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Silly Burrito posted:Ok, so I've played with DirecTV Now for a few hours last night and today, and I have to say, I enjoy it the best out of Sling/Vue/DTV. The UI is the best out of the three for me. I tested it on the AppleTV and the 1st gen FireTV. The UI is pretty much the same on both of those devices. A few initial pros/cons: Your experience was better than mine I guess. There definitely should be a dedicate guide button on the FTV remote..navigating the UI, while easy for me was a pain for my 8 year old. She would have figured it out eventually, but there is like 3 too many steps involved. Channels all seemed to load quickly, but almost every channel would inevitably stop after a minute or two and I would get the connecting box spinning in the center of the screen and it would never go away. Changing the channel and going back fixed it though. I have 300mbps internet speeds, initial connections were quick so the drops have to be something else with the service. Those letterboxed channels are basically non-HD or internet based streams. There were I think 5 channels I viewed that were clearly that channels web site based stream (golf channel for instance) where the bitrate seemed to fluctuate more often than not. The rest of the stuff I could have lived with though. IMO not worth it, at least for me right now. Also the guy that said there were 5-6 HBO channels + the spanish one? what? I had HBO East, Family and HBO East Spanish. Hardly the same line up of 6 HBO channels i get on cable service for $10 a month right now. The one good thing that came of this was TWC was threatened with losing a customer and they gave me better service for much cheaper. It's about ~10 more a month than what DTNow + my internet would have cost me, but whatever easy of use for kids and poo poo.
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DTV Now just screams "rushed to market" to me. It's been OK, and if I only had Sling to compare it to I'd probably have a more favorable view of it. I'm going to end up keeping PSVue. That being said, I suppose $120 (Go Big promo + HBO) for an Apple TV isn't a bad thing to walk out of this with. I can always set it up on the bedroom TV.
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thebushcommander posted:Your experience was better than mine I guess. There definitely should be a dedicate guide button on the FTV remote..navigating the UI, while easy for me was a pain for my 8 year old. She would have figured it out eventually, but there is like 3 too many steps involved. Channels all seemed to load quickly, but almost every channel would inevitably stop after a minute or two and I would get the connecting box spinning in the center of the screen and it would never go away. Changing the channel and going back fixed it though. I have 300mbps internet speeds, initial connections were quick so the drops have to be something else with the service. Those letterboxed channels are basically non-HD or internet based streams. There were I think 5 channels I viewed that were clearly that channels web site based stream (golf channel for instance) where the bitrate seemed to fluctuate more often than not. The rest of the stuff I could have lived with though. IMO not worth it, at least for me right now. I don't have it running on my primary TV yet so went back to check and you're right, it looks like 3 HBO channels, not 6 (Comedy and another at least are missing from what I get on DTV). Which puts it about the same as what you get with Sling and Vue and (I think? Don't use it) is basically HBO Now. However it is a $15 addon with all of those, including Now direct from HBO, so being a $5 addon still makes it a really good deal. Sure, if you can get a discount rate of $10 from your cable provider that's good too, but threatening to cancel every year is a kind of ridiculous thing to have to do to get it. As for your streaming problems, I haven't had many. Most channels look very good to me, there are some SD ones here and there but overall streams work well and change quickly. It's slow to do so on my FTV 1, so the device plays some role in this, but in the end I suspect it has more to do with where they've rolled out the service, what local caching looks like, etc. It's worth noting that I have AT&T Gigapower internet service, so I guess it is possible it works best on it right now, not simply for speed reasons but because it's their network and I imagine they have deployed infrastructure where they need to support it already. Hopefully for others it gets better over time as they roll out.
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I've just signed up for DirecTV Now. Thank you, esteemed Goons for letting me know it existed because f*** cable companies. That said, I do have a question. I have two TVs (and two cable boxes) at home. I know I can use an HDMI cable splitter to connect them to a single Apple TV but I (and especially my wife who has literally zero faith in my handyman skills - and for a good reason) would like to avoid making holes in walls. What's the alternative? I already checked and there is no DirecTV app in the Samsung app store. Could I buy another AppleTV (in addition to the free one the deal) and use that in the other room? Thank you.
