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Darkest Auer posted:This, and also the truck drivers are either sleeping at the wheel or haven't slept in 72 hours. <Drinks TCM "stay awake" tea, plows into stopped cars while dreaming about post-90's beauties> Boiled Water posted:Having read this I still don't fully understand why unless it's penny wise pound foolish extrapolated towards everything. That, face, and the belief that all non-Han people are subhuman retards who will never catch on to their inscrutable ways.
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Baronjutter posted:Here's another thing I don't get about China, or more about the rest of the world. How come everyone keeps conducting diplomacy and business deals with the chinese government and firms as if they were western institutions and getting shocked every time they're totally hosed over or china does the most petty short sighted poo poo? "Oh they'd never screw us over on this on this minor thing, we both want a long term relationship and it's in both our interests..." NOPE. They will happily gently caress them selves out of millions of dollars in long term business if they can gently caress you over for a few thousand today. And it's not just about the short term gain, it's like in the business world you lose face for not loving someone over the moment you see the smallest opening. Multinational profit only loosely correlates to the profit people running multinationals make. If you're a CEO you go for the deal that doesn't hurt your bonus and won't void your parachute -- everything else being equal you then go for maximum free girlflesh and minimum work. Nobody who made money on the deal is surprised it amounted to the actual company getting raped, they paid someone to be culpable somewhere along the line (and based his promotions and pay on being complaint to the wishes of the company operator rather than being true to the mathematics involved in a sound deal), they don't care. Smaller companies that make deals like this with China and get surprised over it are actually just stupid or reckless. They're driven to it by trying to match a price point from the multinationals, but the price point isn't set for multinational profitability, it's set so extraction from value built up in the business can be maximized into personal accounts. At a certain level it comes down to legal/moral opacity and large scale theft as a formalized system. If the animal has put on meat the way you get fat is to butcher it and move on to the next animal. It doesn't make sense to farm or ranch when there are desperate people will do so for you out of a lack of options and where you've engineered a legal system where you can't be held personally liable for the butchery of someone else's animals. The only catch is that you can't let too many people into the club or else you might actually have to fight eachother over who gets to gently caress over the farmers. raton fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Dec 5, 2016 |
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Blistex posted:<Drinks TCM "stay awake" tea, plows into stopped cars while dreaming about post-90's beauties> does your wife ever see posts from you itt?
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Dec 5, 2016 22:19
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Dec 5, 2016 22:23
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is anything in china constructed correctly and to code and not half assed? presidential palace? Dear Leaders suits? ANYTHING
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Dec 5, 2016 22:30
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lots of other sources seem to be corroborating it but it still seems too huge to be true
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Dec 5, 2016 22:31
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Clearly Uncle Xi feels that there needs to be more buying of Chinese goods by the foreign devils and has adjusted the currency to help that along.
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but if you search google news for renminbi nothing about this comes up even though if it's true it's uhhhhhh a literal economic collapse
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Pon de Bundy posted:is anything in china not half assed? lol
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Baronjutter posted:Here's another thing I don't get about China, or more about the rest of the world. How come everyone keeps conducting diplomacy and business deals with the chinese government and firms as if they were western institutions and getting shocked every time they're totally hosed over or china does the most petty short sighted poo poo? "Oh they'd never screw us over on this on this minor thing, we both want a long term relationship and it's in both our interests..." NOPE. They will happily gently caress them selves out of millions of dollars in long term business if they can gently caress you over for a few thousand today. And it's not just about the short term gain, it's like in the business world you lose face for not loving someone over the moment you see the smallest opening. Poorly Made In China makes a pretty good argument: Western companies are going to china to find manufacturers that penny pinch and guess what? They penny pinch. Shock! The people running the Chinese companies that screw over western customers know full-well that if the customer was motivated by quality, they would pay for it. And the instant that another supplier comes along that is a fraction of a $ cheaper, they lose their client because thats all the client cares about. And the client is left scratching their head wondering why they get poo poo after paying for poo poo. There are (small) suppliers in China that will produce goods of a quality to match the west, treat their staff as well as the west - and they cost as much as the west as a result. But those suppliers know that their customers want quality and will pay for it and they can deliver repeatedly.
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The graph shows a huge spike, but in real percentage terms, it's about an 8% change. Idk much about finance or international exchange, so I dunnno if that's a significant percent change.
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Captain Postal posted:Poorly Made In China makes a pretty good argument: Western companies are going to china to find manufacturers that penny pinch and guess what? They penny pinch. Shock! Happy worker, which makes statues and plush for companies like Blizzard and Fangamer out of Chinese factories, have very expensive products but once again their statues are the same prices as ones made in Japanese factories.
