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Landsknecht posted:decision-based question making All signs point to yes
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 00:37 |
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So according to Justin's goofy Buzzfeed poll the only places in Canada that share my values are Quebec and Newfoundland. Interesting.
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 00:38 |
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BGrifter posted:So according to Justin's goofy Buzzfeed poll the only places in Canada that share my values are Quebec and Newfoundland. And if you're going to do some sort of PCA analysis then you need a waaaay better question set. Garbage in garbage out. cowofwar fucked around with this message at 00:45 on Dec 6, 2016 |
# ? Dec 6, 2016 00:43 |
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If you recall the ~eight principles~ the government introduced in April, it's easy to draw a through line from them to this surveyquote:So the first principle. Electoral reform must ensure that Canadians perceive the outcomes of elections as legitimate. Canadians should believe that their intentions as voters are fairly translated into election results without significant distortion that often characterizes elections conducted under the first past the post system. This is one of those values that there seems to be consensus on.
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 00:49 |
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Maybe I'm just super biased, but don't those principles just scream MMP? The very first one in particular just screams PR of some variety, and would already rule out their ideal option of AV/IRV.
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 00:59 |
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Somehow we wound up in a "Yes Prime Minister" sketch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ZZJXw4MTA
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 01:13 |
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Q. Do you like apples or oranges? A1. Yes A2. No e: sorry hosed that up Q. Do you prefer apples or oranges? Strongly agree Agree Neutral Disagree Strongly Disagree Precambrian Video Games fucked around with this message at 01:49 on Dec 6, 2016 |
# ? Dec 6, 2016 01:33 |
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awe poo poo. No matter how many times I fill out that personality quiz, I keep getting Innovator. I said No to online voting, yes to paper ballots only, No you shouldn't be required to vote. How the gently caress is that innovative? I guess I came in pretty heavily in favour of fighting many duck sized parties, and that they should probably flock together, so maybe that's the innovation?
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 01:50 |
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You probably support radical policies like Proportional Representation. The survey knows.
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 01:53 |
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Unfortunately there was no options for Full Communism NOW! or Pay me my loving overtime, Christ it's been nearly a year assholes.
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 02:16 |
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According to mydemocracy.ca, I'm a Hufflepuff.
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 02:20 |
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The ONDP just called me begging for dollars. I never shared my info with them. Does the federal party share donor information? I didn't find my name on the elections Canada website donor list so I'm a bit miffed.
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 02:20 |
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right i keep forgetting about this
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 02:27 |
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Risky Bisquick posted:The ONDP just called me begging for dollars. I never shared my info with them. Does the federal party share donor information? I didn't find my name on the elections Canada website donor list so I'm a bit miffed. I'm pretty sure for NDP it's join both not one or the other.
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 02:27 |
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I just got a BCNDP fundraising phone call, was shocked to find out that the provincial party is apparently led by a man named "John Horgan" (?).
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 02:44 |
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"We were just calling you in advance of the next provincial election, which we're going to win" (caller laughs)
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 02:45 |
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Powershift posted:He obviously had 4 wheel drive engaged, a quick boot of the throttle and he would have avoided the cop car and slid gently into the fire truck at the bottom of the hill. How often do you get to get away with ramming a cop car with a plow? Dude will be telling that story to his grandkids.
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 02:48 |
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This is all you need to know about him: "Horgan loves science fiction, especially Star Trek. His father died when he was a toddler, so having been raised by his mom and older sister, he thinks Capt. Kathryn Janeway is the best of the Star Trek captains."
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 02:48 |
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A poisoned mind.
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Baronjutter posted:This is all you need to know about him: This makes him sound like he was a child when Voyager was on air instead of a grown-up adult man in his 30s who can make his own drat opinions about things. Also his Wikipedia page looks like it was written by a grade 9 student as a class project. quote:As the 2005 provincial election was approaching, the 45 year old Horgan won NDP nomination, against Julie Thomas of Shawnigan Lake in the riding of Malahat-Juan de Fuca.[10] The incumbent MLA Brian Kerr was not seeking re-election so in the general election, Horgan faced BC Liberal Cathy Basskin of Cowichan Bay, Democratic Reform BC party leader Tom Morino, Steven Hurdle who was a late-replacement for the Green candidate, a Western Canada Concept candidate. Polling showed Morino was drawing significant amount of the centrist vote so that it was a close race between the two top parties: NDP and Liberals.[11] Though Horgan won his riding, the NDP under Carole James's leadership formed the official opposition to the BC Liberals who formed an absolute majority government. Horgan was named opposition critic to the Minister of Education Shirley Bond. Horgan criticized the government's 2005 Teachers' Collective Agreement Act which legislated a new contact onto teachers, after several months of unsuccessful collective bargaining, as "inflam[ing] an already volatile situation".[12] In June 2006, Horgan was moved over to critic to the Minister of Energy, Mines and Petroleum Resource Richard Neufeld. Horgan called for the Oil and Gas Commission to provide more transparent reporting after it was claimed its annual 97% compliance rating was near-perfect, despite 2,500 known infractions, the majority of which were rated major or serious.[13] Following a sudden sharp increase in gasoline prices in early 2007 Horgan introduced the Retail Petroleum Consumer Protection Act as a private member bill which, if passed, would have put gasoline prices under the jurisdiction of the B.C. Utilities Commission, same as electricity and natural gas.[14] The bill was supported by an 18,000 signature petition[15] and elicited editorial responses from Minister Neufeld and Christy Clark.[16][17]
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 02:51 |
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vyelkin posted:This makes him sound like he was a child when Voyager was on air instead of a grown-up adult man in his 30s who can make his own drat opinions about things. He's an adult who has public opinions about Star Trek, that says all you need to know.
