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Can you summon Ifrit? You get his item but I have never have seen the option?
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Dec 5, 2016 00:04
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I think I need to move on with the main quest. I'm level 45 and still on Chapter 3.
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Dec 5, 2016 00:06
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ImpAtom posted:There are multiple summons but I'm not really clear on what determines which one is summoned. It's really unclear what he means by "kill." I think that Titan, Leviathan and Shiva are certainly dead, but that doesn't stop you from getting their blessing and them appearing in the world, both as a summon for us and just in general like Gentiana. So I'm not really sure what it means, just another example of the game not making sense. Think about the scene on the train when Gentiana shows up. Ardyn sees her and says, "oh it's you. You still are using same face as when we killed you" (or something like that). So the imperials definitely killed her, you even see her big corpse outside. Yet she still lives.
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Dec 5, 2016 00:09
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Zaphod42 posted:Solid theory. And incorrect. All of the summons have unique requirements. Ramuh's is just "be out in the field for a while" so he's the most often to pop. I don't know most of the others. Titan apparently shows up after an extended period of time spend with downed or dead party members.
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Dec 5, 2016 00:10
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For Leviathan to show up you need to be near water.
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Dec 5, 2016 00:10
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mikeraskol posted:It's really unclear what he means by "kill." I think that Titan, Leviathan and Shiva are certainly dead, but that doesn't stop you from getting their blessing and them appearing in the world, both as a summon for us and just in general like Gentiana. So I'm not really sure what it means, just another example of the game not making sense. Think about the scene on the train when Gentiana shows up. Ardyn sees her and says, "oh it's you. You still are using same face as when we killed you" (or something like that). So the imperials definitely killed her, you even see her big corpse outside. Yet she still lives. See, I assumed that what happened with Shiva is that the Empire killed A Shiva but as we see in her summon she's multiple beings so it basically was them not realizing Shiva was a hive-mind. I honestly didn't realize they killed Leviathan and Titan. How did they even? 
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Dec 5, 2016 00:12
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MrLonghair posted:Costlemark Tower completed, rewarding at the end, cool as hell there, hope the DLC expands. I really like it when the game goes "classic FF" in environments and all. Did you do the bonus part of Costlemark after the locked door? Oxxidation posted:And incorrect. All of the summons have unique requirements. Ramuh's is just "be out in the field for a while" so he's the most often to pop. Figures. This would be kinda cool if it was communicated to the player in any way. As it is, this is a complete chaotic mess.
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Dec 5, 2016 00:13
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ImpAtom posted:See, I assumed that what happened with Shiva is that the Empire killed A Shiva but as we see in her summon she's multiple beings so it basically was them not realizing Shiva was a hive-mind. I honestly didn't realize they killed Leviathan and Titan. How did they even? Well, I think we technically killed Leviathan. And you wouldn't know that Titan was killed except for an offhand comment I think one of your party member's makes in Altissia when he says something like "the empire killed Titan to try and stop you from getting his blessing, they are gonna come hard at Leviathan."
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Dec 5, 2016 00:14
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There are technically 5 summons you can use, but one of them is a one-time storyline-related one that you can't miss. Ramuh is going to be the most common because he just shows up periodically when a battle has been taking a while. For the others, there are some very specific triggers: Titan requires an ally to be incapacitated (I think both danger and dead count) and you have to be on the open world in a relatively open space - he seems to show up in the desert areas a lot more, and can't be summoned in a dungeon like Ramuh can) Leviathan requires Noct to be in danger mode and you have to be near water, so you'll probably never actually see this one unless you go back to an area like Vesperpool or that big lake with the catoblepases and get hurt on purpose. Shiva supposedly requires all the other triggers to be met at once (long battle, ally incapacitated, Noct incapacitated), so you'll probably see her way less than Ramuh and Titan but more than Leviathan. However, there seems to be at least some randomness to it too, some people get summons when none of the conditions have been met and I have no idea why. It's not a great system because it's highly likely that you finish the game without seeing half of them even a single time, but it definitely feels epic as hell when you do.
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Dec 5, 2016 00:14
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mikeraskol posted:Well, I think we technically killed Leviathan. And you wouldn't know that Titan was killed except for an offhand comment I think one of your party member's makes in Altissia when he says something like "the empire killed Titan to try and stop you from getting his blessing, they are gonna come hard at Leviathan." And yet you still get both their blessings, and can still summon them both. And also the Imperials show up to attack Leviathan in the cutscene... then disappear. The story in this game is in shambles, even for an FF game. Its still super fun but man none of this is done in a good way.
