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Data Graham posted:I feel like the show started out wanting to be more of a season-long narrative than just a "format" show. Like, from the framing scenes in Episode 1 (and the epicness of the trailer) I thought there would be this whole story about how they're traveling the world and seeking out interesting cars and car stories, and half the show would be about their real-time travels and the poo poo they get into. I'm generally with you in that GT could have been so much more than it actually is. What it is is OK, but disappointing. Too many parts are just teeth-gratingly bad, interspersed with very good stuff that keeps me watching (but barely).
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Personally I hope they do a cheap car (or just a pick-a-car) challenge soon. Those were always my favorite parts of both their generation of TGUK and TGUS. Hopefully its not considered Top Gear IP like the concept of a masked racing driver. We did get my favorite part of them though this week, with everyone pulling up and explaining why they picked their car and mocking each other's. But I love when they have to do that without an unlimited budget. Buying the $1000 cars in Miami was one of my favorite scenes in the show.
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I do like that they have been doing their segments as two of the guys with a similar interest in a certain kind of driving or car. Then the third one shows up uninvited.
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I had no idea people vehemently hated the celeb bits in Top Gear. It was good when you knew who the person was, great if they were a megastar or you particularly liked them, and if not hey now you know one more person. Do you also skip the interview segments on any talk show ever?
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drunken officeparty posted:I had no idea people vehemently hated the celeb bits in Top Gear. It was good when you knew who the person was, great if they were a megastar or you particularly liked them, and if not hey now you know one more person. Do you also skip the interview segments on any talk show ever? The actual interview parts were usually pretty dull and boring - celebrity on a publicity tour to promote his/her latest project. Not any different from any other talk show. I enjoyed seeing them drive, though, as it was something different with often amusing results.
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It was interesting if you had someone who was into cars and wanted to get a good time. Not so much if it was like Jeff Goldblum who drove a 90s Mercedes because that's the car he was given by the studio after Jurassic Park. He was so uninterested in cars that he didn't even know you could take it out of third gear to go faster.
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Without the celeb bits and a more "newsy" They aren't doing anything with it that really leverages the live audience or location. 
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projecthalaxy posted:Personally I hope they do a cheap car (or just a pick-a-car) challenge soon. Agreed. As much as I like to watch them drive around in cars that I can't afford, I derive as much -- if not more -- pleasure from seeing them drive around in old beaters that break down in unexpected and hilarious ways. The 1500 Porsche challenge from Season 8 was great. Un-l337-Pork fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Dec 2, 2016 |
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this past episode was a lot better than the first two, but it still seems like they're trying too hard. Putting the Challenger up against the Aston / Rolls and watching the three of them have it out was a good premise on its own ( watching Aston v. Dodge on the track was pretty fun ), but Hammond turning the American-stereotype knob up to 11 kinda ruined it.
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I'm watching the new episode now wondering why in the world it wasn't the first one. It's literally called The Grand Tour.
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It would have been good as the first ep, I agree, especially as an introduction too everyone's personalities/"characters", but I can kinda see why they led with the 918/P1/LaFerrari battle to open because that was kinda the Big Thing they had been going for on Top Gear and now they could do it.
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Also makes sense to get your stinkers out of the way first while people are still willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.
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This should have been episode 1. "Our show is called The Grand Tour and we want to kick it off by doing an actual grand tour through Europe." Then the second episode they could do the big three super cars finally and then do whatever.
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The new episode is much better but the material and jokes just don't seem as good as they were in TG; the flow of the show seems really disjointed. Did they lose a key writer in the transition or something? I did much prefer GTs in Italy to the other stuff, but the Hammond thing was totally overwrought. I would also like to know more about the cars, even though they don't have the "provide product reviews" mandate from the BBC anymore. Whitby looks nice, can UK goons confirm/deny? blk fucked around with this message at 03:13 on Dec 3, 2016 |
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Hellcat Charger is pure insanity, modern Rolls look like goddamn bricks. And why the gently caress didn't they let The American drive a Hellcat around the Eboladrome? 700hp MOPAR, he would've felt right at home, ignoring the fact that I guess he primarily drove Chevys in NASCAR.
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I've been almost wondering if at the BBC they had a few levels of managment/critics they had to go through before an episode went to air. People that called them out on things/ told them when things weren't working. And with Amazon they literally have next to no filter and a blank check and they really need that filter at times.
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One of the few episodes in all of top gear Richard made me laugh pretty much the entire time. I say bravo!
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I liked the first episode more but this one was very good. Seconding that I'd have preferred more on the cars.
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blk posted:Whitby looks nice, can UK goons confirm/deny? While it's out of the way a bit, it's a worthwhile inclusion if you're going to Yorkshire or the north in general. Also have a look at Robin Hood's Bay just south of there.
