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Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax

Jimmy Little Balls posted:

Everyone here does drive really slowly though. Pulling out onto a major road? Do it at 5mph right in the path of an oncoming vehicle. Need to turn left? Just drive at walking speed in the middle lane and then cut across the front of someone as late as possible without looking, bonus points for slamming on your brakes for no reason. But yeah, I don't think I've ever seen anyone going faster than about 40mph in the city, even on the highways 60mph is about the max. I've seen surprisingly few accidents here, and never any serious ones.
Are you enjoying 5000 years of history in GZ? Here in Shenzhen they take corners at whatever maximum speed possible and half the time don't honk. Most cars here, especially if they are BMW or other rich people cars, give you three options: 1) Run as fast as possible since they won't slow down for you cross the street, 2) Hit you, or 3) Swerve around you at the last second, but close enough that you curse 10 generations of their ancestors.
I loving hate the drivers here and I can't believe there are so many that can be so drat bad at it. They are only list, along with the old people.

Something that bothers me a lot are the taxis and Ubers that stop right at the cross walk and block every person trying to cross. It's so god drat selfish and stupid. They always do it (at least here) and then 40 people have to divide and go around, sometimes while the car is still trying to pull away or forward and being more obnoxious. Today while crossing, myself and like 5 other people were cut off by this tactic and the dipshit passenger flung the door open on the people standing there, hitting one person and getting me in the hand. It was all so fast I didn't realize it was happening, but still, selfish idiots with cars or in cars are the epitome of Chinese culture.

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ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

if you come to thailand please bring your phone and all the pictures contained therein thanks and god bless

aeglus
Jul 13, 2003

WEEK 1 - RETIRED
I'm sure as long as it isn't about drugs they won't bother but you know wechat stores chatlogs and deleting what you write won't help at all if police actually ask the company for chat logs. Especially if it isn't a recall since delete only deletes what you wrote on your own phone.

But seriously even with all the foreigner hate they'd probably just chastise whoever says Haier raped them for admitting to sexing up a foreign devil.

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
Pillbug

aeglus posted:

I'm sure as long as it isn't about drugs they won't bother but you know wechat stores chatlogs and deleting what you write won't help at all if police actually ask the company for chat logs.

This implies that the police in china would actually do something requiring effort.

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax

aeglus posted:

I'm sure as long as it isn't about drugs they won't bother but you know wechat stores chatlogs and deleting what you write won't help at all if police actually ask the company for chat logs. Especially if it isn't a recall since delete only deletes what you wrote on your own phone.

But seriously even with all the foreigner hate they'd probably just chastise whoever says Haier raped them for admitting to sexing up a foreign devil.
I am sure, but all I did was delete my own dick pics. Regardless, reading it will prove a lot of things, including her saying she wanted to do XYZ in my house, and me saying I wasn't up to it. Either way, foreigners lose no matter what the truth is.

She lives with her parents (I found out like the night before) and she has a good job. She also said she had a boyfriend, so I was against meeting her, but when she told me about him I realized he's just keeping her as a booty call for when he comes here 2-3 times per year for a day at a time for business. She said she has no idea what he does in his home province, but she knows a younger guy with money in China doesn't stick to one girl.
Add all this up, and I feel like she would just be bringing shame to herself if she made a mess out of all of this, since her parents would scold her, they might know about her BF and scold her again for meeting another guy, and I am sure it would make its way back to her job or friends. Playing the victim only goes so far in this culture. She met me and knows I am not rich in the sense that she would think of rich, since she obviously comes from a lot of money.

I think nothing will happen, but I did worry that first night. She honestly just seems like a horny girl and I doubt I was the only one she was talking to. She may have moved on to the next guy already, and living with her parents at her age says a lot and she probably doesn't want to disappoint them too much if she reveals her actions.

At least that's what i am telling myself right now.

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Accretionist posted:

Where did you get these? I want more, you see.

from my WeChat moments and chat groups

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

The Great Autismo! posted:

from my WeChat moments and chat groups



The next Call of Duty brown filter is looking good.

