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Party Plane Jones posted:Pilot was the airline owner, only had one plane, on the verge of bankruptcy. The airline has also been suspended (obviously).
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Who would've guessed an unknown airline in a developing country leasing two planes from a failed airline in a country where they can't consistently stock loving toilet paper in supermarkets, might cut corners. Hoo boy am I ever surprised, I'll tell you what.
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Shortly before the flight the First Officer was replaced with a well-connected model who, while she carried a private pilot license, was not type-rated and had never co-piloted before.
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Oh sweet holy gently caress. It's just a parade of terrible choices, isn't it?
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If you tried to sell this as a made for TV movie, the script would get rejected for being too unrealistic.
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I assume Donald Trump has already tried to nominate the airline owner for Secretary of Transportation.
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azflyboy posted:I assume Donald Trump has already tried to nominate the airline owner for Secretary of Transportation. I was going to say something about how it was still 2016 so I don't know why people are surprised by any of this. We are in the worst alternate timeline.
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Godholio posted:We are in the worst alternate timeline. All other timelines ended in nuclear fire. We are in the best timeline by default.
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Platystemon posted:All other timelines ended in nuclear fire. Hooray we survived!!!  Hooray we survived... 
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Ardeem posted:If you tried to sell this as a made for TV movie, the script would get rejected for being too unrealistic. Yeah I was looking forward to an Air Disasters, but I'm not sure anyone would believe it.
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Colonial Air Force posted:Yeah I was looking forward to an Air Disasters, but I'm not sure anyone would believe it. https://youtu.be/3mLCv7v07uo I would've gotten the gently caress off *this* plane.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:https://youtu.be/3mLCv7v07uo He partially recreated this on Louie and it's awesome. https://youtu.be/eZZM6_Hery8
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Platystemon posted:All other timelines ended in nuclear fire. But in that timeline I am Lord Humungous.
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Dr_Strangelove posted:But in that timeline I am Lord Humungous. I'm that autogyro pilot, except instead of a autogyro it is a Zeppelin I don't live past the first reel, Virgina Hey's character pretends to seduce me, then she kills me and takes my stuff. It didn't come up in the road warrior but she had a real grudge against airships
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Dr_Strangelove posted:But in that timeline I am Lord Humungous. Yeah but all the rest of us are emaciated beggars so it's kind of a wash really.
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Alereon posted:Shortly before the flight the First Officer was replaced with a well-connected model who, while she carried a private pilot license, was not type-rated and had never co-piloted before. Why am I not surprised that it's the sun reporting this? Jesus Christ that pilot was a loving idiot.
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This just popped up on reddit note: total flight time (half way down) vs maximum endurance (at bottom). Also, SLVR-SKRG is 1839mi, and the range of a (stock) RJ-85 is 1808mi
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Captain Postal posted:This just popped up on reddit  I checked the max range on an E170 before taking a RIC-DEN segment on one.
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Captain Postal posted:This just popped up on reddit Well yeah, they were supposed to refuel! Only they didn't, because the "airport was closed for the night." 
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PT6A posted:It's looking pretty conclusive that the PIC was extremely negligent, resulting in this crash. Jesus, how do you even fill that flight plan out without at least getting a bit nervous about your own wellbeing? The key for basically every single one of these accidents with extreme recklessness/negligence is it's rarely the first time its happened. Example: there was a crew back about a decade ago who flew right the gently caress into a mountain because they went so quickly through preflight checks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_B%C3%A1rbara_Airlines_Flight_518 edit: According to the Guardian, the guy pulled this poo poo four times previous to this. Party Plane Jones fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Dec 3, 2016 |
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Hey, does anyone have any tasty, scathing critiques of the F-35 on hand? I need some for my sister.
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The GBS F-35 thread is in GiP now. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3694048 My favorite is still "the F-35 hit a target in testing today but it's OK, the pilot ejected."