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Dec 5, 2016 00:16
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:
This is at least slightly inaccurate. I had Titan pop in Insomnia. It actually looked really cool. Spoiler image!:http://i.imgur.com/jweHMs2.jpg
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Dec 5, 2016 00:16
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Zaphod42 posted:The story in this game is in shambles, even for an FF game. Its still super fun but man none of this is done in a good way. Oh for sure. Complete shambles. Still love this game though.
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Dec 5, 2016 00:17
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ImpAtom posted:This is at least slightly inaccurate. I had Titan pop in Insomnia. It actually looked really cool. You get a random summon at that point that doesn't adhere to any of the requirements. I had Shiva pop up with a slightly different animation . I think there are a few parts in the story where that can happen, but if you are just roaming around the open world the requirements come into play. edit: I hope they add a bunch of summons in the DLC, there's so many classic FF gods that would be awesome as hell to see. The summon animations are just great and really convey how powerful they are in a way no other game in the series has even come close to. Grizzled Patriarch fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Dec 5, 2016 |
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Dec 5, 2016 00:20
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:You get a random summon at that point that doesn't adhere to any of the requirements. I had Shiva pop up with a slightly different animation . I think there are a few parts in the story where that can happen, but if you are just roaming around the open world the requirements come into play. Oh, no, this was prior to that scene, it was when I was fighting the big deathclaw thing and it wiped my entire party except Noct with a laser blast. I had Shiva pop up there too with the altered animation.
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Dec 5, 2016 00:21
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Finally finished. Loved the story, but wish it was presented better. Loved that the villain was basically evil jesus but I wish everything had a little more time to breathe. There were some amazing moments though. The face ardyn makes when Luna tells him "all in thrall to darkness shall know peace" as she's dying and healing him or whatever, conveyed so much. Imagine a game full of moments like that
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Dec 5, 2016 00:23
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ImpAtom posted:Oh, no, this was prior to that scene, it was when I was fighting the big deathclaw thing and it wiped my entire party except Noct with a laser blast. I had Shiva pop up there too with the altered animation. Huh, weird. I wonder if that whole area just has relaxed rules or something, because I also got to summon Ramuh twice in like 5 minutes there and that's apparently not supposed to happen, since there's some built-in, relatively long timer between being allowed to summon.
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Dec 5, 2016 00:24
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I think this Takka quest is broken. He wants me to get Catoblepas brisket but I've done the hunt for it twice now and it only drops the fang, so I dunno where to get this meat at
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Dec 5, 2016 00:24
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:Huh, weird. I wonder if that whole area just has relaxed rules or something, because I also got to summon Ramuh twice in like 5 minutes there and that's apparently not supposed to happen, since there's some built-in, relatively long timer between being allowed to summon. That area having relaxed rules would make a lot of sense. I wouldn't be surprised if you're expected to summon-rush your way through the initial enemy hordes considering some of their relative power levels if you get them at a low level.
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Dec 5, 2016 00:25
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8-Bit Scholar posted:I think this Takka quest is broken. He wants me to get Catoblepas brisket but I've done the hunt for it twice now and it only drops the fang, so I dunno where to get this meat at Let me google that for you  Internet says its RNG. You can get treasures without being on the quest, so its not bugged its just lovely old RNG game design.
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Dec 5, 2016 00:25
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8-Bit Scholar posted:I think this Takka quest is broken. He wants me to get Catoblepas brisket but I've done the hunt for it twice now and it only drops the fang, so I dunno where to get this meat at Gotta keep killin that thing, it's not a guaranteed drop
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Dec 5, 2016 00:27
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ImpAtom posted:That area having relaxed rules would make a lot of sense. I wouldn't be surprised if you're expected to summon-rush your way through the initial enemy hordes considering some of their relative power levels if you get them at a low level. Yeah, I didn't even consider that, but you're probably exactly right. I definitely balked a little when I showed up at level 50 and the first enemy was a level 70-something deathclaw.
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Dec 5, 2016 00:28
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The way you summon cutiepup is to get chain-hosed by one of the final encounters in Costlemark got it three times in a row in short succession, what an rear end in a top hat encounter.
