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It does sound like this should have kicked in though https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT205296
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It is loading though, it's just loading your captive page. It's not getting dropped packets.
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It's a real downside of captive portals. The first time you connect to a WLAN with captive portal on an iPhone it immediately redirects you to the Terms and Conditions/Logon Page. Unfortunately, the iPhone (and any other phone really) *remembers* the WLAN and so reconnects automatically by default, but doesn't pull up the captive portal authentication. You need to manually open a browser to get the redirect for authentication to the captive portal. This means as far as the phone is concerned you are connected to the WLAN fine. What it doesn't know, is that you're aren't authorized to communicate to anything other than the captive portal page. So any app other than a browser will fail with messages that indicate you aren't on a network. It can be very confusing for an end-user.
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I don't know about Apple or Google phones, but my Windows phone will prefer cell network if it's connected to a wifi network that doesn't have internet connectivity. The last few times my home internet has gone down, my phone stayed on my home wireless, but used cell to connect out.
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I have a Google phone (on the latest Nougat dev preview, mind you) and in that situation it will autoconnect to the wifi network but it will remain connected to LTE until I authenticate with the captive portal.
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Galaxy s6 will connect and pop up the auth screen automatically, then disconnect if there is no connectivity. You have to turn the later setting on, however, and it apparently eats battery life.
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flosofl posted:Well, if it's a captive portal it didn't fail connecting to the WLAN. It failed on authenticating to the captive portal so it can communicate to anything other than the captive portal. But the WLAN part was working correctly. Android has a Connectivity checker that will make it not use WLAN if it's behaving wonky (and it catches our captive portal at least). Does iPhone not have something similar that can be configured? e:fb I should really refresh before replying Thanks Ants posted:It does sound like this should have kicked in though Yeah that!
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deimos posted:Android has a Connectivity checker that will make it not use WLAN if it's behaving wonky (and it catches our captive portal at least). Does iPhone not have something similar that can be configured? E: Meh, never mind Wifi Assist probably won't kick in since you've got strong signal and some connections are working NeuralSpark fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Dec 2, 2016 |
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NeuralSpark posted:I don't know if WiFI Assist will kick in if there's a strong wifi signal. In my experience it seems to be primarily keyed off the wifi signal strength. Both iOS and macOS have "captiveagent" that will attempt to load "http://www.apple.com/library/test/success.html" and, failing that, should pop up a modal Safari page to show the portal's login. It will continue to try to load that URL in the background for some number of retries, and (on iOS) then fail back to the cell carrier. My experience, which granted is a few iOS versions out of date, has been that this agent only runs on the first ever successful attempt to connect to a WLAN. Subsequent logins to the now remembered network do not trigger the connectivity test because it has already been passed. I've either had to remember myself to load a page in Safari to force authentication or disable connectivity to the network to force LTE usage.
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PremiumSupport posted:My experience, which granted is a few iOS versions out of date, has been that this agent only runs on the first ever successful attempt to connect to a WLAN. Subsequent logins to the now remembered network do not trigger the connectivity test because it has already been passed. I've either had to remember myself to load a page in Safari to force authentication or disable connectivity to the network to force LTE usage. That sucks. Android handles this fine, as we have the same type of setup here and my phone will not use the network until I do the portal thing because it knows that I have no actual connectivity  applesuxamirite?This seems like a goofy oversight and perhaps something that could be reported and fixed in future iOS versions?
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MF_James posted:That sucks. Android handles this fine, as we have the same type of setup here and my phone will not use the network until I do the portal thing because it knows that I have no actual connectivity Considering that it's been an issue on iphones for as long as there have been iphones, it doesn't seem like a high priority.
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It does not surprise me that a shiny overpriced toy for children does not function properly in a professional environment.
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It hasn't always worked well on Android, it used to gently caress with me every time I drove within a block of the baseball stadium since they had such huge fire-breathing antennae that my phone would connect from way outside the stadium and interrupt my streaming radio (usually the baseball game ironically)
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carry on then posted:It does not surprise me that a shiny overpriced toy for children does not function properly in a professional environment. You must be fun at parties. The Nards Pan posted:It hasn't always worked well on Android, it used to gently caress with me every time I drove within a block of the baseball stadium since they had such huge fire-breathing antennae that my phone would connect from way outside the stadium and interrupt my streaming radio (usually the baseball game ironically) I had similar issues with my old ATT HTC One. It was pre-configured to automatically connect to "attwifi" hotspots, and there was a FedEx store with one of these hotspot 2 doors down from my work at the time. My phone would randomly switch over to the attwifi and not be able to access the internet until I switched it back.
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carry on then posted:It does not surprise me that a shiny overpriced toy for children does not function properly in a professional environment. come on man we've already got a slapfight going in the working in IT thread, do we need another one in the ticket thread? edit; just brought a remote site from independent network to full VPN tunnel on my primary network. They have wifi out there so I decided to check it and make sure it's secured. Password is "temptemp", is broadcast in a public area near a high school, and connects to their internal production environment. The loving MSP that predated me is the absolute worst. Judge Schnoopy fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Dec 2, 2016 |
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Judge Schnoopy posted:come on man we've already got a slapfight going in the working in IT thread, do we need another one in the ticket thread? Some people have religion. Others have OS manufacturers.
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flosofl posted:Some people have religion. Others have OS manufacturers. Death to Lenovo.
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Methanar posted:Death to Lenovo. Death to vi.
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The Fool posted:Death to vi. Nano supremacy
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Death to printers!
