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Darkman Fanpage: Jul 4, 2012

Karl Barks posted:

https://twitter.com/wesleysnipes/status/803322489346457600

lol

# ? Dec 2, 2016 23:31

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# ? May 26, 2024 10:13

burnishedfume: Mar 8, 2011; You really are a louse...

Accretionist posted:

Just heard someone on NPR saying we need to get rid of working-class whites. Other interviewees were like, "Really? Really?," but still. I hope this poo poo doesn't poison party reformation. Clinton pulled millions of poor whites. That's millions of Democratic voters right there, yet I keep hearing people saying we need to get rid of them or they're the enemy. Like god drat, people. That's millions of your existing base.

Also, like, they do realize the Obama coalition that was supposed to be unbreakable and guarantee a Democrat White House forever still relied on white working class voters? Not exclusively or anything but the absolute stupidest takeaway from 2008/2012 was "we literally can run on a platform of "kill all poor whites" and win".

# ? Dec 2, 2016 23:32

Thoguh: Nov 8, 2002; College Slice

Accretionist posted:

Just heard someone on NPR saying we need to get rid of working-class whites. Other interviewees were like, "Really? Really?," but still. I hope this poo poo doesn't poison party reformation. Clinton pulled millions of poor whites. That's millions of Democratic voters right there, yet I keep hearing people saying we need to get rid of them or they're the enemy. Like god drat, people. That's millions of your existing base.

They equate 'working class whites' to be 100% overlapping with 'superracists'

Thoguh has issued a correction as of 23:35 on Dec 2, 2016

# ? Dec 2, 2016 23:33

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

Zyla posted:

altneratively kill anyone with a podcast

some bitter losses but gains overall

Keith Ellison has a podcast, it's really good.

# ? Dec 2, 2016 23:34

steinrokkan: Apr 2, 2011; Soiled Meat

If they are poor despite their privilege, they must be losers, if they are losers, they must be racist since those terms are interchangeable. QED.

# ? Dec 2, 2016 23:35

OhFunny: Jun 26, 2013; EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

mannerup posted:

https://twitter.com/gdebenedetti/status/804796802247573509

Somewhere in NH Ray Buckley crosses a name off a list. Two to go.

# ? Dec 2, 2016 23:35

Darkman Fanpage: Jul 4, 2012

Zyla posted:

altneratively kill anyone with a podcast

some bitter losses but gains overall

what do you have against scott aukerman you fucker?

# ? Dec 2, 2016 23:35

bump_fn: Apr 12, 2004; _{two of them}

Ace of Baes posted:

Keith Ellison has a podcast, it's really good.

link

# ? Dec 2, 2016 23:35

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

bump_fn posted:

link

http://wethepodcast.podomatic.com

Also on iTunes.

# ? Dec 2, 2016 23:37

OhFunny: Jun 26, 2013; EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

bump_fn posted:

link

iTunes

Soundcloud

# ? Dec 2, 2016 23:38

greatn: Nov 15, 2006; by Lowtax

I don't know how many of you may watch Pokemon XYZ, but this season Ash Ketchum made it to the final round of the championships for the first time in the series 20 year history.

He had the strongest team hr had ever had, and was really showing himself to be a much more experienced and wizened trainer than ever before. He even brought a pseudo legendary, Goodra, and developed a unique ability to bond with his Greninja never before seen in the series or games, making it extraordinarily powerful.

He made it to the last Pokemon vs Alain, who had a mega Charizard, meaning it's most powerful attacks has type disadvantage against Ash-Greninja. Even though the mega Charizard had thunder punch, Ash-Greninja deflected or dodged it every time. It came down to one giant water shuriken vs one giant blast burn.

Mega Charizard won the day. It was Ash's most grueling defeat in the series, but he took it in stride.

What I'm saying here though, and my main point, is Bernie would have won.

# ? Dec 2, 2016 23:40

anime was right: Jun 27, 2008; death is certain
keep yr cool

greatn posted:

I don't know how many of you may watch Pokemon XYZ, but this season Ash Ketchum made it to the final round of the championships for the first time in the series 20 year history.

He had the strongest team hr had ever had, and was really showing himself to be a much more experienced and wizened trainer than ever before. He even brought a pseudo legendary, Goodra, and developed a unique ability to bond with his Greninja never before seen in the series or games, making it extraordinarily powerful.

He made it to the last Pokemon vs Alain, who had a mega Charizard, meaning it's most powerful attacks has type disadvantage against Ash-Greninja. Even though the mega Charizard had thunder punch, Ash-Greninja deflected or dodged it every time. It came down to one giant water shuriken vs one giant blast burn.

