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Tuxedo Catfish posted:i agree, calling it "not necessarily aesthetically bad" is beating around the bush. Actually I was laughing at how horribly pretentious and awful that post was.
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Elfgames posted:mild complaint but isn't drax incapable of understanding figurative language? and if so does he want to gently caress a spaceship? I assumed his culture/language just doesn't include figures of speech, not that he's psychologically incapable of eventually learning and using them.
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Dec 5, 2016 06:49
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Snowman_McK posted:They already broke this rule in the first movie when he calls Gamorra a whore. I'm pretty sure he literally thought she was a prostitute. I mean all those guys at the prison called her one and he just picked up on that. He was misunderstanding their insults as being literal this is consistent. "screw you spaceship" does not seem to be so
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Neo Rasa posted:This would be relatively in-character for Drax.
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Away all Goats posted:I assumed his culture/language just doesn't include figures of speech, not that he's psychologically incapable of eventually learning and using them. the trailer also already establishes him being less literal than the previous film w/him talking about the two types of beings in the universe
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Elfgames posted:I'm pretty sure he literally thought she was a prostitute. I mean all those guys at the prison called her one and he just picked up on that. He was misunderstanding their insults as being literal this is consistent. "screw you spaceship" does not seem to be so Maybe it'll be something like that scene out of the animated Transformers movie where there's a spaceship that looks like a giant screw.
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Away all Goats posted:I assumed his culture/language just doesn't include figures of speech, not that he's psychologically incapable of eventually learning and using them. I'm pretty sure there will be a scene where Starlord tries to teach him what it means and this will be the first time he gets it right. That, or he literally wants to use a screwdriver on the ship because of loose screws.
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Snowman_McK posted:Falcon using a drone to kill two anonymous henchman from five yards away is the best metaphor for the war on terror and the militarisation of the country that anyone has come up with.  It's the Tom Clancy fantasy made literal: with our technology and moral greatness, we can go into another country, identify the "bad guys," and kill them with "surgical strikes" leaving innocents unharmed. Tony kills them with the power of his gaze. The Falcon one is good, this one is perfect.
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Grendels Dad posted:That, or he literally wants to use a screwdriver on the ship because of loose screws. That's what I assumed he meant, or that he was threatening to disassemble it.
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Halloween Jack posted:That's good, but the best is still this: I bow to your superior horrifyingly sanitised miltech fantasy. Jesus. It's lead us into a situation where people have mistaken 'American Sniper' for a war film. I mean, it is, the exact same way "Jarhead 2, this time there's a lot of shooting" is a war film.
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K. Waste posted:I just don't see how Guardians of the Galaxy is distinct from, like, Thor, or is revered in any way even in the context of MCU. I had the same feeling about Ant-Man. If anything all that's changed is that, cinematographically speaking, they're progressively less interesting. But the vibe of the franchise has always been broad action comedy, and all Ant-Man and Guardians do is stunt-casting to render the comical weightlessness of the films explicit. They could be R.I.P.D. or The Last Witch Hunter, there's no bite behind all the bark. Lucy gets punched in the face, boyfriend's brain matter splatters on it Fun for the whole family! *The same drat action scene repeats for the rest of the movie, half-assed spiritual singularity poo poo at the end*
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Dec 5, 2016 22:01
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Snowman_McK posted:They already broke this rule in the first movie when he calls Gamorra a whore. Nah, as others have pointed out he literally thought this. It does break it when Peter gives his big impressive speech, though. Peter: It has given us a chance. Drax: To do what? Peter: To give a poo poo. I mean, it's a big important speech and Drax pointing out that he has not given a poo poo recently would break the mood and all but...
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Mortanis posted:Nah, as others have pointed out he literally thought this. It does break it when Peter gives his big impressive speech, though. To be fair, Drax doesn't contradict Peter or speak up. He could have not understood that one specific phrase but then understand the rest of the speech before and after and also understood the mood. Not getting idioms doesn't mean he has no emotional intelligence.
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Snowman_McK posted:I bow to your superior horrifyingly sanitised miltech fantasy. Jesus.
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Slugworth posted:I don't know for comics and what-not, but in terms of the movie, his character is pretty consistent. He's repeatedly shown to be dangerous to everyone other than Ronan, it's not like he never lives up to his reputation. The fight with Ronan doesn't lessen Drax, it just highlights Ronan's strength. Also Drax was hammered.
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Drifter posted:What is Gunn-ish stuff did he insert that distances it from a normal Marvel movie? Can you give a few examples, because I don't know poo poo about James Gunn and his established directorial style. There's a level of griminess and a patchwork quality to the production design the other Marvel movies lack, IMO. Xandarr, the Kiln, and Knowwhere have very distinct personalities. There's well, texture to them (unless blandness is kind of the pooint, as on Xandarr) and the texture is generally kinda viscerally unpleasant (Drax getting dumped in a vat of spinal fluid, for ex.) which is a James Gunn specialty. He can make a pg-13 movie feel more sleezy and violent than it actually is, really.
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WENTZ WAGON NUI posted:There's a level of griminess and a patchwork quality to the production design the other Marvel movies lack, IMO. Xandarr, the Kiln, and Knowwhere have very distinct personalities. There's well, texture to them (unless blandness is kind of the pooint, as on Xandarr) and the texture is generally kinda viscerally unpleasant (Drax getting dumped in a vat of spinal fluid, for ex.) which is a James Gunn specialty. He can make a pg-13 movie feel more sleezy and violent than it actually is, really. Maximum security space prison:  Club in Knowhere:  The Collector's Museum:  Xandar's holding facility:  Ravagers' mothership 'Eclector' :  Club in Knowhere:  Shooting of a music video in the shopping mall planet's exotic food court:  My bad, it's actually the first non-CG scene showing us the wretched hive of scum and villainy living in the desecrated skull of a dead god.