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 02:59 |
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The problem more is that he likes Voyager and not DS9, which is objectively the best star trek
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 03:04 |
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infernal machines posted:He's an adult who has public opinions about Star Trek, that says all you need to know. Public opinions about Star Trek: Jack Layton, Barack Obama No public opinions about Star Trek: Tom Mulcair, Hillary Clinton
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 03:04 |
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So you're saying he's in the company of the people who set up their party's demise with a move to the center and milquetoast governance? As opposed to the people left holding the bag.
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 03:07 |
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CLAM DOWN posted:The problem more is that he likes Voyager and not DS9, which is objectively the best star trek You're a cool guy with good opinions.
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 03:15 |
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As someone raised by a single parent I love the star trek with the childless crazy person as a captain and not the captain who has a strong focus on being a single parent trying to raise a boy the best he can.
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 03:21 |
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"Kelly Leitch posted:I’ve never heard of this organization. I did not seek their endorsement. I do not want their endorsement, My campaign is about National Values, dammit, not Ethnic Nationalism! How could you possibly misunderstand this?
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 03:20 |
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cowofwar posted:I don't understand why the polling company pre-polled and clustered the results in to those five categories. Sure, do that analysis with the final data set but why do a tiny rear end sampling to identify n clusters and then do a big poll to see how the data maps on to those clusters? That's bad methodology, I'm certain the number of significant clusters would be way higher than five in the final set. It's basically a summary of the problem with the current system: if I polled ten Canadians based on the data I might conclude that only LPC and CPC exist and the rest are weird outliers, so then I poll everyone else, push it through my model and find that Canadians are 55% LPC and 45% CPC. See the problem? There's no one 'true' cluster analysis on a given set of questions. They probably could have created four, or six, clusters and had perfectly respectable results. You can determine an suitable number of clusters by making a scree plot of the sum-of-squared-errors of a different number of clusters. A dataset of 3000 responses (which is what they trained the clusters on, and is hardly a 'tiny rear end' sample) is more than large enough to perform a cluster analysis, and the number of clusters is independent of the size of a data set. They 'pre-polled' because they wanted a representative sample of Canadians. Likely the final report will analyze the public survey and the representative survey separately. PCA, or principle component analysis, is a tool to transform and reduce a set of variables into a smaller set of uncorrelated variables, and is distinct from cluster analyses, which determines similarities between cases, not variables. I'm not going to defend the question set, but the client for this survey likely wanted the study done a very particular way and gave them specific research objectives, and it's hardly fair to blame the outcome entirely on Vox Pop Labs. Given the set of questions the cluster analysis likely has reasonable validity. The issue is more the particular research objectives, how the particular set of questions was determined, and the very small-minded approach to considering the space of potential outcomes. 'Engagement'. Ugh.
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 03:28 |
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Baronjutter posted:As someone raised by a single parent I love the star trek with the childless crazy person as a captain and not the captain who has a strong focus on being a single parent trying to raise a boy the best he can. Janeway as written was an objectively lovely leader on many, many occasions, moreso than the other captains (except maybe Archer?) so the thought that people calling the shots IRL think she's cool is actually very mildly alarming DS9 was more difficult to find in syndication in the 90's IIRC and it wasn't promoted as much after Voyager started on UPN so it makes sense that this would happen but still jesus loving christ Then again the Liberals are exactly the type of scum that would watch the ones about the Sanctuary Districts and think "hey what a great idea!" so maybe it's better this way
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 03:33 |
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It shouldn't surprise me Horgan managed to find the only wrong answer to that question. /bcndp
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 03:58 |
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Can't wait for another university dropout majority in bc
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 04:38 |
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It's 2016, I'll non-ironically judge a public figure based on who they think the best captain was. Nothing makes sense and nothing matters anymore so who loving cares? Janeway is totally the Liberal captain. The Butcher fucked around with this message at 05:10 on Dec 6, 2016 |
# ? Dec 6, 2016 05:07 |
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Helsing posted:You've misunderstood both Trudeau and Obama. First of all Obama is not in any way weak, he just relied on liberal voters and was operating at a time of heightened liberal anger and frustration following the Bush years. The Republicans were an extremely useful source of justification for his awful healthcare bill, his attempts to cut social security, and various other policies he enacted at the behest of the donors who run the Democratic party. Trudeau is more accurately compared to Bush Jr.
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 05:13 |
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anyway, looking forward to 50 years from now when we do away with the sham of democracy and officially go back to hereditary rule
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 05:16 |
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all star treks except TNG are garbage, you fuckin nerds
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 05:32 |
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https://twitter.com/FuzzyWuzzyTO/status/805992608493355008
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 05:37 |
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Pinterest Mom posted:right i keep forgetting about this Hey baby let's lay some pipeline
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# ? Dec 6, 2016 05:39 |
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And to think, it probably would've been so easy to shove him in front of a train... EDIT: The Edmonton LRT racist, not Justin "Dreamy" Trudeau. EDIT 2: How do you even do something like that? Who goes to the trouble of getting a noose just to be a racist dickwad to some people at an LRT station? Somewhere along the line, don't you realize that's a horrible idea and literally anything else ever is a better use of your precious time on this earth? PT6A fucked around with this message at 05:42 on Dec 6, 2016 |
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namaste faggots posted:all star treks except TNG are garbage, you fuckin nerds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g5THKsYBpI&t=22s
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PT6A posted:EDIT 2: How do you even do something like that? Who goes to the trouble of getting a noose just to be a racist dickwad to some people at an LRT station? Somewhere along the line, don't you realize that's a horrible idea and literally anything else ever is a better use of your precious time on this earth? #BellLetsTalk
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