OctaviusBeaver
Apr 30, 2009

Say what now?
Talking about Chinese prison reminded me about the episode of TAL where they interview an American who got into some kind of tussle with a Chinese guy and, because he is a foreigner, the cops blame him for it. He gets stuck in jail for months without seeing a judge or being charged with anything. He keeps trying to get it resolved through the legal system but that doesn't work because they just want bribes and he won't pay. Eventually they let him go with no charges for some reason. They have a poetry competition in the jail and he wins.

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/448/adventure

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Ceciltron posted:

This implies that the police in china would actually do something requiring effort.

You'd be surprised how fast they snap into action when a Chinese girl and her family come to them and say, "do you want to extort a foreigner? you'll get a cut as well.".

MullardEL34
Sep 30, 2008

Basking in the cathode glow
Lol Trump is currently shitposting on twitter about Chinese currency manipulation, forcing us companies into joint ventures, and the South China Sea.
So much face will be lost.

fish and chips and dip
Feb 17, 2010

Haier posted:

Are you enjoying 5000 years of history in GZ? Here in Shenzhen they take corners at whatever maximum speed possible and half the time don't honk. Most cars here, especially if they are BMW or other rich people cars, give you three options: 1) Run as fast as possible since they won't slow down for you cross the street, 2) Hit you, or 3) Swerve around you at the last second, but close enough that you curse 10 generations of their ancestors.
I loving hate the drivers here and I can't believe there are so many that can be so drat bad at it. They are only list, along with the old people.

Something that bothers me a lot are the taxis and Ubers that stop right at the cross walk and block every person trying to cross. It's so god drat selfish and stupid. They always do it (at least here) and then 40 people have to divide and go around, sometimes while the car is still trying to pull away or forward and being more obnoxious. Today while crossing, myself and like 5 other people were cut off by this tactic and the dipshit passenger flung the door open on the people standing there, hitting one person and getting me in the hand. It was all so fast I didn't realize it was happening, but still, selfish idiots with cars or in cars are the epitome of Chinese culture.

Traffic, oh god. I've nearly gotten into fights with drivers because I can't stop loving with them while crossing the street. It's childish as hell and it's just asking for getting beat (a miracle that I haven't gotten beaten yet) but the self-righteous smug satisfaction you get for putting assholes in their place is just so drat addicting. I have to stop though, before I gently caress with the wrong person and get beaten, or worse.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


OctaviusBeaver posted:

Eventually they let him go with no charges for some reason.

There's a time limit. I may have the exact timescale off but when you're arrested there's a max of three months to work on the case, which can be extended once. If they don't charge you they can hold you for six months and one day before they have to release you. As a whitey they seem to respect this law, I've seen multiple stories where the guy was released without charges and it's always the same where they hold the maximum time and then have to let him go. They won't bring it to trial unless it's guaranteed since they have the whole Asian 99%+ conviction rate thing.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


fish and chips and dip posted:

Traffic, oh god. I've nearly gotten into fights with drivers because I can't stop loving with them while crossing the street. It's childish as hell and it's just asking for getting beat (a miracle that I haven't gotten beaten yet) but the self-righteous smug satisfaction you get for putting assholes in their place is just so drat addicting. I have to stop though, before I gently caress with the wrong person and get beaten, or worse.

I do the same thing and expect it's how I will die.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
im the lady and trump is teh man

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

Grand Fromage posted:

I do the same thing and expect it's how I will die.

How exactly do you gently caress with them? Stand in front and give them the finger? You'd get run over pretty much anywhere in the world for that.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Deceitful Penguin posted:

im the lady and trump is teh man



thank goodness she didnt fall in the water that would have been a catastrophe

fortunately ming dynasty superman was there to save her from much face loss

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBf1HgicEysNemRPJ-ptUuQ/feed

Shaw Brothers are uploading their movies onto Youtube. Some are dubbed, some aren't. Memorieeeees.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Deceitful Penguin posted:

im the lady and trump is teh man



<Ugh! every loving Chinese period show that doesn't involve the Civil War/WWII>

My father in law was blown away by the sword fight at the end of Rob Roy, and we watched it two times in a row so he could see it again. Everything in mainstream Chinese cinema/tv is so fake and flowery that a dose of realism is really jarring when they are exposed to it. He also (by the time he left after a year) was leaning more towards the acting and editing of western shows, as the more he watched them, the more cartoonish/childish Chinese tv/movies were starting to appear to him.