Mega Charizard won the day. It was Ash's most grueling defeat in the series, but he took it in stride.

What I'm saying here though, and my main point, is Bernie would have won.

dang, same

# ? Dec 2, 2016 23:40

the bitcoin of weed: Nov 1, 2014

Thoguh posted:

They equate 'working class whites' to be 100% overlapping with 'superracists'

to the type of person that classifies voters by demographic, they are obviously all exactly the same, so since some poor white people voted for trump for racist reasons this means every poor white person is a racist maniac

unfortunately this is a ton of loving people especially within the Democratic party (see: Tatum Girlparts' post history) and they need to knock it off. different people vote for different things

# ? Dec 2, 2016 23:41

Al-Saqr: Nov 11, 2007; One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

greatn posted:

I don't know how many of you may watch Pokemon XYZ, but this season Ash Ketchum made it to the final round of the championships for the first time in the series 20 year history.

He had the strongest team hr had ever had, and was really showing himself to be a much more experienced and wizened trainer than ever before. He even brought a pseudo legendary, Goodra, and developed a unique ability to bond with his Greninja never before seen in the series or games, making it extraordinarily powerful.

He made it to the last Pokemon vs Alain, who had a mega Charizard, meaning it's most powerful attacks has type disadvantage against Ash-Greninja. Even though the mega Charizard had thunder punch, Ash-Greninja deflected or dodged it every time. It came down to one giant water shuriken vs one giant blast burn.

Mega Charizard won the day. It was Ash's most grueling defeat in the series, but he took it in stride.

What I'm saying here though, and my main point, is Bernie would have won.

One thing I've learned from Pok�mon is that 20 years of failing at something makes ash a giant loser piece of poo poo.

gently caress losing in stride, ash should've shanked that piece of poo poo Alain.

# ? Dec 2, 2016 23:41

100 degrees Calcium: Jan 23, 2011

Should have made Alain the star of the show. The mega-evolution specials he starred in were way better than the main series.

Sun&Moon is pretty legit though.

# ? Dec 2, 2016 23:45

bump_fn: Apr 12, 2004; _{two of them}

greatn posted:

I don't know how many of you may watch Pokemon XYZ, but this season Ash Ketchum made it to the final round of the championships for the first time in the series 20 year history.

He had the strongest team hr had ever had, and was really showing himself to be a much more experienced and wizened trainer than ever before. He even brought a pseudo legendary, Goodra, and developed a unique ability to bond with his Greninja never before seen in the series or games, making it extraordinarily powerful.

He made it to the last Pokemon vs Alain, who had a mega Charizard, meaning it's most powerful attacks has type disadvantage against Ash-Greninja. Even though the mega Charizard had thunder punch, Ash-Greninja deflected or dodged it every time. It came down to one giant water shuriken vs one giant blast burn.

Mega Charizard won the day. It was Ash's most grueling defeat in the series, but he took it in stride.

What I'm saying here though, and my main point, is Bernie would have won.

what the gently caress is this post

# ? Dec 2, 2016 23:47

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

greatn posted:

I don't know how many of you may watch Pokemon XYZ, but this season Ash Ketchum made it to the final round of the championships for the first time in the series 20 year history.

He had the strongest team hr had ever had, and was really showing himself to be a much more experienced and wizened trainer than ever before. He even brought a pseudo legendary, Goodra, and developed a unique ability to bond with his Greninja never before seen in the series or games, making it extraordinarily powerful.

He made it to the last Pokemon vs Alain, who had a mega Charizard, meaning it's most powerful attacks has type disadvantage against Ash-Greninja. Even though the mega Charizard had thunder punch, Ash-Greninja deflected or dodged it every time. It came down to one giant water shuriken vs one giant blast burn.

Mega Charizard won the day. It was Ash's most grueling defeat in the series, but he took it in stride.

What I'm saying here though, and my main point, is Bernie would have won.

# ? Dec 2, 2016 23:49

Crowsbeak: Oct 9, 2012; by Azathoth; Lipstick Apathy

Subjunctivitis posted:

You say something like:

"If you work for a company or large corporation making a product or doing a service, and then that company makes a profit, your boss, your boss's boss and all the way up to the CEO and top-level executives get pay raises and bonuses. Where are your pay raises and your bonuses? You did your job just as much as they did theirs, probably more so to create your company's profit! So again, what about your pay raise and your bonus?

