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Mousepractice posted:
This story ends with Jaff hooking up with his sister and them settling down together in a trailer park
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Hollismason posted:This story ends with Jaff hooking up with his sister and them settling down together in a trailer park Authors like Alan Moore always seem to have bits of perversion like that dangling gangrenously out of all their stories. Not quite full Claremont in comically predictable constancy and quantity, but enough that it's notable like "geez, what a weird old man".
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Nov 30, 2016 07:53
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I can't remember if it's mentioned in the comic, but it'd make sense if they couldn't have children with anyone, since they're troll-human hybrids. But it does mention how they were abused by their father, and that Jeff killed him when he "went after" the sister, so really I think that girl needs to get extensive therapy and meet some men from other trailer parks.
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Nov 30, 2016 08:23
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Doc Hawkins posted:I can't remember if it's mentioned in the comic, but it'd make sense if they couldn't have children with anyone, since they're troll-human hybrids. Their mom wasn't exactly human either. I forget how they explain it but the force blast and invulnerability were from mom. They inherited the size, strength, and a little more "really loving hard to kill" from dad. To take out their old man they had to stake him to the ground in his sleep and burn him to ash because he was still fighting when he was mostly skeletonized . Jeff actually identifies his race for paperwork. I think it's Demi-Ogre but that's more excuse than I need for a reread.
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Dec 2, 2016 07:00
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His dad's an ogre. His mom had a potion of invulnerability. Though she really should have gone with the strength or ogre slaying potion.
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WickedHate posted:Authors like Alan Moore always seem to have bits of perversion like that dangling gangrenously out of all their stories. 
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Dec 2, 2016 13:47
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"Dangling" is one of the code words Glycon-cultists use to signal one another, along with "coiling" and (the riskiest) "slithering".
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Dec 2, 2016 13:58
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I personally like "festooned" it's a great word
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Dec 2, 2016 19:26
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I have to say, burying a message to Robyn that way is... well, it's an indicator of unbelievably vast power. Does that count as badass? What about where someone stretches their power and will to the limit, and then PAST their limits... and then it snaps and they're killed horribly? Does that count as badass? I'm thinking in particular of the death of Inertia, in Mark Gruenwald's 1989 Squadron Supreme GN. the Squadron is dealing with a Giant Human Hand that's slowly but inexorably reaching through a rift in space. Apparently it's going to grab the Sun. Which could make the sun pop. And Gruenwald (of blessed memory) chose to portray this in terms of genuine astronomical sizes and distances and masses. the Squadron are in a ship out by the asteroid belt. they've already lost their telepath who tried to grab hold of the mind attached to the Hand, so he could force it to stop. (His head exploded.) so Inertia reaches out to it with her power. Maybe she can make it go backwards, y'know? and she strains and strains and straiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiins ... and explodes into a pink mist.
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Dec 2, 2016 23:11
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I think it only counts as badass if they actually accomplish something, no matter how little, before expiring. Like, in your example, if she'd managed to even just halt it for a brief time, give the others time to come up with a plan. Just running facefirst into a metaphorical brick wall isn't badass. Bonus points if they have time to deliver a Shakespearean soliloquy about their life as they pass on. Bobulus fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Dec 2, 2016 |
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Dec 2, 2016 23:21
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Nevvy Z posted:Why didn't he kill it? This is pretty much one of those actions that only happens because comic book writers are a very particular sort and nonsense like this is occasionally accepted as more than melodrama.
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Dec 3, 2016 00:25
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drat, I forgot about the secret message part. That was a cool bit.
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Dec 3, 2016 05:52
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Nilbop posted:This is pretty much one of those actions that only happens because comic book writers are a very particular sort and nonsense like this is occasionally accepted as more than melodrama. I would posit that, at that moment, he was not intellectually or physically capable of killing it.
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Dec 3, 2016 07:42
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Bobulus posted:I think it only counts as badass if they actually accomplish something, no matter how little, before expiring. Like when Stormwatch all got killed by the aliens from Alien? The only member to reach the safety of their space station's command center kicked back and set a direct course for the Sun. His power was energy-absorption, though, so I always thought they'd bring him back.  Wildstorm.(If you've ever wondered what happened to Stormwatch, they all died fighting the aliens from Alien.)
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Dec 3, 2016 09:07
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They're called Xenomorphs goddammit.
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Malachite_Dragon posted:They're called Xenomorphs goddammit. Technically, that's only a basic descriptive term used only once in the movies. 
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Dec 3, 2016 10:22
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But it is at least used. Between that and obvious practicality, I understand using that word, I just think it's less funny. What I won't accept is calling the aliens from Predator "Predators," because they are never called that and they never predate. The correct short term should be "Hunters." 
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Dec 3, 2016 11:14
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I thought they were called hish
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Dec 3, 2016 11:24
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Yautja or Hish-Qu-Ten, depending on the expanded universe canon you accept.
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Dec 3, 2016 11:28
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I don't really "do" "canon." Found the panels:    Further research has learned me that he was eventually brought back, but as a bad guy, but then again after that as a good guy. Comics.