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Awesome episode this week. On a side note -- what are the best TGUS episodes? I never got hooked on the show. A lot of the episodes were dull but there were some good ones as well.
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Well this happened: http://jalopnik.com/you-can-now-stream-seasons-2-through-17-of-top-gear-on-1789627435 Seasons 2-17 of top gear on amazon prime. Probably the DVD music version, but still.
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blk posted:Whitby looks nice, can UK goons confirm/deny? It's a nice old fishing village that is invaded twice a year by Goths.
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Mustache Ride posted:Well this happened: http://jalopnik.com/you-can-now-stream-seasons-2-through-17-of-top-gear-on-1789627435
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I looked at a couple of episodes in the earlier seasons and it doesn't seem to be.
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triple clutcher posted:this past episode was a lot better than the first two, but it still seems like they're trying too hard. Putting the Challenger up against the Aston / Rolls and watching the three of them have it out was a good premise on its own ( watching Aston v. Dodge on the track was pretty fun ), but Hammond turning the American-stereotype knob up to 11 kinda ruined it. Aye, I found the American-izing a bit over the top but the rest was fun.
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Looks like in my country amazon has all seasons of Top Gear, but only the latest five or so are included in Prime. Boo! ... but there's Top Gear USA as well! Any standout episodes?
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This episode was better than last week's, but it still leaves a lot to be desired. Other than the brief house demolition, there was really only one film in this episode, their rather lacklustre grand tour. Throughout that whole film there was only one joke repeated ad nauseam, Hammond is annoying. No challenges, other than a race between two of them, and no taking turns pulling pranks on eachother.
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Jehde posted:This episode was better than last week's, but it still leaves a lot to be desired. Other than the brief house demolition, there was really only one film in this episode, their rather lacklustre grand tour. Throughout that whole film there was only one joke repeated ad nauseam, Hammond is annoying. No challenges, other than a race between two of them, and no taking turns pulling pranks on eachother.  is the general theme of the show so far.
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This episode just rekindled my interest in Vivaldi. drat do I love Baroque.
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Disappointing Pie posted:with Amazon they literally have next to no filter and a blank check and they really need that filter at times. 
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Deteriorata posted:That was probably a "dramatization" though. A Hellcat SRT is rated 13C/21H by the EPA, so Hammond was either doing lots of donuts off camera or they fudged it a bit. Drive anything with 600+ hp and you get 6mpg in my experience. Technically it's possible to get more but if you floor it every time you see a tunnel (and you do) that's the result. When I had an FF for a few days the first tank of gas lasted 90 miles.
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drgitlin posted:Drive anything with 600+ hp and you get 6mpg in my experience. Technically it's possible to get more but if you floor it every time you see a tunnel (and you do) that's the result. When I had an FF for a few days the first tank of gas lasted 90 miles. My old trans am was just south of 600 to the wheels. Highway I still got 25 or so. In the city, I could do 13. If I was actually having fun and not short shifting every single gear? 6 or 7.
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iwentdoodie posted:My old trans am was just south of 600 to the wheels. Highway I still got 25 or so. That's exactly my point. Technically you can get double digit efficiency, but if you only have a car like that to drive for a few days? Expect to get Hammond-level mpg.
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drgitlin posted:That's exactly my point. Technically you can get double digit efficiency, but if you only have a car like that to drive for a few days? Expect to get Hammond-level mpg. And I was actually trying to suggest that if they didn't just make it up, Hammond had to be deliberately driving it to burn as much gas as possible just for the yuks. Which was entirely possible, but either way they were going out of their way to make the car look like it drank more gas than it actually would IRL. They never quoted actual MPG for the other two, just the optimal values at a peak moment on the highway. Those would probably get in low double figures. That's all fine as far it goes, it's an entertainment show. It just grated on me because it was all part of the gee-haw redneck American muscle car thing they beat into the ground for the whole segment.
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Some people really dislike fun.
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Deteriorata posted:And I was actually trying to suggest that if they didn't just make it up, Hammond had to be deliberately driving it to burn as much gas as possible just for the yuks. When you have a 700 HP car and the ability to floor it frequently without risking a license suspension and jail time, unsurprisingly, you will floor it a lot. Unless you just hate fun.
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Deteriorata posted:They never quoted actual MPG for the other two, just the optimal values at a peak moment on the highway. Those would probably get in low double figures. Besides, it doesn't matter. Assume everything on the show is subject to hyperbole or the rules of cool/funny/convenient as per TV in general.
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InitialDave posted:James does say when his MPG is measured from, thereby showing he means average consumption. Yeah, I'm aware of that. That's why all this dogpiling is so dumb. My very first comment on it was that it was a "dramatization".
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It kinda reminds me of the time they had the original Tesla on and said it had a 50 mile range and broke down immediately, then Tesla sued them and they admitted it was an "exaggeration".
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