He also got a kick out of Band of Brothers and was a little squeamish when watching parts of "The Pacific" (realistic blood an gore instead of horrible CGI blood). While he loves to watch war movies, he was surprised to see things like people breaking down in Saving Private Ryan/Das Boot/Der Untergang. He watched "Flags of our Fathers" and said that they would never portray Chinese heroes like that (human and flawed) because they were taught all the Chinese heroes were "perfect". He also watched "Letters from Iwo Jima" and at the end remarked that it was sort of sad for the Japanese soldiers, since they had been abandoned and had no chance.

He asked if the CGI task force that showed up in the movie was in any way realistic, and if it was just depicted as that many ships to look impressive and I showed him this picture of task force 58 and told him that there were ~450 ships involved in the landings at Iwo Jima. He had to go outside for a smoke, then came back and had my wife translate for us so we could have a more in-depth discussion about the US role in the War in the Pacific (much to my wife's chagrin). He still believes that Mao dealt a massive blow to the Japanese, but after seeing the documentary "WWII in colour", and watching all that footage of Japanese ships/planes being destroyed and the bombing of the Home Islands, he realized that the US was the real force in defeating them, despite the massive amounts of indoctrination his generation received regarding the subject.

fish and chips and dip
Feb 17, 2010

Outrail posted:

How exactly do you gently caress with them? Stand in front and give them the finger? You'd get run over pretty much anywhere in the world for that.

I like the umbrella trick. Put the umbrella in front of you before crossing the street, about the height of the drivers head. Usually they'll stop, and if not they'll hit the umbrella (which is soft and won't damage the car or windshield) then get out and shout.

Well What Now
Nov 10, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Shredded Hen
China did play a huge role in Japan's defeat because that's where the vast majority of their huge army was stationed throughout the war, meaning they couldn't use them to protect all those islands that were hard enough for the US to take as it was.

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Well What Now posted:

China did play a huge role in Japan's defeat because that's where the vast majority of their huge army was stationed throughout the war, meaning they couldn't use them to protect all those islands that were hard enough for the US to take as it was.

They also ensured the japanese swords were dull from overuse.

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


If the Japanese army and Japanese marines were stationed in the same island they'd probably kill each other more than the Americans.

Assuming they don't starve from the army and navy trying to sabotage each other.

Koramei
Nov 11, 2011

I have three regrets
The first is to be born in Joseon.
There's a case to be made that even without US intervention, the Chinese would have eventually driven the Japanese out anyway, the Japanese situation especially logistically was not sustainable. We also really don't acknowledge what happened in China nearly as much as we should in the west. Mao himself had poo poo all to do with it though.

The Korean stance frustrates me more. "If it weren't for An Jung-geun, I'd be speaking in Japanese to you now!"

Well What Now
Nov 10, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Shredded Hen
the first B-29 raids on Japan were flown out from the vicinity of Chengdu in mid-1944

Mao was anxious to get US recognition and gave every assistance to Curtis LeMay, who later recalled that Mao offered to build as many airfields as LeMay wanted in Commie-held territory, but LeMay had to turn him down because they could barely keep the Chengdu bases supplied because everything had to be flown over the Himalayas from India

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Koramei posted:

There's a case to be made that even without US intervention, the Chinese would have eventually driven the Japanese out anyway, the Japanese situation especially logistically was not sustainable. We also really don't acknowledge what happened in China nearly as much as we should in the west. Mao himself had poo poo all to do with it though.

The Korean stance frustrates me more. "If it weren't for An Jung-geun, I'd be speaking in Japanese to you now!"

I don't think the Japanese planned to literally occupy them forever so much as appoint a series of puppets to rule for them like in Manchuria

Koramei
Nov 11, 2011

I have three regrets
The first is to be born in Joseon.
Manchuria wasn't just a series of puppets, there was an occupation force and sizeable Japanese immigration. You'd have to ask in the milhist thread for an answer from people that know more about it, but from my understanding the Japanese were already straining past their limits with what they held at the time the Americans intervened, let alone being able to take any more than that. If there hadn't been a war in the Pacific then the cost in life would obviously have been absolutely horrific, even more than it already was. But there was never gonna be a wholly Japanese China.

