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quote:On Thursday, the Vatican officially released the Pope's encyclical on climate change, Laudato Si. In it, not only did he call for sweeping changes in how humanity cares for the planet, but he also harshly criticized the whole system of capitalism that he says is leading humanity to ecological catastrophe. He specifically criticized rich countries for exploiting the resources of the poor. "Access to ownership of goods and resources for meeting vital needs is inhibited by a system of commercial relations and ownership which is structurally perverse," the encyclical stated. "The developed countries ought to help pay this debt by significantly limiting their consumption of non-renewable energy and by assisting poorer countries to support policies and programmes of sustainable development."
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Dec 4, 2016 22:07
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the pope is... good?
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Dec 4, 2016 22:08
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Serf posted:the pope is... good? 
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Dec 4, 2016 22:12
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what is the pope's stance on memes as a millennial this is critically important to me
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Dec 4, 2016 22:15
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AceRimmer posted:Who knows, first we need someone to pin down his stance on whether Latinx is an acceptable term or not which pokemon is this
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Dec 4, 2016 22:16
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UHD posted:what is the pope's stance on memes Bernie is the Pope, so...
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Dec 4, 2016 22:18
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I don't know but here's a cool email I got recentlyquote:Hi Everyone,
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Dec 4, 2016 22:20
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Churches in general are for the priest or pastor and his family to gouge as much money as possible from the desperate. If you can find one that doesn't do that then it's probably fine for a meeting spot. Though I'd be wary of what kind of things the congregation actually believes and why they feel they need a church in the first place.
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Dec 4, 2016 22:27
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AceRimmer posted:I don't know but here's a cool email I got recently I genuinely hope that she dies on the street. Holy gently caress. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Dec 4, 2016 22:30
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Looks like Bernie might have his first post-election victory, looks like the DAPL is dead. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1328716083847271&id=1194419550610259
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Dec 4, 2016 22:32
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Sinestro posted:I genuinely hope that she dies on the street. Holy gently caress. what the gently caress dude Ace of Baes posted:Looks like Bernie might have his first post-election victory, looks like the DAPL is dead. gently caress yeahhh
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Dec 4, 2016 22:34
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Serf posted:It would also help if we stopped trying to come up with ways to entice industries to invest in communities or convert into more modern production. Nationalize them and do it ourselves. How do we reconcile with other corporations and companies moving their business elsewhere when we start nationalizing things?
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Dec 4, 2016 22:33
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UHD posted:what is the pope's stance on memes Christ is Lord of Lords and Meme of Memes
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Dec 4, 2016 22:35
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Venom Snake posted:So quick question to all our resident leftists and communists. Whats your take on churches as bases for community organizing? They are big in the black community and in rural area's but I know religion is a touchy subject for the left. The issue with Churches is that sometimes they're just not interested in helping us. Black churches are fertile ground that have a proven record of helping with minority organization and issues, but white Evangelical churches have a proven record of resistance to what we're trying to do. Churches were some of the biggest opponents of gay marriage and are now some of the biggest opponents of trans rights, and we're not exactly going to stop caring about those so we'll continue to butt heads. But in many rural communities, the only charity and support structure that's out there IS religious. The only free dinner is one provided by a church or a religious charity, the only free place to sleep is a church, and if you're trying to actively improve the well-being of the marginalized there you have to work with the church. I'm not exactly pitching revolutionary economic theory with everyone I meet, but some of these small town churches are literally the only ones who are confronting the problems we're trying to help, and would absolutely want to make things better. "poo poo ain't workin' out here" is well understood there. Powercrazy posted:Churches in general are for the priest or pastor and his family to gouge as much money as possible from the desperate. poo poo though this too. Lots of pastors are just in it for the cash and the esteem, it's like a shortcut to being a politician without anyone having to vote for you. There's a fair share of churches that pretty much just hold fundraisers for non-specific things and then funnel that money away. Also megachurches are anathema to everything you could try to accomplish, as well as the concepts of goodness, light, and decency, but we all know that already. Grondoth has issued a correction as of 22:42 on Dec 4, 2016 |
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Dec 4, 2016 22:35
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Ace of Baes posted:Looks like Bernie might have his first post-election victory, looks like the DAPL is dead. Holy poo poo. But I'll wait a month or so and see if they go back on this one.
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Dec 4, 2016 22:36
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theyre probably just gonna stop and the quietly do it as fast as possible around christmas or something lol
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Dec 4, 2016 22:37
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Pollyanna posted:what the gently caress dude
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Dec 4, 2016 22:38
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anime was right posted:theyre probably just gonna stop and the quietly do it as fast as possible around christmas or something lol agreed but even the appearance of a temporary concession in the face of protest is good for building public perception of the legitimacy and effectiveness of resistance and demonstration
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Dec 4, 2016 22:40
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Venom Snake posted:So quick question to all our resident leftists and communists. Whats your take on churches as bases for community organizing? They are big in the black community and in rural area's but I know religion is a touchy subject for the left. Good enough for Reverend MLK Jr, good enough for me. There's nothing more powerful than the church as bases for community organizing, and there's little more radicalizing leftist material out there than the extremely humanist and antimaterialist teachings attributed to Jesus. Churches are great. Church leadership not always.
