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Zane posted:in star trek it was a uniform analogy at least which everyone could 'get' as part of a broader theme. the asari are extra funny because there had to be a conversation at bioware at some point where they collectively said "hmm, yeah, we'll use this setting to think post-anthropocentrica-- Paramount generally put more thought into it, whenever they could get away from Gene Roddenberry. The Klingons were the Soviet Union, the Vulans were the British Empire/UK, the Romulans were China, the Ferengi were the logical conclusion of the United States, and so on and so forth. It let you tell stories like The Undiscovered Country, which was the Berlin Wall coming down in space. Bioware does not take that approach.
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That part at the end of Mass Effect 1 where you can choose to let the whole ship full of asari die loving owned.
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Dec 5, 2016 01:49
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ME1 was good and cool and I was euphoric telling Ashley that god was ducking dumb
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the good fax machine posted:That part at the end of Mass Effect 1 where you can choose to let the whole ship full of asari die loving owned. That slowboat past them and all the Asari are lookin on like "are you fuckin' for real right now."
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Dec 5, 2016 02:03
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Zane posted:in star trek it was a uniform analogy at least which everyone could 'get' was part of a broader theme. the asari are extra funny because there had to be a conversation at bioware at some point where they collectively said "hmm, yeah, we'll use this setting to think post-anthropocentrica-- Please add in a twist where the Asari are actually these little crustacean-y things who have been using biological encounter suits to make it easier to interact with other species. Each 'Asari' is a colony of several hundred shrimpthings piloting the body like a spaceship. Nobody has told the humans yet because they know they're sensitive about things like that.
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Speaking of Asari, do we know yet what they really look like in the face? As in, what they look like to each other?
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What you see is what you get. They actually do look like that. It's just that each species focuses on the parts that matter most to them. So they've got human snouts, salarian torsos, turian crests, hanar pigmentation, volus bank accounts, krogan headbutting abilities, etc.
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Dec 5, 2016 02:37
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El Jeffe posted:Speaking of Asari, do we know yet what they really look like in the face? As in, what they look like to each other? 
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Zane posted:The way bioware chases progressive gender nonconformity in their romances while simultaneously failing with their setting to think even vaguely about how different aliens species might not comport with conventional human standards of masculinity and femininity is hilarious to me and very revealing. What does it reveal? When it comes to loving people ("character development") they can think a little outside the box. When it comes to writing a creative sci-fi setting around interesting ideas (in which those characters exist) on the other hand??? they can only think of a tribute to the action-adventure films of the 1970s and 80s within the template of the same fantasy plot they've always written. Bioware bangs the 'we're progressive' drum as hard as they can and yet barely do anything that could be considered controversial. The closest they get, I guess, is Krem. You'd think they could make Iron Bull a woman or something. Wouldn't that have been a twist.
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Bongo Bill posted:What you see is what you get. They actually do look like that. It's just that each species focuses on the parts that matter most to them. So they've got human snouts, salarian torsos, turian crests, hanar pigmentation, volus bank accounts, krogan headbutting abilities, etc. Well this would imply that they have a psychic thing going on making them attractive to anyone looking at them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ7r80IOxtE&t=102s But I guess it's ambiguous enough that you may be right.
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El Jeffe posted:Well this would imply that they have a psychic thing going on making them attractive to anyone looking at them: The psychic thing is an interesting idea that doesn't withstand a moment of scrutiny - for example, what happens when someone views recorded footage of an Asari? The idea is just bad. Let's be honest, Asari don't look anything like Salarians. The Turian fringe comment has some merit but just look at an Asari's facial features compared to a Turian.
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Milky Moor posted:The psychic thing is an interesting idea that doesn't withstand a moment of scrutiny - for example, what happens when someone views recorded footage of an Asari? Which would be explained by the psychic thing. As for the video footage thing, uhhh plothole 
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Asari's are just sorta a boring idea of a race. They're pretty lame. But the boring races are probably the ones the writer's are most confident players won't reject for being too alien or strange. Which is why we're never getting an Elcor or Hanar party member. 
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Maybe the Asari are just how your dad looks at your mom, he knows she ain't nothing much but he's willing to convince himself otherwise to get his nut
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:[Guy with big boobed anime 'tar voice] actually, citadel sounds insanely good to me You get to have a party and everyone gets drunk and you can play space-claw-machine with Zaeed and yell at the claw. It's a good expansion 
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Dec 5, 2016 03:53
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Actually it's extremely silly stuff for manchildren
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Dec 5, 2016 03:54
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:manchildren  Says the guy who obsessively posts in this thread.
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Dec 5, 2016 03:59
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Yes posting in a thread is much more immature than enjoying the DLC where you go on dates with your squad of combat aliens
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:Yes posting in a thread is much more immature than enjoying the DLC where you go on dates with your squad of combat aliens
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:Yes posting in a thread is much more immature than enjoying the DLC where you go on dates with your squad of combat aliens I like your posts and I think you're right in that you think ME3 is a giant pile of poo poo and then you go and say citadel is bad and I just get all confused.