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Unexpected posted:I've just signed up for DirecTV Now. Thank you, esteemed Goons for letting me know it existed because f*** cable companies. Get a Fire Stick for the other room, way cheaper. Personally I don't understand why anyone would get an Apple TV, but then again I don't understand why people wouldn't have Amazon Prime... It has seriously saved me so much time, money, and effort over the years that it's paid itself off ten times over. There's a staggering amount of free stuff you can watch on Amazon Video if you have Prime, and Prime Pantry is actually cheaper than going to Costco and way more apartment friendly.
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Unexpected posted:I've just signed up for DirecTV Now. Thank you, esteemed Goons for letting me know it existed because f*** cable companies. Yes you're really sticking it to them by subscribing to AT&T 
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Fuzz posted:Personally I don't understand why anyone would get an Apple TV Superior video quality and a UI that doesn't look like rear end. Unexpected posted:I've just signed up for DirecTV Now. Thank you, esteemed Goons for letting me know it existed because f*** cable companies. I'd recommend a second device as well, but DON'T get a FireStick for DTVNow. There's a lot of complaining online of the service being laggy and crappy on one of those. If you're going to get one, the consensus seems to be the 4K FireTV or the AppleTV 4. If you already did your account, it's probably too late to get the AppleTV deal, but you can get the 4K FireTV for $89 from Amazon.
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blugu64 posted:Yes you're really sticking it to them by subscribing to AT&T flosofl posted:If you're going to get one, the consensus seems to be the 4K FireTV or the AppleTV 4. If you already did your account, it's probably too late to get the AppleTV deal, but you can get the 4K FireTV for $89 from Amazon. Thanks again, Goons. Unexpected fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Dec 6, 2016 |
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Unexpected posted:I actually did get the DirecTV Now + Apple TV deal (waiting for it to arrive in mail). I'll play around with it a bit and will buy another Apple TV for the second TV if everything works out fine. Fuzz posted:Personally I don't understand why anyone would get an Apple TV, but then again I don't understand why people wouldn't have Amazon Prime. The way I see the main devices are Roku: No Kodi Amazon Fire: UI sucks but that's being fixed as we speak. Might be the best one depending on how that turns out. ATV: No Amazon Chromecast: Duno, need to get one to gently caress around with it. Shield: For nerds with way more cash than me Croatoan fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Dec 6, 2016 |
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flosofl posted:If you're going to get one, the consensus seems to be the 4K FireTV or the AppleTV 4. If you already did your account, it's probably too late to get the AppleTV deal, but you can get the 4K FireTV for $89 from Amazon. You can still get the ATV4 deal even if you signed up under a trial. https://twitter.com/directvnow/status/804004866167291905
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Got my ATV4 setup with DTV Now today. I'm wholly impressed. Swiping to change channels emulates channel surfing really well. I'll still pair up my Harmony 700, but I guess I can bind the channel up/down buttons to swipe left and right. Good poo poo.
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teagone posted:Got my ATV4 setup with DTV Now today. I'm wholly impressed. Swiping to change channels emulates channel surfing really well. I'll still pair up my Harmony 700, but I guess I can bind the channel up/down buttons to swipe left and right. Good poo poo. Let me know if you figure it out. I have a Hub with the Harmony Companion, and I still haven't figured out how to map a swipe command to anything. I don't think Harmony can do those yet. With most apps, it's not so much an issue since the vast majority are designed to work with the swipe remote and the older Apple remotes. DTV Now looks to only process swipe actions for the up/down and left/right triggers.
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I've been off work today...streaming DTVNow since like 7am. Not one single issue, hiccup, nothing. You couldn't convince anyone this isn't actual cable. Now, how fast will I hit my 1tb Comcast cap? We're on our way to finding out! Edit. Lol minutes after posting this, it's freezing like a motherfucker. Rush hour I guess or 
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hotsauce posted:I've been off work today...streaming DTVNow since like 7am. Fortunately, you get two months of grace for going over the cap, that will give you a better handle on whether to pay the overage when it happens ($10/50GB) or whether to add on the unlimited package for $50/month. I've been using Vue exclusively for TV over the last few months. Between that and Netflix I think I maxed out last month at 770GB. The real test will be when all the College Bowl games kick off for me 
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hotsauce posted:I've been off work today...streaming DTVNow since like 7am. Yeah, I was streaming fine about half hour ago, but I guess everyone is home now and DTV getting hammered lmao. Lots of freezing atm. I'll try hardwiring it tomorrow night to see if that makes a difference. flosofl posted:Let me know if you figure it out. I have a Hub with the Harmony Companion, and I still haven't figured out how to map a swipe command to anything. I don't think Harmony can do those yet. I was assuming the left/right direction button would be akin to swipe left/right. I'll try it out later.