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Dec 5, 2016 00:29
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ImpAtom posted:That area having relaxed rules would make a lot of sense. I wouldn't be surprised if you're expected to summon-rush your way through the initial enemy hordes considering some of their relative power levels if you get them at a low level. I summoned Leviathan during the fight with the Behemoth King. I hope the city did okay with the giant tsunami that its king summoned in the middle of it.
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Dec 5, 2016 00:28
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Ethiser posted:I summoned Leviathan during the fight with the Behemoth King. I hope the city did okay with the giant tsunami that its king summoned in the middle of it. Summons don't have friendly fire 
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Dec 5, 2016 00:38
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Yodzilla posted:I hated the chocobo photography quest. Yeah let's put this in an old boss arena that you can only access through one little hole in a massive walled area and are blocked from the other entrance and oh yeah you can't fast travel out of it because reasons. too true, I ran all the way around like 320 degrees of that loving area because I went the wrong way and the map resolution is poo poo before saying gently caress it I'll come back to this later. that wins my vote for most frustrating quest I have yet to complete.
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Dec 5, 2016 00:42
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:There are technically 5 summons you can use, but one of them is a one-time storyline-related one that you can't miss. Ramuh is going to be the most common because he just shows up periodically when a battle has been taking a while. Since receiving Ramuh and Titan I have had the Ramuh summon prompt show up twice and every time I tried to hold L2 to trigger it it just wouldn't loving take... so I have yet to actually utilize any of the summons I've earned.
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Dec 5, 2016 00:44
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MMD3 posted:Since receiving Ramuh and Titan I have had the Ramuh summon prompt show up twice and every time I tried to hold L2 to trigger it it just wouldn't loving take... so I have yet to actually utilize any of the summons I've earned. You have to hold it for an abnormally long time.
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Dec 5, 2016 00:45
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The way I've rationalized the Summons showing up even when storywise they shouldn't is that, as they are the gods of the setting, they are immortal much like Ardyn is, where we see him literally get frozen and shattered into a thousand pieces by Shiva and yet he's back not ten minutes later except their immortality is an innate trait they possess unlike that spoiler example, so even when you kill their mortal forms they can incarnate again to help you out.
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Dec 5, 2016 00:58
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Alright, I'm done with this game for the time being. As far as I can tell, right now this game is just a fuckload of nice touches and positive feedback loops over a glitchy, bland open world and a mediocre-to-bad combat system. So I guess the team did manage to master the Bethesda-style open world Maybe it'll be better in a year.
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Dec 5, 2016 00:58
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Combat system actually owns
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Dec 5, 2016 01:07
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Holy poo poo chapter 13 did I really just coincidentally fall down to a place where yet another named character has now died off screen and who has also has one of the weapons I've been looking for
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Dec 5, 2016 01:17
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Trick Question posted:Alright, I'm done with this game for the time being. I think the combat is good but parry counterattacks are my fetish so maybe not the most unbias'd.
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Dec 5, 2016 01:17
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drat, this thread moves fast. I've been playing the game since Thursday and I'm loving it. There's a lot of charm, and the combat is pretty great. There's a bit more to it than I expected and it's just really fun. I've unlocked Titan, but there seems to be a lot of black bars around summons in this thread so all I've caught is that they have triggers. I guess I won't be seeing my new shiny summon very often?
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Dec 5, 2016 01:18
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I've seen the opportunity for one to appear twice in 36 hours played.
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Dec 5, 2016 01:19
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CrashScreen posted:drat, this thread moves fast. Summons basically only show up if you get damaged a whole lot, more or less.
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Dec 5, 2016 01:20
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so if you're good you'll never see a summon. neat!
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Dec 5, 2016 01:23
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ImpAtom posted:FFXV's music kicks the everliving poo poo out of XCX.) Wrong.
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Dec 5, 2016 01:24
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How bad is Costlemark Tower? Already did the sewer dungeon, which was fine if a bit annoying at times. Just hovering around level 52.
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Dec 5, 2016 01:25
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ApplesandOranges posted:How bad is Costlemark Tower? Already did the sewer dungeon, which was fine if a bit annoying at times. Just hovering around level 52. Do you enjoy fighting Red Giants and Yojimbos
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Dec 5, 2016 01:33
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I hope they optimize the game further because it takes forever to fast travel anywhere in this game. Usually I drive around and it's fine but for those couple times I want to turn in some dumb thing I rather go quick.
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