Also, when stockholders and shareholders, who by the way, do not work at your company, do not make the product, do not do the service, they just put money into it to 'let it grow,' when your company makes profits on sales of goods and services, these stockholders and shareholders share in your company's profits. All these people did was put money into your company while you worked hard so they could make a little extra cash from the profits you helped create. What about your share in the profits that you helped create?

And if lower taxes on your CEOs and your company are supposed to allow them to pay you more, why aren't you getting paid more?

It seems that something is terribly wrong here when all of these people get to earn higher wages, bonuses, and profit-shares from your hard work and you don't see an extra nickel and these people are actively working against you earning higher wages so they can pad their own wallets and bank accounts.

Speaking of bank accounts, many of these ultra-rich executives and corporations you work for stash their money on offshore accounts so they can avoid paying taxes on that money, while you pay taxes on the full amount of your income, not to forget that for many of you, it's often very difficult to fathom having any reasonable amount of emergency money in a basic banking account right here in the US, much less millions and billions of untaxed money in foreign bank accounts."

No. The Financial Elites are screwing you. Time to make them pay.

# ? Dec 2, 2016 23:50

Al-Saqr: Nov 11, 2007; One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

The fact that I understood the reference and all it entails makes me incredibly sad.

# ? Dec 2, 2016 23:50

Karl Barks: Jan 21, 1981

greatn posted:

I don't know how many of you may watch Pokemon XYZ, but this season Ash Ketchum made it to the final round of the championships for the first time in the series 20 year history.

He had the strongest team hr had ever had, and was really showing himself to be a much more experienced and wizened trainer than ever before. He even brought a pseudo legendary, Goodra, and developed a unique ability to bond with his Greninja never before seen in the series or games, making it extraordinarily powerful.

He made it to the last Pokemon vs Alain, who had a mega Charizard, meaning it's most powerful attacks has type disadvantage against Ash-Greninja. Even though the mega Charizard had thunder punch, Ash-Greninja deflected or dodged it every time. It came down to one giant water shuriken vs one giant blast burn.

Mega Charizard won the day. It was Ash's most grueling defeat in the series, but he took it in stride.

What I'm saying here though, and my main point, is Bernie would have won.

# ? Dec 2, 2016 23:50

Well What Now: Nov 10, 2016; by Fluffdaddy; Shredded Hen

Zyla posted:

altneratively kill anyone with a podcast

some bitter losses but gains overall

please don't kill the guys who do The F Plus tia

# ? Dec 2, 2016 23:52

Well What Now: Nov 10, 2016; by Fluffdaddy; Shredded Hen

Al-Saqr posted:

hey guys remember when shouting into a mic disqualified you from becoming president but having Nazi anti-Semites on your team is totally cool and good?

lol at someone from a Persian Gulf country complaining about another country's anti-Semitism

# ? Dec 2, 2016 23:55

Lastgirl: Sep 7, 1997; Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

greatn posted:

I don't know how many of you may watch Pokemon XYZ, but this season Ash Ketchum made it to the final round of the championships for the first time in the series 20 year history.

He had the strongest team hr had ever had, and was really showing himself to be a much more experienced and wizened trainer than ever before. He even brought a pseudo legendary, Goodra, and developed a unique ability to bond with his Greninja never before seen in the series or games, making it extraordinarily powerful.

He made it to the last Pokemon vs Alain, who had a mega Charizard, meaning it's most powerful attacks has type disadvantage against Ash-Greninja. Even though the mega Charizard had thunder punch, Ash-Greninja deflected or dodged it every time. It came down to one giant water shuriken vs one giant blast burn.

Mega Charizard won the day. It was Ash's most grueling defeat in the series, but he took it in stride.

What I'm saying here though, and my main point, is Bernie would have won.

# ? Dec 2, 2016 23:57

Ace of Baes: Jul 7, 1977

Say goodbye, say goodbye to pain of the past, we don't have to feel it anymore, Bernie Sanders por favor.

# ? Dec 2, 2016 23:58

OhFunny: Jun 26, 2013; EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

greatn posted:

I don't know how many of you may watch Pokemon XYZ, but this season Ash Ketchum made it to the final round of the championships for the first time in the series 20 year history.

He had the strongest team hr had ever had, and was really showing himself to be a much more experienced and wizened trainer than ever before. He even brought a pseudo legendary, Goodra, and developed a unique ability to bond with his Greninja never before seen in the series or games, making it extraordinarily powerful.

He made it to the last Pokemon vs Alain, who had a mega Charizard, meaning it's most powerful attacks has type disadvantage against Ash-Greninja. Even though the mega Charizard had thunder punch, Ash-Greninja deflected or dodged it every time. It came down to one giant water shuriken vs one giant blast burn.