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Ambrose Burnside posted:one of the canuck networks had a news segment all The Avro Arrow- F-35 Competition? and the answer was Yes Definitely and the graphic animations they made for the segment literally had the arrow flying circles around the F-35 and it owned tremendously cock hero flux posted:it's great that a plane that was half-finished 50 years ago by feared military powerhouse Canada could still probably have beaten a plane that cost the US nearly 1.5 trillion dollars to make
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Sagebrush posted:QUOTES If by beaten, they mean beaten in a race to be shot down by a SAM first then yes...
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CarForumPoster posted:If by beaten, they mean beaten in a race to be shot down by a SAM first then yes... oooo looks like someone's got a hard-on for The Navy's Army's Air Force's special toy
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Sagebrush posted:oooo looks like someone's got a hard-on for The Navy's Army's Air Force's special toy you take it back Relevant to thread question: Anyone think the military has learned their lesson about pushing the limits of technology for weapon systems AND subsystems AND structure on one program yet? Whats the over under on the B-21 having some hilarious requirements like the B2, F-22, F-35, that make it need a bunch of state of the art stuff that the contractor will have little idea how to test or make? To NGC's credit UCLASS/MQ-25 looks to be working well as a demonstrator.
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hobbesmaster posted:The B-21 is hopefully just a b-2b like it appears to be. Appears how? Sure we've seen renderings with 0 detail and sure it's the signature Northrop Grumman NG signature delta wing...so is UCLASS. I'd challenge someone to point to one thing that makes the airframe more similar to the B-2 than to the flying gas tank that UCLASS became. Also the B-2 has really bad availability even after 20 years, a hilariously long PDM, big $/flight hour, needs special purpose hangars (last I read anyway) and plenty of limitations on top of being stealth from an era before modeling existed for stealth. Would we even want a B-2B?
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CarForumPoster posted:Appears how? Sure we've seen renderings with 0 detail and sure it's the signature Northrop Grumman NG signature delta wing...so is UCLASS. I'd challenge someone to point to one thing that makes the airframe more similar to the B-2 than to the flying gas tank that UCLASS became. I thought the b 21 was supposed to be an updated/cheaper to build and operate B-2?
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Flikken posted:Cheaper to build and operate B-2? Since when has that ever been the case for a new military anything?
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Nuevo posted:Since when has that ever been the case for a new military anything? Virginia class SSN?
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CarForumPoster posted:Also the B-2 has really bad availability even after 20 years, a hilariously long PDM, big $/flight hour, needs special purpose hangars (last I read anyway) and plenty of limitations on top of being stealth from an era before modeling existed for stealth. Would we even want a B-2B? Only 21 B-2s were built. 1 crashed, so there are 20 in service. Across those 20 aircraft there are five different block numbers. How can maintenance and operations possibly be economical with a fleet like that? The USN carrier fleet is probably more homogeneous. (incidentally the USN has as many carriers as the USAF has B-2s)
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hobbesmaster posted:Only 21 B-2s were built. 1 crashed, so there are 20 in service. Across those 20 aircraft there are five different block numbers. How can maintenance and operations possibly be economical with a fleet like that? The USN carrier fleet is probably more homogeneous. (incidentally the USN has as many carriers as the USAF has B-2s) I guess it's appropriate that the B-2s have individual names, then.
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Flikken posted:I thought the b 21 was supposed to be an updated/cheaper to build and operate B-2? A lot of people have shared that opinion here but as far as I can tell nothing supports it.
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Well LRS-B was intentionally not the 2037 Bomber, so in terms of project goals I'd think it's more to bridge capabilities rather than to develop a kick-rear end black magic bomber. I'm sure NG's proposal must have been cheaper than Boeing/Lockheed's because it had old designs and technical upgrades to build off of
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hobbesmaster posted:Only 21 B-2s were built. 1 crashed, so there are 20 in service. Across those 20 aircraft there are five different block numbers. How can maintenance and operations possibly be economical with a fleet like that? The USN carrier fleet is probably more homogeneous. (incidentally the USN has as many carriers as the USAF has B-2s) The Nazis would be proud.
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