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Serious answer to the iPhone issue: reset the phone's network settings: Settings -> General -> Reset -> Reset Network Settings It is a full bore reset and kinda overkill, but that is your best bet to make an iPhone that can't hold a captive portal connection
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Migishu posted:Death to printers!
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Aunt Beth posted:The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
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Ignore me, I didn't see there was another page of posts before posting.
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The Fool posted:Death to vi. I actually managed to get my hands on an improved version. It's not bad 
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flosofl posted:It's a real downside of captive portals. The first time you connect to a WLAN with captive portal on an iPhone it immediately redirects you to the Terms and Conditions/Logon Page. Unfortunately, the iPhone (and any other phone really) *remembers* the WLAN and so reconnects automatically by default, but doesn't pull up the captive portal authentication. Sounds like the captive portal you're using is faking the response for http://captive.apple.com/hotspot-detect.html which is naughty.
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ookiimarukochan posted:Sounds like the captive portal you're using is faking the response for http://captive.apple.com/hotspot-detect.html which is naughty. WiFi portals that do this are the bane of my life. Looking at you, the Cloud.
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Possibly getting denied a vacation day because "the other NY person is already on vacation that day" is such a lovely reason. It's the loving day before Christmas weekend, I highly doubt there will be anything that requires an onsite visit. Maybe if the rest of the support team could get their heads out of their asses and stop loving up support for our NY clients then this bullshit wouldn't have to keep getting shoved on me.
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pr0digal posted:Possibly getting denied a vacation day because "the other NY person is already on vacation that day" is such a lovely reason. It's the loving day before Christmas weekend, I highly doubt there will be anything that requires an onsite visit. They hired another Jewish guy at my old job (well, the owners were Jewish too) and stuck him on my team which meant it was a race to get the holidays off.
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At my last job, my boss was observant Orthodox. He knew I was Jewish (He and his boss, the chief accountant, and I were all going back and forth making Yiddish jokes during my interview) but not observant. The other IT guy, the helpdesk dude, was observant Christian to the point that Sunday was treated as an uncontactable day in the same vein as sundown Friday to sundown Saturday being Sabbath for my boss. So when he was fired due to consistently refusing to get treatment for sleep apnea, causing him to fall asleep multiple times daily, I got to cover each and every Friday night and Saturday as an on-call day for a 24-7-365 operation. He got Sundays, which I then got off, but still, it wasn't fun. I keep thinking I should wear a yarmulke to my next interview, should this job go south (I hope it doesn't, this current job rocks pretty hard) and claim the same religious observance but the second I have a salami sandwich, or a carnitas burrito, it's game over :-( lastjob!Boss was also observant such to the point that he was basically off from Erev Rosh Hashanah all the way through the last night of Sukkot. He'd be in for the few days after Yom Kippur and before Sukkot, but all the other Jewish holidays which were considered less important to my reform upbringing (e.g. Yom Ha'atzmaut, Simchat Torah, etc.) and thus just an extra night at the synagogue during the week were multi-day religious observance holidays for him. It wreaked havoc with his PTO - he'd been with the company for upwards of 10 years and with all those days, he'd maybe have an actual weekend of vacation and/or sick time per year. MJP fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Dec 5, 2016 |
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MJP posted:But the second I have a salami sandwich, or a carnitas burrito, it's game over :-( Like anyone would actually notice, or care enough to point it out.
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Never underestimate the power of some dickhead petty angry that someone gets off for 'some bullshit holiday' or however they view it.
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pixaal posted:Like anyone would actually notice, or care enough to point it out. You'd be surprised as gently caress about that.
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Pretending a religion to get days off is heinous and should get you fired imo.
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Those vegan alternatives are amazing nowadays. You really can't tell the difference. 
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I have found myself in a Camus-ian or Heller-esque situation where my best hope for getting a 40% pay hike(half of six figures is 3 figures, right?) and a promotion I've been working toward most of my life hinges on me convincing everybody in management that I do nothing most days and have accomplished nothing substantial in the past year. If I get this I get bumped from Tier 2 to Tier 3 Japanese support in a department that has as many people as there are support tiers (my boss is currently tier 3), and I get to be a cluster toucher and put cluster touching on my resume. I still probably have to work Tier 1 English support no matter what, but whatevs I get an English ticket less than twice a month. I escalated literally 2 tickets to my boss the entire year. I escalated a single ticket to a support contractor. I closed, by the most generous possible count, 60 tickets this year. I'm in hour 9 of compiling a record of the very few things I've touched in the past year in order to make my case. Please send ErIog fucked around with this message at 12:07 on Dec 6, 2016 |
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spankmeister posted:Pretending a religion to get days off is heinous and should get you fired imo. All religions are pretend anyway 
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flosofl posted:All religions are pretend anyway Turn left thread nooooooooooo
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Renewing my "gently caress Project Managers" mantra. Got a text from a PM (who I can only describe as "Captain DudeBro" to accurately capture his persona) at 7pm last night asking for an update on a project (that is non-critical). I have a 3-hour+ round-trip commute (I ride in a van-pool), and by the time I get home, I typically have 2-3 hours (when I'm not oncall) to spend with my family, so gently caress your project updates off-hours. I sent an email with the project update and a very nicely worded version of "If you text me for project updates off-hours again I'll kill your family and gently caress your mother", cc-ing his and my lead. Motherfucker texted me again this morning asking for an update, to which I replied "I emailed you. Don't text me off hours". Seriously, wtf is wrong with people? I contemplated replying to his text at 4:30am, which is when I normally get up in the morning, but decided to take the high-road.
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kensei posted:Turn left thread nooooooooooo *turns right*
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