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skipThings posted:goes just bourgie liberliasm Champagne socialism please.
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We just had a close brush with 1938. But I'll be damned if this does not give me back the faith into my fellow Austrians.
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Riso posted:Gericht hat eine Wiederholung verlangt, aber das Wählerregister wurde aktualisiert, daher wäre noch eine Möglichkeit zur Anfechtung offen.. Ehrlich, löst euch auf. Geht zur UNO in New York und füllt so nen Antrag zur Staatsliquidierung aus. Die ganze Clownshow is doch schon lange kein richtiges Land mehr. Sogar der Kongo kriegt ne Wahl hin.
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Hammerstein posted:We just had a close brush with 1938. God, does everything have to be Hitler with you people. Why can't it be Dollfuss just one time?
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Riso posted:God, does everything have to be Hitler with you people. well dollfuss never amounted to anything, unlike hitler
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Dec 4, 2016 17:51
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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blowfish posted:same really really old imagemacro from around 2000 or thereabout. also my spirit waifu
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Just saw that 69% of the votes have already been counted and vdB is still very clearly in the lead, time to celebrate  e: wehe wenn ich's jetzt irgendwie verschrien hab damit 
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Riso posted:God, does everything have to be Hitler with you people. No, it's only Hitler when it's...well...actually Hitler. You know: stuff like contacts to the Neonazi scene and to proto-facists.... If it heils like a Hitler and goose-steps like a Hitler, then it just might be a Hitler.
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Riso posted:God, does everything have to be Hitler with you people. Dollfuß ist der Gottseibeiuns der ÖVP. Hitler ist in diesem Kontext schon korrekt.
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Dec 4, 2016 18:03
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I guess I always judged Riso wrong. Sorry, didn't know you actually are a Klerikalfaschist, that flavour of Kerzerlschlecker is quite rare.
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Dec 4, 2016 18:04
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Ich fordere Anfechtung, einmal will ich den Hofer noch verlieren sehn.
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Klerikalfaschismus ist die erbärmlichste Spielart des Faschismus. Ein typisch österreichisches Produkt.
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JaucheCharly posted:Klerikalfaschismus ist die erbärmlichste Spielart des Faschismus. Ein typisch österreichisches Produkt. Es gibt noch viele andere Staaten die dem Klerikalfaschismus zuzurechnen sind. zum Beispiel: Portugal Spanien Argentinien Rumänien Ungarn Brasilien Kroatien
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Dec 4, 2016 18:35
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Is this the first Green head of state?
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Looks like it, I can't think of any other leftist/green president in Europe. The results are interesting, since VdB winning by 6% was more than unexpected (reverse Trump effect). As Austrian I think that a lot of people realized that the tool of the "Denkzettelwahl" can backfire badly.
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As far as I can see the only municipality where Hofer did not lose badly compared to the first run-off election is Puchenstuben, a 315-people village in southern Lower Austria. Does anyone have an idea why that would be? Local politics seem to be mostly social democrat instead. Anywhere else vdB's share of the votes increased in a big way
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I'm sure they have a lot of problems with immigrants in their sleepy village, nestled between the beautiful landscape. In the village pub they still tell the horror story of the one time, when their mayor saw a black man....
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System Metternich posted:As far as I can see the only municipality where Hofer did not lose badly compared to the first run-off election is Puchenstuben, a 315-people village in southern Lower Austria. Does anyone have an idea why that would be? Local politics seem to be mostly social democrat instead. Anywhere else vdB's share of the votes increased in a big way I'm not sure how much this means. It kind of shows how volatile most electoral systems are. The question was not between slightly-left-of-center and slightly-right-of-center, like in Germany, but between FPÖ and Greens. This time it's Greens, last times it was Brexit and Trump. More like Soccer than Basketball, which is a bad thing methinks.
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Dec 4, 2016 19:28
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Hammerstein posted:I'm sure they have a lot of problems with immigrants in their sleepy village, nestled between the beautiful landscape. Maybe, just maybe you could consider that the people voted to make sure it stays that way.
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Dec 4, 2016 19:36
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I really don't think that the local right-wing voters identify with Trump or with the Americans per se. Even to them the American alt-right is considered insane with their hostility towards institutions like healthcare or a national retirement fund, which are considered unbudgeable around here.
