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I would definitely say getting out of hardware is considered dead. Otherwise you could say Blockbuster Video is still around or Circuit City still exists because it redirects to Tiger Direct. It's dead. Kind of sad to be honest because I was still hoping a decent phone with physical keys would one day exist again in the future.
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rip, rotor. dead and on twitter
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mishaq posted:quote: we have no loyalty to badly managed poo poo shows unless they're a monopolistic cartel *coughrogerstelusbellcough* BBRY/Nortel/CFL never had that
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Sham bam bamina! posted:he got too old and died "just kidding!" shrieks rotor as he rises through the floor
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photos of THE FINAL BLACKBERRY have apparently emerged on weibo it is codenamed mercury, and it will be the last in-house blackberry-designed phone. future devices will be made by third parties using blackberry's """""""hardened""""""" android and oem software. it's been a long journey, but here we are. what have we learned from all of this? i mean, if we've learned anything from it.
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The Kins posted:what have we learned from all of this? 2) technical debt will always come around to bite you in the rear end 3) "lets do a clean from-scratch rewrite of our core software" is a decision that dooms companies (see also: netscape)
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Dec 5, 2016 17:17
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The Kins posted:what have we learned from all of this? we learned that people don't actually want keyboards
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The Kins posted:photos of THE FINAL BLACKBERRY have apparently emerged on weibo it looks like a normal phone ni an enormous mismatched case
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Dec 5, 2016 19:15
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FMguru posted:3) "lets do a clean from-scratch rewrite of our core software" is a decision that dooms companies (see also: netscape)
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Dec 5, 2016 19:23
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Mr. Apollo posted:did it work for apple because they effectively bought the new OS along with next instead of writing it themselves? one of the reasons apple bought nextstep was that their internal efforts to clean-sheet write a new os from scratch (pink, taligent, etc) had all failed catastrophically
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Dec 5, 2016 19:30
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buying next was essentially an engineering brain transplant for apple. the next guys had taken over the os
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Dec 5, 2016 19:55
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FMguru posted:yeah nextstep had a software library and developer community and a decade of bugfixing and polish before apple bought it of course os x also failed catastrophically, but at least they tried
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fishmech posted:of course os x also failed catastrophically, but at least they tried 50 billion dollars a year in profit is what I would describe as a catastrophic failure.
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Dec 5, 2016 20:23
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The Management posted:50 billion dollars a year in profit is what I would describe as a catastrophic failure. os x doesn't make 50 billion a year in profit you crazy little man.
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The Management posted:50 billion dollars a year in profit is what I would describe as a catastrophic failure. child,
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fishmech posted:os x doesn't make 50 billion a year in profit you crazy little man. yeah it's probs more
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The Kins posted:it's been a long journey, but here we are. what have we learned from all of this? i mean, if we've learned anything from it.
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Dec 6, 2016 11:42
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ahmeni posted:yeah it's probs more lol nope
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ahmeni posted:yeah it's probs more
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i was going to note that fishmech is implicitly agreeing that android is a massive failure because no one makes any money from it, but then i remember ms does, so good for ms, i guess
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FMguru posted:apple made $53.4 bn in profit last year almost entirely by selling devices running some version of osx (mac, iphone, ipad, watch, tv) ios is not osx
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FMguru posted:apple made $53.4 bn in profit last year almost entirely by selling devices running some version of osx (mac, iphone, ipad, watch, tv) no they did not, because ios has basically nothing to do with os x. Endless Mike posted:i was going to note that fishmech is implicitly agreeing that android is a massive failure because no one makes any money from it, but then i remember ms does, so good for ms, i guess tons of people make money from android, which is used by billions of people. no one makes money from os x, which is used by about 5 remaining people.
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lol fishmech
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Mr. Nice! posted:ios is not osx actually, it is
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qirex posted:Rebadging In Melancholy Reabadging Indicates Mismanagement
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my employer replaced my work blackberry with a work iphone this week. Another nail in the coffin of RIM
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The Management posted:lol fishmech as fishmech ages, the "america's smartest" facet of his person begins to dull, leaving only the "child"
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fishmech posted:no they did not, because ios has basically nothing to do with os x ios is just embedded osx it's true that they don't derive their profits from selling the software, but you can't dispute that ios is, in fact, an osx derivative.
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FMguru posted:apple made $53.4 bn in profit last year almost entirely by selling devices running some version of osx (mac, iphone, ipad, watch, tv) those devices just as easily could have been running linux or solaris or whatever. (apple very nearly licensed solaris before the NeXT purchase) it's a little weird that apple retains their own proprietary unix
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:ios is just embedded osx can you run os x applications on it without complicated compatibility layers? answer: no therefore its not os x
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The Kins posted:it's been a long journey, but here we are. what have we learned from all of this? i mean, if we've learned anything from it. market superiority doesn't depend on hardware keyboards or strong encryption the guys who founded RIM are brain dead people who still buy them are likely oldsters who hate virtual keys
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fishmech posted:can you run os x applications on it without complicated compatibility layers? answer: no you could, if apple let you. which they will not. there is no technological reason you couldn't. it's an osx kernel with an osx userspace running on an osx filesystem
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:you could, if apple let you. which they will not. no you could not. as they are different operating systems. in order for apple to "let you" do it they'd need to majorly change it. and no, it's an openstep kernel with a horrible mishmash userspace on a Classic Mac OS 8 filesystem.
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Mr. Nice! posted:ios is not osx incorrect
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is windows rt windows?
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Mr. Apollo posted:is windows rt windows? nah
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:you could, if apple let you. which they will not. userspace isn't completely the same: uikit (ios ui framework) is not the same api as cocoa (osx ui framework). they are (very) close relatives, to the point that people can share big chunks of source code between ios and osx versions of an app, but not "just hit recompile" identical twins that said, lol @ fishmech's entire angle. if you go look up stebe's presentation announcing the iphone (it should be on youtube somewhere) i'm p. sure he basically called it os x on a phone, because they hadn't invented the ios name to describe it yet. also it is now known history that there were two factions inside apple which competed for the right to create the os for ipad/iphone: the ipod guys, who wanted to enhance the super lightweight ipod "os", and the mac system software guys, who thought it should be possible to pare down osx to run on a device with limited memory. the osx faction won because (a) they came up with convincing existence proof and (b) starting from something feature rich and throwing away what you don't need / can't afford to have (yet) gives a better development path than starting over from scratch iirc this choice was p. much why tony fadell ended up leaving apple and founding nest. after they chose osx there was no chance his ipod division was ever going to do anything but slowly lose influence inside apple
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BobHoward posted:
steve jobs also described magic fruit diets as a way to treat cancer successfully, and html5 on an EDGE connection as a good thing to use instead of native applications, i don't trust steve jobs to describe things.
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bless ur heart fishmech
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