P-Mack
Nov 10, 2007

Well What Now posted:

the first B-29 raids on Japan were flown out from the vicinity of Chengdu in mid-1944

Mao was anxious to get US recognition and gave every assistance to Curtis LeMay, who later recalled that Mao offered to build as many airfields as LeMay wanted in Commie-held territory, but LeMay had to turn him down because they could barely keep the Chengdu bases supplied because everything had to be flown over the Himalayas from India

Yeah there was a huge slapfight between Chiang and Stilwell over whether the limited logistical throughput was going to go to support Air Force operations in China or to the front in Burma. They eventually got a road and pipeline built just in time for the war to end. Still, its existence suggests that even if the Japanese had somehow done much better in the Pacific their hold on China could still be insecure. (To say nothing of the USSR looming in the background. Japanese strategy was an incredible string of doubling down on a losing hand.)

P-Mack
Nov 10, 2007

Koramei posted:

Manchuria wasn't just a series of puppets, there was an occupation force and sizeable Japanese immigration. You'd have to ask in the milhist thread for an answer from people that know more about it, but from my understanding the Japanese were already straining past their limits with what they held at the time the Americans intervened, let alone being able to take any more than that. If there hadn't been a war in the Pacific then the cost in life would obviously have been absolutely horrific, even more than it already was. But there was never gonna be a wholly Japanese China.

They were able to hit hard and take territory even late in the war in the Ichi Go offensive, but yeah they couldn't afford to hold it. You look at maps in textbooks of the territory they controlled and it's pretty impressive at first glance. But if you upped the resolution it would transform into a thin spiderweb of strategic cities and the roads between them with huge areas left ungarrisoned. The long term solution would be a puppet government under Wang Jingwei or some such, but the short term solution was "kill all, loot all, burn all" which kind of undermined the hearts and minds approach.

Modest Mao
Feb 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747

Grand Fromage posted:

There's a time limit. I may have the exact timescale off but when you're arrested there's a max of three months to work on the case, which can be extended once. If they don't charge you they can hold you for six months and one day before they have to release you. As a whitey they seem to respect this law, I've seen multiple stories where the guy was released without charges and it's always the same where they hold the maximum time and then have to let him go. They won't bring it to trial unless it's guaranteed since they have the whole Asian 99%+ conviction rate thing.

America's is 95%+ but we're only ~5% asian

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax
Copy/paste of an edited meme from r/China

fish and chips and dip
Feb 17, 2010
The Taiwan call was blamed on Trumps inexperience in a fair and totally not biased editorial in the Global Times. See! It's the US who lost face and not China! :smug:

Blast of Confetti
Apr 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

fish and chips and dip posted:

The Taiwan call was blamed on Trumps inexperience in a fair and totally not biased editorial in the Global Times. See! It's the US who lost face and not China! :smug:

if anything this election has proved that nobody in the us gives a gently caress about how we look to others

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
That is more funny than it should be.

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

nuh uh, trump totally had this planned out since before the primaries! face saved!

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011

oohhboy posted:

That is more funny than it should be.

It's the crab pose and angry eyes

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
if you didn't know trump also went on a little twitter rant whining about china




while im no big fan of the prc i have to say this sort of thing doesnt help anybody.

Let us English
Feb 21, 2004

Actual photo of Let Us English, probably seen here waking his wife up in the morning talking about chemical formulae when all she wants is a hot cup of shhhhh

Modest Mao posted:

America's is 95%+ but we're only ~5% asian

Federal conviction rate != national conviction rate. If we go state by state: 84% in Texas, 82% in California, 72% in New York, 67% in North Carolina, and 59% in Florida.

Troll harder next time.

Let us English
Feb 21, 2004

Actual photo of Let Us English, probably seen here waking his wife up in the morning talking about chemical formulae when all she wants is a hot cup of shhhhh
I've lived abroad most of my adult life. Trump talking to Taiwan is the first time my parents ever reached out to me because they were concerned by what they saw on the news.

BONGHITZ
Jan 1, 1970

At least you are talking to your parents again

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Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


I got the concerned emails in Korea. When KJU first took over and they had their big new leader pissing match it was constant since the US media was playing it up like the end of the world is nigh. If I hadn't been watching/reading US stuff I wouldn't have known anything was going on, nobody in SK gives a poo poo when NK has their temper tantrums.

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