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Dec 4, 2016 19:37
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The US and Brexit votes suffered from the fact that many status quo voters didn't bother voting because they thought their side had it in the bag. After Trump they didn't have that certainty anymore, so everybody who didn't want Hofer to win made sure to actually cast their ballot. At least that's my interpretation.
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Riso posted:Maybe, just maybe you could consider that the people voted to make sure it stays that way. hahaha, getting so so close, so very close to full sieg heil
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Dec 4, 2016 19:39
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the austria girl in my facebook feed is very happy
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az posted:hahaha, getting so so close, so very close to full sieg heil Did you even read what he wrote?
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Hammerstein posted:I'm sure they have a lot of problems with immigrants in their sleepy village, nestled between the beautiful landscape. In the village pub they still tell the horror story of the one time, when their mayor saw a black man.... Maybe they watch the news and say to themselves "well, New Years in Cologne was really lovely, let's not have that here" the same way some people look at the US and say "well, this Trump guys is a shitler, let's not have that here" only small children need to put their hand on a hot plate to notice that it's a bad idea, others can learn for the mistakes of others.
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Did you even read what he wrote? yeah did you
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Did you even read what he wrote? He's suggesting that rural Austrians are justified in voting for a neofascist because they are afraid of swarthy foreigners ruining their all-white Alpine villages.
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GaussianCopula posted:only small children need to put their hand on a hot plate to notice that it's a bad idea, others can learn for the mistakes of others. lolling irl
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Edible Hat posted:He's suggesting that rural Austrians are justified in voting for a neofascist because they are afraid of swarthy foreigners ruining their all-white Alpine villages. I am not justifying; I am telling you why people vote that way. People read the (more or less sensationalist) news from the cities and then decide to make sure the problems they have with migrants stay there. It's how Mecklemburg-Vorpommern's 20% AFD result happened.
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It's pretty simple., really: poor people in cities vote fascist to see things change, rich people in rural areas vote fascist so nothing changes. Both are obviously justified in their expectations.
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It's funny how the Tagesschau is campaigning for the AfD ... so sillly http://www.faz.net/aktuell/feuilleton/medien/tagesschau-berichtet-nicht-ueber-ermordete-studentin-in-freiburg-14560129.html
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I'm pretty sure the AfD wants them to give this case all the air time in the world.
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In the related links, how to appeal to pretty much everyone, part 1: http://www.faz.net/aktuell/feuilleton/medien/afd-will-den-rundfunkbeitrag-abschaffen-14560662.html
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Schurik posted:In the related links, how to appeal to pretty much everyone, part 1:
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GaussianCopula posted:It's funny how the Tagesschau is campaigning for the AfD ... so sillly GC, since you have fringe opinions for a a D&D poster, could you write some explanation with your links? It's not always clear what you are criticising or trying to say. Should the tagesthemen report on every murder in Germany? Should they report on every murder where foreigners/refugees are suspects?
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Cingulate posted:Germans complaining about GEZ is about as annoying as Germans complaining about trains being late. Die GEZ (bzw. ihre Nachfolgerin) hat ein unverdient schlechtes Image. Die Drückerkolonnen, die Leute belästigen und Mülltonnen durchsuchen kommen nämlich nicht von der GEZ sondern werden direkt von den Rundfunkanstalten des jeweiligen Sendergebiets angeheuert. Selbstverständlich über einen vergleichsweise gut verdienenden Subunternehmer, der das eigentliche Drücken dann irgendwelchen 1€-Jobbern oder andere prekär Beschäftigte ausüben lässt. 
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:GC, since you have fringe opinions for a a D&D poster, could you write some explanation with your links? It's not always clear what you are criticising or trying to say. The murder of this girl was already national news before we knew who the suspect was. I don't know what the FAZ article is on about, but I guess they think that the fact that a high profile case like this is now linked to the topic of refugees makes it "relevant". I honestly don't know how many murders happen in Germany, and how many of those are situations where somebody murders a stranger. But some number of them do capture the public imagination, and maybe it's appropriate to do a bit about it on the tagesschau. Alternatively maybe faz wants to capture the Lügenpresse crowd as readers.
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Tagessschau refused to talk about the murder in the main news, citing a lack of national interest. At time it was already international news.
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Covok posted:Are signs still pointing to Merkel hopefully saving Germany? CDU is continuing to rise in the polls. (edit: that's Merkel's party)
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