Mega Charizard won the day. It was Ash's most grueling defeat in the series, but he took it in stride.

What I'm saying here though, and my main point, is Bernie would have won.

This post makes me feel old because I don't know any of the Pokemon here except Charizard, unless "Mega" Charizard is different, then I know none.

God I got Pokemon Blue 20 years ago for my birthday.

# ? Dec 2, 2016 23:58

Accretionist: Nov 7, 2012; I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES

Thoguh posted:

They equate 'working class whites' to be 100% overlapping with 'superracists'

I've had multiple conversations like:

Me: Not all working-class whites are racist.

Them: I know that!

Me: We need working-class white turnout.

Them: We shouldn't be nice to racists.

Me: Not all working-class whites are racist.

And all with Hillfolk who think progressives are voting against their own interests, just like conversatives, by not supporting Democratic centrists.

# ? Dec 3, 2016 00:00

Lastgirl: Sep 7, 1997; Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Mega-Charizard = Superdelegates :monocle:

the symbolism, its all there

I hope we dont get mega delegates

thatd be like real bad because mega = 2x super

# ? Dec 3, 2016 00:00

Well What Now: Nov 10, 2016; by Fluffdaddy; Shredded Hen

Israel is a bigtime rear end in a top hat state but it's just really funny to watch someone from a country where blood libel poo poo gets reported by news organizations as a real thing complaining about someone else being anti-Semitic.

# ? Dec 3, 2016 00:00

bump_fn: Apr 12, 2004; _{two of them}

I'm gonna turn this frying pan

Into a drying pan

# ? Dec 3, 2016 00:00

Al-Saqr: Nov 11, 2007; One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Well What Now posted:

lol at someone from a Persian Gulf country complaining about another country's anti-Semitism

Lol at a stupid person who thinks acting smarm makes his opinion correct. also LOL it's great that you're judging the standards of the US with absolute monarchies really good prospects and outlook for you. Also, those blood libel anti-Semitic propaganda countries are some of Israels best allies in the region so birds of a feather I guess.

Al-Saqr has issued a correction as of 00:06 on Dec 3, 2016

# ? Dec 3, 2016 00:03

Anime Schoolgirl: Nov 28, 2002

Subjunctivitis posted:

You say something like:

"If you work for a company or large corporation making a product or doing a service, and then that company makes a profit, your boss, your boss's boss and all the way up to the CEO and top-level executives get pay raises and bonuses. Where are your pay raises and your bonuses? You did your job just as much as they did theirs, probably more so to create your company's profit! So again, what about your pay raise and your bonus?

Also, when stockholders and shareholders, who by the way, do not work at your company, do not make the product, do not do the service, they just put money into it to 'let it grow,' when your company makes profits on sales of goods and services, these stockholders and shareholders share in your company's profits. All these people did was put money into your company while you worked hard so they could make a little extra cash from the profits you helped create. What about your share in the profits that you helped create?

And if lower taxes on your CEOs and your company are supposed to allow them to pay you more, why aren't you getting paid more?

It seems that something is terribly wrong here when all of these people get to earn higher wages, bonuses, and profit-shares from your hard work and you don't see an extra nickel and these people are actively working against you earning higher wages so they can pad their own wallets and bank accounts.

Speaking of bank accounts, many of these ultra-rich executives and corporations you work for stash their money on offshore accounts so they can avoid paying taxes on that money, while you pay taxes on the full amount of your income, not to forget that for many of you, it's often very difficult to fathom having any reasonable amount of emergency money in a basic banking account right here in the US, much less millions and billions of untaxed money in foreign bank accounts."

people have been saying this in the 80s, the 00s, and the only fault with it is that it doesn't fit in a 5 second soundbyte, as opposed to blaming minorities which does

so essentially what i am saying is that we need more chapo who drill small parts of these points in at a time

# ? Dec 3, 2016 00:04

burnishedfume: Mar 8, 2011; You really are a louse...

Accretionist posted:

I've had multiple conversations like:

Me: Not all working-class whites are racist.

Them: I know that!

Me: We need working-class white turnout.

Them: We shouldn't be nice to racists.

Me: Not all working-class whites are racist.

And all with Hillfolk who think progressives are voting against their own interests, just like conversatives, by not supporting Democratic centrists.

These people tend to be super stuck on identity politics but the version that surgically removes class as an identity, so a white dude from a former mining town in WV that hasn't had a steady job in decades and is basically just slowly watching his town die off due to people leaving for jobs and meth addiction is just as privileged and in charge as the Koch brothers.