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I thought the Go Big package had an option of 4KFTV or ATV free with 3 month commitment, but I'm seeing ATV with 3 month prepay or a FTV Stick for 1 month prepay. I don't have any other Apple products so I'm not in a big hurry to get into that ecosystem, but it sounds like the Stick won't offer a decent user experience. I don't have any particular problem with Apple stuff so maybe I'll go that route.
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teagone posted:Got my ATV4 setup with DTV Now today. I'm wholly impressed. Swiping to change channels emulates channel surfing really well. I'll still pair up my Harmony 700, but I guess I can bind the channel up/down buttons to swipe left and right. Good poo poo. teagone posted:Yeah, I was streaming fine about half hour ago, but I guess everyone is home now and DTV getting hammered lmao. Lots of freezing atm. I'll try hardwiring it tomorrow night to see if that makes a difference. It should. I just programmed my Harmony One to use an Apple TV, and it mapped automatically. I'm pretty sure left/right has the same effect. Inspector 34 posted:I thought the Go Big package had an option of 4KFTV or ATV free with 3 month commitment, but I'm seeing ATV with 3 month prepay or a FTV Stick for 1 month prepay. I don't have any other Apple products so I'm not in a big hurry to get into that ecosystem, but it sounds like the Stick won't offer a decent user experience. I don't have any particular problem with Apple stuff so maybe I'll go that route. No, it's just the Fire TV stick with 1 month or Apple TV with 3 months prepaid. So far, the Apple TV is pretty nice. I think I like the Shield more, but the Apple TV definitely worth free.99
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Silly Burrito posted:It should. I just programmed my Harmony One to use an Apple TV, and it mapped automatically. I'm pretty sure left/right has the same effect. While I can't replicate swipes using my Harmony Hub+Companion Remote, it's still usable. I can pull up the Guide using Menu and select it from there. No left and right swipe reproduction either. Or up swipe to pull up the main screen. I'm still not super happy with DTV Now, but they have three months to iron out the issues. And I still have my Vue subscription to fall back on if it becomes unusable (which it does at times). Is anyone else having an issue where the volume is much higher with the DTV App than anything else? I notice a huge difference between it and Netflix. It may be just the difference between DTV being 2 channels for live TV and Netflix giving me 5.1 sound.
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Must have just misunderstood since a lot of people were recommending the 4kFTV over the Stick. Oh well, ATV is on the way I guess.
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flosofl posted:While I can't replicate swipes using my Harmony Hub+Companion Remote, it's still usable. I can pull up the Guide using Menu and select it from there. No left and right swipe reproduction either. Or up swipe to pull up the main screen. Try this. Press the Ok button while watching TV(assuming a default config). Then press left or right. It emulates a left or right swipe for me. I also have a menu button on the main screen that pulls up the menu. I also have a home button that takes me back to the main Apple TV grid. Not exactly the same as the default remote, but usable. Silly Burrito fucked around with this message at 03:00 on Dec 7, 2016 |
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Inspector 34 posted:Must have just misunderstood since a lot of people were recommending the 4kFTV over the Stick. Oh well, ATV is on the way I guess. There's a number of people who are more invested in the Amazon ecosystem who are getting the ATV but then selling it and buying a FTV instead.
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FCKGW posted:There's a number of people who are more invested in the Amazon ecosystem who are getting the ATV but then selling it and buying a FTV instead. Of all the ecosystems to invest in...
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FCKGW posted:There's a number of people who are more invested in the Amazon ecosystem who are getting the ATV but then selling it and buying a FTV instead. I was tempted to do this but then it was easier to just get the FTV and gift it to my sister.
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Is it feasible to stream HD / UHD content via Roku over wifi (e.g., without repeated buffering)? If yes, is there a baseline router throughput I should be looking for? It would be a for a home environment where multiple concurrent streams are unlikely; just wondering whether this is a situation where the answer, in practical terms, is "maybe, but it would be spotty so you really need to run some ethernet cable".