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i dunno if i'd say 'blandness' is the point of xandarr's aesthetic so much as they're the only ones that give a poo poo about looking presentable(in public at least, the kiln is just as grime-y and lovely looking as knowhere), which kinda ties into ronan being pissed that the treaty will just sweep everything under the rug and pretend everything's all clean and friendly and generations of his family totally haven't died at the hands of xandarr, the dude who makes it a point to look like he really needs to wash his face is attacking cleanliness itself
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Brother Entropy posted:i dunno if i'd say 'blandness' is the point of xandarr's aesthetic so much as they're the only ones that give a poo poo about looking presentable(in public at least, the kiln is just as grime-y and lovely looking as knowhere), which kinda ties into ronan being pissed that the treaty will just sweep everything under the rug and pretend everything's all clean and friendly and generations of his family totally haven't died at the hands of xandarr, the dude who makes it a point to look like he really needs to wash his face is attacking cleanliness itself I shouldn't have said bland really, it's still got a fairly distinctive poured-concrete 70's architecture kinda vibe going on which makes the main city feel like a big airport practically. All those screenshots show is that at various points shadow is used for dramatic effect. Actually you can still see that Knowhere has some distinctive green lighting going on even in your examples that allegedly disprove my point so uh....?
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You're either real good at this or real bad at it.
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Snowman_McK posted:Falcon using a drone to kill two anonymous henchman from five yards away is the best metaphor for the war on terror and the militarisation of the country that anyone has come up with. Can we get some sort of SuperMechaGodzilla write-up in depth about this. I feel like it'd be awesome.
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You must go to some broke-rear end shopping malls.
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Maxwell Lord posted:You must go to some broke-rear end shopping malls. I heard that this is the case with many American malls, though. I live in Asia, we built new ones all the time.
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This is the shot you chose for this scene?
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I don't know what you guys are complaining about, every floor looks grate!
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^^^^  ^^^^CelticPredator posted:This is the shot you chose for this scene? Why not? This is the shot the director chose for this scene. WENTZ WAGON NUI posted:All those screenshots show is that at various points shadow is used for dramatic effect. Actually you can still see that Knowhere has some distinctive green lighting going on even in your examples that allegedly disprove my point so uh....? So the very distinct personality of the dead god's skull setting is a green tint? When it's not CG, it looks like the prison which looks like Quill's ship which looks like Yondu's ship. The shots used are the same and the lighting is the same (colored filters notwithstanding), so what sets it apart? You're being very generous with the dramatic shadows comment. I see no use of harsh lights or shadows; nothing is white or black. The lighting is heavily diffused, even in the bad guy's ship:  A lovely full moon lights the villain as he stares at a pool of blood (belonging to a man he just murdered).
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seravid posted:^^^^ Because you chose a simple cutaway reaction shot to showcase how dull it looks. The purpose of that shot is to show Rocket's anger towards The Collector for being a dick. The camera looks down at Rocket just as the Collector looks down on him. And I believe the reverse is looking up at The Collector, but I'm not sure. And I take issue because you chose that one shot over, like any of these in the richest looking scene in the film.     Like, whatever if you want to be like "Ugh they all look terrible!" fine. But you're sorta being really disingenuous. Also by the way, every screen shot you've used looks like it was put through the same poo poo color correction studios as AvP-R. The movie is not that dark. CelticPredator fucked around with this message at 08:05 on Dec 6, 2016 |
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seravid posted:^^^^ Hell yes look how lovely this movie looks if you remove distinct colors from each location. 
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Neo Rasa posted:Hell yes look how lovely this movie looks if you remove distinct colors from each location. Filters are a pretty lazy way of differentiating a series of locations that really should be very distinct from each other. I like GOTG, but 'the places all seem pretty similar' is a fair criticism. I mean, I've seen it two or three times, and I would have struggled to place any of those scenes in the movie based purely on those screenshots. By contrast, Star Wars' locations are instantly recognisable from even cursory glances.
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Because they're awful screenshots. Like you use the small hallway scene to showcase the Prison? Weird.
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CelticPredator posted:Because they're awful screenshots. Like you use the small hallway scene to showcase the Prison? Weird. The ones you chose weren't great either. The colours are flat as hell everytime something physical is photgraphed. The CGI colours are fantastic, though.
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Yeah those screenshots are awful. It looks a lot darker on streaming than I remember it in the cinema, but here's some I pulled that show the colours better:   In the cinema it looked vibrant as anything. A lot of the visual appeal was the contrast between the hyper-saturated space stuff, the gritty prison, the 70's spaceship and the brutalist space elf stuff. It doesn't just feel like you're in a greyish city, you visit a handful of really interesting places.
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I said it doesn't matter if you like them or not. The point was, each location has a distinct look. And the fact that those earlier screenshots didn't even showcase any of that is just real bad for making an argument. I'm arguing the argument.
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CelticPredator posted:I said it doesn't matter if you like them or not. The point was, each location has a distinct look. And the fact that those earlier screenshots didn't even showcase any of that is just real bad for making an argument. The screenshots you chose were a poor repudiation.
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Those settings are all dull-looking, due to set design if anything. Like the Collector's lair is two levels of glass terrarias. All the places have the same metal texture, even Xandar.
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Neo Rasa posted:Hell yes look how lovely this movie looks if you remove distinct colors from each location. What if Guardians of the Galaxy wasn't in color?
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