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Dec 4, 2016 22:41
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Serf posted:But I'll wait a month or so and see if they go back on this one. crazy cloud posted:Good enough for Reverend MLK Jr, good enough for me. There's nothing more powerful than the church as bases for community organizing, and there's little more radicalizing leftist material out there than the extremely humanist and antimaterialist teachings attributed to Jesus. Churches are great. Church leadership not always. 
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Dec 4, 2016 22:42
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Pollyanna posted:what the gently caress dude the tone, attitude, use of her identity as if it earns her discounted rent i dunno, i can't afford rent and have to live with my actively transphobic family but I don't send people emails about how they should help me out with dumb made up words in them
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Dec 4, 2016 22:44
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Venom Snake posted:So quick question to all our resident leftists and communists. Whats your take on churches as bases for community organizing? They are big in the black community and in rural area's but I know religion is a touchy subject for the left. It's a center of community for a lot of people, so it's perfectly fine for organizing. Talk to the dang priest or preacher who runs the place before you start telling people to go, though.
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Dec 4, 2016 22:44
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Venom Snake posted:So quick question to all our resident leftists and communists. Whats your take on churches as bases for community organizing? They are big in the black community and in rural area's but I know religion is a touchy subject for the left. on one hand, organized evangelical churches in the us are a masterclass in disseminating narratives and constructing the right set of litmus/wedge issues that can later be used by the right to get people to vote against their own interests. perverse, but the left can learn from it and if nothing else needs to know how to counter it rather than just dismissing it on the other hand, many churches are one of the few remaining loci of genuine, largely non-consumption-focus communal engagement remaining, so the left should be looking to either employ or emulate so my vote is churches are important. dont want to get into the religion argument but i dont think it's immediately, inherently incompatible with a left society
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Dec 4, 2016 22:51
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Ace of Baes posted:Looks like Bernie might have his first post-election victory, looks like the DAPL is dead. until Trump re-routes it in January out of spite
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Dec 4, 2016 22:53
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HorseRenoir posted:until Trump re-routes it in January out of spite It'd be out of self-interest, he's invested in it and has came out publicly for it, if he does try to run it through hell probably end up murdering whatever approval rating he has left.
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Dec 4, 2016 22:56
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:same Mm yes I too remember how the DNC this year totally shunned any and all religion, leading up to the impassioned secular humanist speech of Mr. Barber, and the atheist Khan parents Ffs, Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton regularly attended and spoke to black church leaders for the last 30 years, always getting their input, listening to them, and heeding their advice. If anyone was calling to break all ties with minority religious groups, it was NEVER the Clintons.
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Dec 4, 2016 23:00
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Ace of Baes posted:Looks like Bernie might have his first post-election victory, looks like the DAPL is dead. Interesting; which happens first, repeal of the ACA or reversal of this decision? At least the protestors can rest through the winter and gear back up in the Spring.
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Dec 4, 2016 23:06
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Sinestro posted:I genuinely hope that she dies on the street. Holy gently caress. Excellent thread title right there. Democrats: I genuinely hope that she dies on the street. Holy gently caress.
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Dec 4, 2016 23:14
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Fulchrum posted:Mm yes I too remember how the DNC this year totally shunned any and all religion, leading up to the impassioned secular humanist speech of Mr. Barber, and the atheist Khan parents Really wish Clinton didn't give that speech about "killing god and his befuddled children"
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Dec 4, 2016 23:15
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Firehoses in the Dakota winter is definitely something that we can be glad the protesters don't have to suffer. Though that may have been why they stopped - the optics of native Americans freezing to death as they get sprayed with water, at Christmas time, would cause the public sentiment to turn too heavily against them.
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Dec 4, 2016 23:18
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punk rebel ecks posted:How do we reconcile with other corporations and companies moving their business elsewhere when we start nationalizing things? Threaten the owners and executives with imprisonment if they try to do that. Problem solved.
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Dec 4, 2016 23:18
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Fulchrum posted:Firehoses in the Dakota winter is definitely something that we can be glad the protesters don't have to suffer. Thank god for optics
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Dec 4, 2016 23:19
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Fulchrum posted:Mm yes I too remember how the DNC this year totally shunned any and all religion, leading up to the impassioned secular humanist speech of Mr. Barber, and the atheist Khan parents but please don't kid yourself that huffpo/wapo/etc were always beneficial to the DNC especially in a case like this
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Dec 4, 2016 23:21
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:same when did this happen
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Dec 4, 2016 23:22
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Tatum Girlparts posted:when did this happen
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Dec 4, 2016 23:23
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Fulchrum posted:Firehoses in the Dakota winter is definitely something that we can be glad the protesters don't have to suffer. i wanna know why public sentiment isn't already against them
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Dec 4, 2016 23:25
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old churches are cool
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Dec 4, 2016 23:25
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Latinks is marginally better than Latin-ats (latin@) I guess, but its still kind a dumb thing. Why not just drop the gendered ending altogether and go with Latin instead of some weird neologism if its a concern?
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Dec 4, 2016 23:27
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:you might have to take those huffpost-and-associates articles where we don't "need" religious people out of the memory hole Oh, yea, those idiots. Maybe it's me being in the south and all where that's just not a possibility but I never saw that gaining any actual traction.
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