Class struggle is totally alien to them because the only point of identity politics is respecting and recognizing eachother's identities, not radical overhaul of the economic system to end exploitation and poverty.

# ? Dec 3, 2016 00:05

bump_fn: Apr 12, 2004; _{two of them}

DrProsek posted:

These people tend to be super stuck on identity politics but the version that surgically removes class as an identity, so a white dude from a former mining town in WV that hasn't had a steady job in decades and is basically just slowly watching his town die off due to people leaving for jobs and meth addiction is just as privileged and in charge as the Koch brothers.

Class struggle is totally alien to them because the only point of identity politics is respecting and recognizing eachother's identities, not radical overhaul of the economic system to end exploitation and poverty.

I grew up in the neoliberal east coast bubble and I have found that talking to people from there about this without being condescending makes it v easy for them to change their minds

Maybe I'm just lucky tho

# ? Dec 3, 2016 00:08

LinYutang: Oct 12, 2016; NEOLIBERAL SHITPOSTER

VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO!!!

humans of new york is doing a feature on Macomb County, Michigan

which is on one hand UGH that coastal liberals see blue collar america as this foreign exotic thing, but on the other hand good that it's trying to evoke some sort of empathy for these people?

# ? Dec 3, 2016 00:12

Anime Schoolgirl: Nov 28, 2002

bump_fn posted:

I grew up in the neoliberal east coast bubble and I have found that talking to people from there about this without being condescending makes it v easy for them to change their minds

Maybe I'm just lucky tho

you're really lucky, unfortunately.

LinYutang posted:

humans of new york is doing a feature on Macomb County, Michigan

which is on one hand UGH that coastal liberals see blue collar america as this foreign exotic thing, but on the other hand good that it's trying to evoke some sort of empathy for these people?

blue collar america is a foreign exotic thing to them

# ? Dec 3, 2016 00:12

bump_fn: Apr 12, 2004; _{two of them}

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

you're really lucky, unfortunately.

blue collar america is a foreign exotic thing to them

one silver lining in all this is that my brother in law who is from rural Michigan and I have bonded in our disgust at that brand of coastal liberalism

# ? Dec 3, 2016 00:17

LinYutang: Oct 12, 2016; NEOLIBERAL SHITPOSTER

VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO!!!

https://twitter.com/freddiedeboer/status/804161936602648577

# ? Dec 3, 2016 00:17

burnishedfume: Mar 8, 2011; You really are a louse...

bump_fn posted:

I grew up in the neoliberal east coast bubble and I have found that talking to people from there about this without being condescending makes it v easy for them to change their minds

Maybe I'm just lucky tho

Some of them do get it. Others dig in hard and go "they're white cis het men, if they're still poor it's their problem, move to the city if you can't find a job".

Or they kinda get it but don't get that addressing class is more than a candidate who technically supports a $15 minimum wage but tries to hide it so their donors don't get upset and is personally ashamed of it.

Or they get it, but also get that the labor movement in the US in the past has dumped poor black folks if it meant poor white folks got something they wanted and so their solution is to first solve race/sex/etcism, then go back and fix class.

# ? Dec 3, 2016 00:24

Atrocious Joe: Sep 2, 2011

greatn posted:

I don't know how many of you may watch Pokemon XYZ, but this season Ash Ketchum made it to the final round of the championships for the first time in the series 20 year history.

He had the strongest team hr had ever had, and was really showing himself to be a much more experienced and wizened trainer than ever before. He even brought a pseudo legendary, Goodra, and developed a unique ability to bond with his Greninja never before seen in the series or games, making it extraordinarily powerful.

He made it to the last Pokemon vs Alain, who had a mega Charizard, meaning it's most powerful attacks has type disadvantage against Ash-Greninja. Even though the mega Charizard had thunder punch, Ash-Greninja deflected or dodged it every time. It came down to one giant water shuriken vs one giant blast burn.

Mega Charizard won the day. It was Ash's most grueling defeat in the series, but he took it in stride.

What I'm saying here though, and my main point, is Bernie would have won.

# ? Dec 3, 2016 00:25

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# ? May 26, 2024 10:13

Anime Schoolgirl: Nov 28, 2002

DrProsek posted:

Or they get it, but also get that the labor movement in the US in the past has dumped poor black folks if it meant poor white folks got something they wanted and so their solution is to first solve race/sex/etcism, then go back and fix class.

do they not get that those can be addressed at the same time

# ? Dec 3, 2016 00:26

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