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I could maaaaybe buy that someone on Trump's staff saw this as a deliberate move to showcase Trump's "strength" and how Trump's gonna throw some weight around in negotiations with China, but there's no way Trump himself even understands the independence issue or the history of Taiwan at all. And nobody's in touch with him and he's taking no briefings, which means what he picks up from the current media buzz is going to be pretty much random. Which means it's totally possible that Trump'll see that 'clarification' from the White House and belt out an angry tweet reminding everyone that the current White House staff doesn't speak for him and once he's in office he'll make his own decisions about what policies to keep, or that China will put out a statement about how the call hurt their feelings and Trump'll tweet back that he talks to whoever he wants and China can stuff it if they don't like it. This lame duck period is at least interesting for America having two different foreign policy stances at the same time and nobody knows what the incoming one might be (or if it's even coherent) apart from reading twitter tea leaves. No way there's a coherent strategy at play though, Trump'll basically start formulating his Taiwan-China policy as he goes based on who insults or flatters him over the weekend. Edit: Can someone who knows more about Taiwan's current President comment on whether they're someone who might want to try and play Trump into giving Taiwan formal recognition? They could easily coax it out of him with the right bait even if he doesn't realize what he's really doing.
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china you have literally all of china, it's loving huge why do you want taiwan so bad
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I wouldn't mind someone standing up to China either. But I'd like it to be someone who has a shred of knowledge about them, isn't a blithering idiot and someone who isn't so sensitive that they cry when some local news paper runs a picture of his double chin.
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Tatsuta Age posted:I talked to my dad on the phone and he went off on some anecdote after we talked about trump where he said "and when I pulled the lever against hillary I thought of you and your future" and internally I died My dad thankfully didn't vote for Trump but this is basically how he justifies voting Republican for basically every other position. My entire goal over the next 4 years is to just keep forwarding him articles every time I see Trump do something that kills the environment, brings the US closer to war with Iran, gets shaken down by capitalists every time they try to leave the US, etc and just keep saying "Thanks dad!" Like, he's normally a cynical as gently caress guy who knows nobody in politics gives a gently caress about him so he just votes to lower his own taxes and nothing else, but this election kinda broke him and now when I point out things like "Trump appointed a climate change denier to the EPA", "His Department of Education person spent her career murdering public schools for private ones", "He's meeting with Henry Kissinger, a man you only meet with if you're trying to murder brown folks miles and miles away" and he says the dumbest loving poo poo like "Well we can't judge them on their pasts, maybe they'll be different with more power", "he must have had a reason for appointing them, and if they turn out to be bad at their jobs he'll fire them", "He's actually a 7th dimensional chess master who is now giving himself more power of the GOP by filling his cabinet with GOP stooges", etc.
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DrProsek posted:My dad thankfully didn't vote for Trump but this is basically how he justifies voting Republican for basically every other position. My entire goal over the next 4 years is to just keep forwarding him articles every time I see Trump do something that kills the environment, brings the US closer to war with Iran, gets shaken down by capitalists every time they try to leave the US, etc and just keep saying "Thanks dad!" trying to justify being a republican voter with donald j trump in charge breaks people
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Yinlock posted:china you have literally all of china, it's loving huge its all about image they dont want to appear weak and abdicate uh uh uh the squiggly lines on the map means thats mine
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Dec 3, 2016 01:24
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most of the geography of china is useless desert, so taiwan is actually a more useful landmass than the majority of the chinese mainland
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Ah poo poo, China O'Brien owns.
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How many days in a year?
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That DICK! posted:How many days in a year? 365 but 366 every four years. those are called leap years.
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That DICK! posted:How many days in a year? 420, I think
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its weird that we say a year is 365 days reflexively when 1/4 of them are 366. makes u think
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Al! posted:its weird that we say a year is 365 days reflexively when 1/4 of them are 366. makes u think Except for leap centuries where one time we don't observe it
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Yinlock posted:china you have literally all of china, it's loving huge china loves its history (that agrees with the current leaders) so there's few things that'd piss the current leaders off more than losing 'historically Chinese land'.
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Pictured, historically Chinese land according to PRC history:
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UofM professor explains why Michigan needs the recount. Some guy yells at him that he's full of crap.
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Al! posted:if china doesn't maintain a hostile relationship with taiwain the ghost of chiang kai-shek will rise up and since mao has already ascended to the throne of heaven there will be nobody to oppose him. Look at this gaijin doubting the Emperor Shōwa's ability to return to earth to once again discipline the infant Chinese for having the gal to think they can have an independent nation that bordered Japan.
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https://twitter.com/HeerJeet/status/804843897562140674 DEEP STATE 
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I am honestly surprised how fast the GOP is bowing to Trump. I am somehow disappointed in the Republican Party.
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a shameful boehner posted:the first real naval battle in the paracel islands is gonna be bigly how many carrier groups do you think trump and mattis lose
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platzapS posted:I am honestly surprised how fast the GOP is bowing to Trump. both houses, presidency and a vacant supreme court seat will do that
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DrProsek posted:Look at this gaijin doubting the Emperor Shōwa's ability to return to earth to once again discipline the infant Chinese for having the gal to think they can have an independent nation that bordered Japan. 
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Raskolnikov38 posted:how many carrier groups do you think trump and mattis lose some of them. all of them?
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mannerup posted:both houses, presidency and a vacant supreme court seat will do that that tweet storm has a point in that it's a race to get what they want out of trump before he destroys everything
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Raskolnikov38 posted:how many carrier groups do you think trump and mattis lose  will try it anyway
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Raskolnikov38 posted:how many carrier groups do you think trump and mattis lose WHERE IS CARRIER GROUP MAGA ONE, THE WORLD WONDERS *Admiral Bannon furiously smashes his laptop*
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Neurolimal posted:does anyone actually think China is going to actually pull anything because Trump called a president of a country the US has no interest in liberating from China doing so seems to have pissed them off a great deal so who knows the point is that he did this because refuses to learn anything about world politics
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Neurolimal posted:does anyone actually think China is going to actually pull anything because Trump called a president of a country the US has no interest in liberating from China Even if they don't its not a super great idea to rock the boat with China just so the president can have someone say nice things to him.
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Lastgirl posted:Drink of choice tonight is : oh u drinking beer tonite?   only im also gonna get high as hell   GOLDEN MONKEY
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Yinlock posted:china you have literally all of china, it's loving huge america you have literally all of america, it's loving huge why do you want the economically successful areas
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