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I was streaming HD over wifi on a Roku 2 with a $40 Linksys router and a 5mbps internet connection (in the snow, uphill both ways  ) four or so years ago with no problems, so I imagine so (for 1080p at least).
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Unless the Roku has serious wifi issues, it should be fine. All of my streamers are wireless and I stream UHD without issue from my TV, Chromecast Ultra, and Nvidia Shield.
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Annual Prophet posted:Is it feasible to stream HD / UHD content via Roku over wifi (e.g., without repeated buffering)? If yes, is there a baseline router throughput I should be looking for? It would be a for a home environment where multiple concurrent streams are unlikely; just wondering whether this is a situation where the answer, in practical terms, is "maybe, but it would be spotty so you really need to run some ethernet cable". The current line pretty much all support wireless AC which can do 5GHz which is more than adequate. Just get a router that can broadcast it, though Wireless N might cut it. Fuzz fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Dec 7, 2016 |
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N is fine, that's all I have and it doesn't miss a beat.
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FCKGW posted:You can still get the ATV4 deal even if you signed up under a trial. To follow up on this, you can't do it from the same account. You need to sign up again from a new email address. Been a customer of DirectTV for 16 years and just left to go to ... DirecTV.
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bull3964 posted:N is fine, that's all I have and it doesn't miss a beat. Yea, my living room's One True Box is an X-Bone that only supports up to 5ghz N. Direct plays all my HD media, including un-hosed-with HDTV .TS files with no problem. I'd be surprised if streaming UHD gave it any trouble.
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OK many thanks everyone! This should make my configuration much simpler.
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Ixian posted:
I've read that Chromecast is laggy while receiving casts from tabs/mirroring. Anyone have experience doing this? I'm thinking about a Shield TV too (if I can find a place to buy one), any Shield TV owners cast tabs with HD video? quote:MLB.tv and NFL Game pass both have native FTV apps though through Amazon, do the browser-based versions offer more content or something? If not it would make more sense just to use those, then you don't need to deal with casting poo poo. The only way I can get Game Pass to work live is with a Brazilian VPN and an international account, so I run it in Windows. I tried the NFL Plex channel from the VPN'd machine without success. I'll probably end up using adfreetime or something similar for MLB, but last year I had problems with DNS services and MLB, so I'm preparing for the worst.
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Trillest Parrot posted:I've read that Chromecast is laggy while receiving casts from tabs/mirroring. Anyone have experience doing this? I'm thinking about a Shield TV too (if I can find a place to buy one), any Shield TV owners cast tabs with HD video? I use adfreetime for both NFL and NHL with no issues.
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Tab casting is trash and should only be used as a last resort. If your long term plan is "I'll just tab cast [X streaming site]" you're better off using a device that actually supports the content you want.
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What's the best (ideally) PC based solution for recording OTA broadcast TV on a schedule? This would be to hoard TV appearances on various news programs locally broadcast.
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DTV Now has been flawless tonight. Hope they keep scaling.
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photomikey posted:What's the best (ideally) PC based solution for recording OTA broadcast TV on a schedule? This would be to hoard TV appearances on various news programs locally broadcast. WMC is still very good, but it's dying out and you need Windows 7 or 8 as Don Lapre points out. For ongoing OTA DVR support that is actually quite good, try Emby Server. Plex has a DVR option too but it's not nearly as polished (and hasn't been updated in a while) whereas DVR with Emby is an ongoing thing that keeps improving. You'll need an HDHR Extend. Put that somewhere on your network where both the Emby server can see it and antenna placement is ideal. Yes, this can sometimes be a little tricky but that's the case with any OTA solution. Emby Server runs on a large variety of platforms including Windows, though many people stick it on a dedicated NAS with their media. It's primary use case is to serve local media, and it does a fine job at that, but you could use it as an OTA only solution if you wanted. The guide is very good and can pull data from Schedules Direct (best) and XML TV (free). Also it looks good and has station logo support. You'll need an Emby client that supports it, which right now is available on Android (including TV) iOS, and Amazon. There are also Apple TV and Kodi clients however neither of them support Live TV yet. I believe the web apps for the XBone and PS4 do support it if you are in to that. You can also use the standard HDHR app to get live TV directly on many devices, but I found its UX/guide to be fairly poor, overall. Perhaps it has improved.
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