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comatose posted:I like your posts and I think you're right in that you think ME3 is a giant pile of poo poo and then you go and say citadel is bad and I just get all confused. I like Citadel but it does suffer from a lot of the same problems as ME3 ("why am I doing anything non-essential when millions are dying on Earth each day?"). Its saving grace is that its nonsense is of the feel-good, comfort food variety.
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Dec 5, 2016 04:56
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comatose posted:I like your posts and I think you're right in that you think ME3 is a giant pile of poo poo and then you go and say citadel is bad and I just get all confused. Citadel was fun but it was exceptionally stupid and out of place and frankly anything short of pure AiDS that was released after the ME3 debacle was going to be well received even if it was exceptionally stupid. If they had sealed up ME3 in a halfway competent way and then released citadel it still would have still been stupid but it would have been a silly romp, instead it's a sign of the tumblrification of bioware at the expense of good game making.
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midwat posted:I like Citadel but it does suffer from a lot of the same problems as ME3 ("why am I doing anything non-essential when millions are dying on Earth each day?"). Its saving grace is that its nonsense is of the feel-good, comfort food variety. Which is really an issue with the ending, since Citadel is clearly going for a post-game feel and there wasn't the option for that to happen.
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Dec 5, 2016 05:05
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What was the phrase that was tossed around a bunch during the initial ending kerfluffle? Narrative coherence, right? It's the idea that if your narrative is coherent you'll get the player to suspend her belief and ignore minor inconsistencies and subsume herself in the world. Well, there's nothing coherent about having a loving house party in Captain Anderson's citadel gently caress-pad while the reapers are turning everyone on earth into jelly. So for many people it's nearly impossible to ignore this and really get into the content.
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Dec 5, 2016 05:10
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:tumblrification 
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Dec 5, 2016 05:13
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bioware is full of SJW cucks, is what he's saying
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Dec 5, 2016 05:15
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El Jeffe posted:Well this would imply that they have a psychic thing going on making them attractive to anyone looking at them: There is no sex or telepathy in the champagne room.
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midwat posted:I like Citadel but it does suffer from a lot of the same problems as ME3 ("why am I doing anything non-essential when millions are dying on Earth each day?"). Its saving grace is that its nonsense is of the feel-good, comfort food variety. Citadel is not meant to take place during the main story. I'm pretty sure that either during ME2 or ME3, Bioware said that DLC could not take place after the main quest due to publisher mandate. It's the same as Arrival in ME2. Remember, you could do Arrival at any point post Horizon despite the fact it would make zero sense to transpire then. Well, hope this helps.
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Milky Moor posted:Citadel is not meant to take place during the main story. I'm pretty sure that either during ME2 or ME3, Bioware said that DLC could not take place after the main quest due to publisher mandate. Then I guess the issue would be that there isn't a logical time when it could happen. Again, I do think it's a fun romp, but I could see how someone might be turned off by it.
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It's possible to believe that gender is a big spectrum and fluid and also think tumblr is a huge shithole!!!
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midwat posted:Then I guess the issue would be that there isn't a logical time when it could happen. Yes there is. After the game. You pick Destroy, skip through all the cutscenes, then you load the game pre-Earth and play Citadel.
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:It's possible to believe that gender is a big spectrum and fluid and also think tumblr is a huge shithole!!! I thought it was just for porn.
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:Yes posting in a thread is much more immature than enjoying the DLC where you go on dates with your squad of combat aliens Go on dates? What kind of middle school bullshit is this? I hosed those aliens raw my friend.
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:It's possible to believe that gender is a big spectrum and fluid and also think tumblr is a huge shithole!!! Okay I can't actually argue with a single point made in this post, well done.
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:It's possible to believe that gender is a big spectrum and fluid and also think tumblr is a huge shithole!!! Well, yes, obviously, but blaming tumblr for stuff is pretty much synonymous with blaming SJW cucks at this point, so that's how it's going to read to a lot of people. hth
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Citadel is a fever dream shep has right before he wakes up at the end of the one true ending of ME3.
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Milky Moor posted:Yes there is. After the game. You pick Destroy, skip through all the cutscenes, then you load the game pre-Earth and play Citadel. Wish I could do this. I really do. Man, if Clone Shepard had waited, like, a week, he could've shown up and everybody would've been cool about it. Scherloch posted:Well, yes, obviously, but blaming tumblr for stuff is pretty much synonymous with blaming SJW cucks at this point, so that's how it's going to read to a lot of people. hth Is it not common knowledge that tumblr sucks? The day we can't blame it for poo poo is the day the terrorists win. midwat fucked around with this message at 05:58 on Dec 5, 2016 |
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Just watched the Andromeda trailer and it looks like there is good spaceshooting to be done along a nice soundtrack (very similar to Behavior which is cool). Promising MP at least? However the moment that it showed Ryder scanning and trailer voiceover guy saying "IT WILL BE CRITICAL FOR YOUR SUCCESS" aw come on. Also, the disarm interrupt was lmao
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Mass Effect 3 is dumb, but some parts of it are dumb in a good way. Of course, Mass Effect at its smartest was only ever smart by video game standards.
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