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Dec 3, 2016 12:20
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Doc Hawkins posted:(If you've ever wondered what happened to Stormwatch, they all died fighting the aliens from Alien.) This is awesome, did this happen in the final issues of the stormwatch book or was it a separate mini?
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Dec 3, 2016 20:41
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site posted:This is awesome, did this happen in the final issues of the stormwatch book or was it a separate mini?  When the idea for the crossover was explained to him Warren Ellis wasn't enthusiastic, he kept telling them he thought the idea was "Bloody stupid" but was won round when "he was told that he could kill any character he wanted".
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Dec 3, 2016 20:58
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Sweet, thanks
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Dec 3, 2016 21:08
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On the one hand that seems kind of petty, on the other if the writer doesn't want to write a concept and your selling point is that he can kill anyone, I don't know what else you'd expect.
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Dec 3, 2016 23:17
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fatherdog posted:On the one hand that seems kind of petty, on the other if the writer doesn't want to write a concept and your selling point is that he can kill anyone, I don't know what else you'd expect. He used the clean slate to launch the Authority, so it worked out pretty well for Wildstorm. Pretty amazing they kept it canon instead of making it a one shot or whatever. Over at Image a crossover with Batman was integral to the plot of The Darkness, too.
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Dec 3, 2016 23:22
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The event was retconned later on to involve I think Daemonites instead who are like Xenomorphs but not.
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Dec 4, 2016 00:04
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Annual reminder that EVERY SINGLE CAMEO/CROSSOVER EVER is canon in 2000 AD/Dredd. That's pretty badass.
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Dec 4, 2016 03:54
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If I remember correctly, Frank Miller's Batman/Spawn was canon to Spawn. Al had to walk around for a couple of issues with a Batarang scar on his face. Also, there was a Marvel/Top Cow crossover that was canon to Top Cow's universe, since it was the first time Dani Baptiste had ever met Jackie Escatado. They brought it up later in the comic where Sara's daughter was born.
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Dec 4, 2016 07:59
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the Invincible/Spider-man crossover was canon too, I believe
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Dec 4, 2016 10:50
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I think Spawn also counted his many crossovers as canon, including the Batman one.
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Wanderer posted:If I remember correctly, Frank Miller's Batman/Spawn was canon to Spawn. Al had to walk around for a couple of issues with a Batarang scar on his face. iirc, he sewed it up with a dirty shoelace no less.
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Dec 4, 2016 18:46
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That does not sound like it would help.
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Dec 4, 2016 18:50
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And then, he left the shoelace behind, his widow's new daughter tied a pacifier to it and wouldn't ever let go of it!
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Dec 4, 2016 18:58
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Fun fact if you go back and look at the trade paper backs of Knights End (where Batman comes back and claims his title back of Jean Paul Valley) there is a bit where Az-Bat is talking about how he is a good guy because he beats up villains. He mentions that he defeated "Jigsaw." Which is a reference to the Chuck Dixon Punisher/Batman crossover. So that one was cannon, I guess. Oh and speaking of Punisher, Archie/Punisher was referenced by way of a photograph in the super crazy Archie/Predator crossover. So they are also cannon, I guess.
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Doc Hawkins posted:Like when Stormwatch all got killed by the aliens from Alien? The only member to reach the safety of their space station's command center kicked back and set a direct course for the Sun. They did bring he back for an issue, he had absorbed the power of the sun which caused him to descend into madness, so he decided to burn Earth to cinders as they had forgotten about him, prompting the Authority to put him in stasis to suffer forever, since they could not kill him since that meant killing the sun. :thatswildstorm: Have to love that he died in a heroic manner, then they bring him back to put him down like a chump, just for one issue.
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The Question IRL posted:Fun fact if you go back and look at the trade paper backs of Knights End (where Batman comes back and claims his title back of Jean Paul Valley) there is a bit where Az-Bat is talking about how he is a good guy because he beats up villains. That's some St Elsewhere poo poo.
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I know IDW just did like a line wide mega crossover so it's not really a thing for this to happen, but i enjoy the fact that the Ghostbusters/tmnt teamup is canon
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Tasteful Dickpic posted:That's some St Elsewhere poo poo. you realize the guy who first came up with the St Elsewhere theory was Dwayne McDuffie, yeah? Dude was all about comics and intercompany crossovers. Choco1980 posted:drat, I forgot about the secret message part. That was a cool bit. Incidentally, it's a double secret message. Moore chose to emphasize the acrostic, but the rest of the message was actually meaningful too. Robyn is the Earthly lass, and unless she heeds (listens, is careful), this primitive countryside rustic-type world/sphere/orb is gonna get her killed (be her nemesis).
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Yeah, the way I interpreted it was that the Acrostic was the Dragon's way of telling Robyn this message was explicitly towards her, not Jaffs. But the whole thing comes across like he's talking THROUGH the flashback, akin to the sort of realization of when someone knows you're spying on them and addresses it.
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site posted:I know IDW just did like a line wide mega crossover so it's not really a thing for this to happen, but i enjoy the fact that the Ghostbusters/tmnt teamup is canon Well, not line-wide as IDW isn't a shared universe, but the Hasbro titles that crossed over are.
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