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i know people in this thread discourage it but i assume learning mandarin to talk to your husbands grandparents/parents who have lived outside of china for a couple of decades like my sister is doing isn't a total waste
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Xelkelvos posted:The graph shows a huge spike, but in real percentage terms, it's about an 8% change. Idk much about finance or international exchange, so I dunnno if that's a significant percent change. In one day that's pretty crazy.
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Xelkelvos posted:The graph shows a huge spike, but in real percentage terms, it's about an 8% change. Idk much about finance or international exchange, so I dunnno if that's a significant percent change. It's a huge instant jump. That is SKY IS FALLING kind of huge.
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Jose posted:i know people in this thread discourage it but i assume learning mandarin to talk to your husbands grandparents/parents who have lived outside of china for a couple of decades like my sister is doing isn't a total waste If you're learning a language other than English it should be for cultural reasons (you want to read Goethe in the original or whatever), issues of convenience (you live there and want to be able to talk to people), or as a hobby. So yeah that's fine. Probably not much reward for the effort but if it's worth the work to her then fine. Also just spoken conversational Mandarin really isn't a terrible about of work to put in.
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There still a lot of media silence on this so I'm unfortunately going to lean towards "glitch" for now which is too bad because the Economy of China would be a great cap on 2016's amazing kill count
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ded posted:It's a huge instant jump. That is SKY IS FALLING kind of huge. Yeah, if true I hope it's like some weird auto-trading flash crash and not a signal that some serious poo poo regarding the real economy is about to drop.
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ded posted:It's a huge instant jump. That is SKY IS FALLING kind of huge. 8-9% swing in a day maybe fine for Venezuela. "2nd largest" "economy" in the world? Holy poo poo!
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All I know is this just further proves that Taiwan #1
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Xelkelvos posted:The graph shows a huge spike, but in real percentage terms, it's about an 8% change. Idk much about finance or international exchange, so I dunnno if that's a significant percent change. In forex 8% is the end of the world. People often leverage 100x or more on forex trading, meaning that they made a 800% loss. More importantly, its a disaster for markets that aren't crocked as gently caress as the contagion will spread
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Sheep-Goats posted:If you're learning a language other than English it should be for cultural reasons (you want to read Goethe in the original or whatever), issues of convenience (you live there and want to be able to talk to people), or as a hobby. So yeah that's fine. Probably not much reward for the effort but if it's worth the work to her then fine. i don't know why shes bothering anyway since his parents speak reasonable english and his grandparents know enough to drink with her which is all they care about
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https://twitter.com/KaiserKuo/status/805893469587771392
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Either they are very very mad about Trump or they are trying to fix the monumental fuckup of their stock market via huge inflation.
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Lol looks like this China Defense Force guy is wrong https://twitter.com/gaolangfr/status/805890991777583104
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Jose posted:i don't know why shes bothering anyway since his parents speak reasonable english and his grandparents know enough to drink with her which is all they care about Yeah, the big flaw with learning Mandarin is that it's very rare for your lovely Mandarin to be better than your counterpart's lovely English, especially if you're not actually in China. Not going to do any harm though, so whatever. She can drop a "乾杯!" next time they drink and everyone will act impressed.
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yes trying to actually talk with your grand parents and learn a marketable skill in the process, clearly a waste of effort you loving goons
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gently caress if this is real we may as well not just go back
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Agean90 posted:yes trying to actually talk with your grand parents and learn a marketable skill in the process, clearly a waste of effort Mandarin is not a marketable skill lol, and if it is it means you'll be going to the mainland, which is a hilariously undesirable place to be going for work or business Do not learn mandarin, do not do it The Great Autismo! fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Dec 5, 2016 |
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Agean90 posted:yes trying to actually talk with your grand parents and learn a marketable skill in the process, clearly a waste of effort Might not be marketable anymore after a couple hours lol
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Learn the language you're interested in learning. Don't learn Mandarin with the expectation that this will translate into you suddenly being a valuable commodity.
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Fojar38 posted:Might not be marketable anymore after a couple hours lol lmao
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Will Haier finally have to flee to the Unnamed Country to plunge another day?
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https://twitter.com/casualsophist/status/805904230796103681 Might just be ICAP
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Those look like the latest figures. Is that potentially important? I'm not really sure what I'm looking at.
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My aunt took Mandarin lessons to talk with her in-laws. Grandma only speaks Hakka and is barely literate in any language despite living in Chicago for thirty years, oof!
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Jose posted:does your wife ever see posts from you itt? I'll get her to read something to confirm/deny, but for the most part she's pretty uninterested in the kind of stuff that goes on in here. Speaking of, I had her scour some different Chinese news sites and she said that it's pretty divided right now. Economists are saying the following... - Google is wrong, the rates have not changed that much (at all) - It's intentional, and the government has total control over everything, it's a good thing - 8% change is normal - <post deleted>
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