preaching to the choir. It's also hard to judge whether those TV ads were a failure or not. I think Hillary actually did flip a lot of moderate republicans in Philly and the suburbs, which is what those ads were intended to do. In my county Trump ran about 6 or 7 points behind Toomey who didn't have that kind baggage. The voter apathy was her biggest problem, if she had turned out more black voters in Philadelphia, Flint, Detroit and whatever cities you Wisconsinites have, we'd be talking about the death throes of the GOP today instead. The Nastier Nate has issued a correction as of 21:21 on Dec 2, 2016 |
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loquacius posted:no you don't get it, she's a "wonk" i'm friends with lots of poli-sci grad students and they're still in muted shock over how little their accumulated knowledge matters 💀 💀
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"the zeros in trump's social security plan don't add up! look at the zeros! look at them!!!!"
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UHD posted:seems like a good rule in presidential campaigns is "don't poo poo on the electorate" Also "Tell people why they should vote for you". Telling them the other guy's not a good deal is smart, but you still need to convince them to make the effort to come out and actually vote for you (or bother marking a name for the president part of the ballot, in some cases).
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LinYutang posted:i'm friends with lots of poli-sci grad students and they're still in muted shock over how little their accumulated knowledge matters 💀 💀 I'm a historian and I coulda told them that  
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UHD posted:seems like a good rule in presidential campaigns is "don't poo poo on the electorate" I've heard this get repeated a ton but didn't Trump poo poo on the entire minority sector of the electorate?
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The Nastier Nate posted:I appreciated some of those ads they are talking about it. My son just turned 2 whether Trump gets 4 or 8 years, he is going to be the first president that he remembers. You have a Netflix subscription? Just put "The West Wing" on a continuous loop till he's about 10 
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Alter Ego posted:You have a Netflix subscription? Just put "The West Wing" on a continuous loop till he's about 10 Nooooooooo we don't need another generation of Eichenwald's and Dunham
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Alter Ego posted:You have a Netflix subscription? Just put "The West Wing" on a continuous loop till he's about 10 yeah that won't make him insufferable at all
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Well What Now posted:yeah that won't make him insufferable at all I'd rather have my kid grow up listening to Trump rather than Aaron Sorkin.
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zegermans posted:I've heard this get repeated a ton but didn't Trump poo poo on the entire minority sector of the electorate? yes but republicans aren't interested in expanding their base so they can poo poo on minorities all day long and it doesn't change anything
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zegermans posted:I've heard this get repeated a ton but didn't Trump poo poo on the entire minority sector of the electorate? So hard he improved on Romney's numbers with every minority group
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LinYutang posted:i'm friends with lots of poli-sci grad students and they're still in muted shock over how little their accumulated knowledge matters 💀 💀 Do you mean in the sense that all of what they know is wrong, or in the sense that no one actually pays attention to people like them? Because the first would be a drastic overreaction (especially given that many of the Clinton campaign's failures came from ignoring pretty basic poli-sci stuff) and the second is pure lol-worthy naivete.
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lmao if you're not raising your kids based on a strict training regime of public speaking classes, communist propaganda, 2008 Obama speeches, and 2 Broke Girls to create the perfect storm politician of the future
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The Nastier Nate posted:if she had turned out more black voters in Philadelphia, Flint, Detroit and whatever cities you Wisconsinites have, we'd be talking about the death throes of the GOP today instead. If Clinton had won the Republicans would still control the House, the Senate, most statehouses, and most governorships. The GOP would still be a totally viable party if Trump had lost. The presidency isn't the only office that matters.
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zegermans posted:I've heard this get repeated a ton but didn't Trump poo poo on the entire minority sector of the electorate? He shat on undocumented immigrants. Which by definition aren't part of the electorate.
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CubsWoo posted:So hard he improved on Romney's numbers with every minority group How did Clinton's numbers compare to the last white person that ran though, there was expected to be a bit of a dip in comparison to the first minority president.
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CubsWoo posted:So hard he improved on Romney's numbers with every minority group The difference is that Romney was running against Obama, who had an obvious advantage over Clinton in that he had not been poisoned in the primary by the coward Bernie Sanders (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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loquacius posted:The difference is that Romney was running against Obama, who had an obvious advantage over Clinton in that he had not been poisoned in the primary by the coward Bernie Sanders lol
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CubsWoo posted:So hard he improved on Romney's numbers with every minority group trump discovered the integer overflow error of our electoral system
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bernie sanders ruined hillarys chanced by running in the primary, said a bunch of people who were paid to write hit pieces about a dude that ran against 17 people in a presidential primary and still won
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zegermans posted:How did Clinton's numbers compare to the last white person that ran though, there was expected to be a bit of a dip in comparison to the first minority president. I have not been able to find exit polls that actually compare raw numbers of votes. All I can find is percentages. He didn't necessarily improve on Romney if what happened was less Democrats in a specific demographic showed up.
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zegermans posted:Eh I guess at this point what difference does it make Mostly, get those people to show up next time. That's all I've got.
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we should not dwell on what-ifs now is the time to look to the future katy perry
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zegermans posted:How did Clinton's numbers compare to the last white person that ran though, there was expected to be a bit of a dip in comparison to the first minority president. Could only find exist poll data:  She seems to be just above Kerry with blacks, and blew him up with the latinos. Overall, she seems to have done as well as Gore, with latinos making up for the white losses. I'd love to know why latinos evidently decided not to vote in 2004. Also, why asians weren't included in this.
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I think we all know who is REALLY at fault here https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/12/02/yes-you-can-blame-millennials-for-hillary-clintons-loss/
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Mister Fister posted:I think we all know who is REALLY at fault here Goddamn snake people.
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Mister Fister posted:I think we all know who is REALLY at fault here 
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Alter Ego posted:I think what we can infer from 2016 is "don't run antisocial goobers for President, it never ends well" My presidential hopes, dashed One day this last glass ceiling will be broken 
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Mister Fister posted:I think we all know who is REALLY at fault here Can we start treating people who complain about millennials the same way all spiteful geriatrics get treated? I just want it to be socially acceptable to never take anything they say seriously and talk down to them with the same tone most people have when talking to someone with Alzheimer's.
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huh its almost like the today's left is a parody of itself because of irony poisoning and they're folded into it that they're no longer self conscious of said irony because they're too busy self-aggrandizing their brand of witty snark that serves to exclude rather than include, which is also another irony folded into the clusterfuck that results in the loss of identifying the "true" left without each version of leftists busy trying to smugly lay down sick burns on each other instead of actually doing poo poo to unify to a common cause like maybe the disappearing middle class and transforming our energy system which is why progressivism is the light, inshallah.
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Atrocious Joe posted:My presidential hopes, dashed we had an anti-social goober as president only forty five years ago.
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Lastgirl posted:huh its almost like the today's left is a parody of itself because of irony poisoning and they're folded into it that they're no longer self conscious of said irony because they're too busy self-aggrandizing their brand of witty snark that serves to exclude rather than include, which is also another irony folded into the clusterfuck that results in the loss of identifying the "true" left without each version of leftists busy trying to smugly lay down sick burns on each other instead of actually doing poo poo to unify to a common cause like maybe the disappearing middle class and transforming our energy system which is why progressivism is the light, inshallah. altneratively kill anyone with a podcast some bitter losses but gains overall
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Leftist infighting has been a thing forever like half the communist manifesto was sick burns on other socialists the bolsheviks were named after a party split tadashi posted:It's like the Democratic party is so focused on national politics, they gave up on states and local elections years ago. the militant, well organized union that's strong in las vegas also helped turn Nevada blue. they're the ones that actually do the work
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