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Quicksilver6
Mar 21, 2008



It's really a bad sign for your story when you hate the person saying "GOLLY BE OPEN MINDED AND TOLERANT" and sympathize with the grouser.

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Arkanumzilong
Sep 10, 2016
A while back steam was oddly insistent on recomending this game for me
I Always thought it looked painfully stupid (and from the very first images on its page could tell it was trying to pander to the furriest of furryes)
I considered buying it to see just how stupid it actually could be (and to see how much cringe I and some friends could handle from it)
Thankfully, due to your noble sacrifice, I can face the cringe without taking a blow to the wallet :p

Edit: having cringed my way past the second update... the steam page does not even begin to touch on how 'stereotypically 'furry this stuff gets

Arkanumzilong fucked around with this message at 06:16 on Dec 6, 2016

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


That's Yorouichi. That's a loving bird Yorouichi. The hair, her figure, her pose, there's no way they didn't just retrace Yorouichi from Bleach screenshots.

quote:

Enter Rook, the social assassin. Blurting out the things we don't dare to.
...
He looks defeated. See - that's why I refrained.

Careful, that's dangerously close to having a personality.

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER

SSNeoman posted:

That's Yorouichi. That's a loving bird Yorouichi. The hair, her figure, her pose, there's no way they didn't just retrace Yorouichi from Bleach screenshots.

I don't know, man- I mean, I'm not a Bleach fan (not anymore, at least), but I'm not seeing Yoruichi in the griffon thing.

Zain
Dec 6, 2009

It's only forever, not long at all
I know the artist that worked on this game. Needless to say after all the time she spent working with Klace, she no longer talks to him. He treated her like she was his personal art servant.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



Tale as old as time

Akratic Method
Mar 9, 2013

It's going to pay off eventually--I'm sure of it.

Any day now.



Between the capitals and the, you know, all-consuming furry horror, I can't read this any way except in the dire tone with which one might say "you got AIDS."

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



Blarghalt, or Inthesto or someone, you want to weigh in on how the features list for the game includes:

* Length Of Several Novels
* 30 Characters to Interact With
* Forge Friendships With An In-Depth Affection System
* SMS System: Send and Receive Text Messages To/From Characters
* Many Choices Leading to Different Experiences
* Multiple Endings
* Steam Trading Cards
* Controller Support
* Steam Achievements
* Steam Link and Steam Overlay Support

... and how many of these turn out to actually exist?

Gloomy Rube
Mar 4, 2008



Data Graham posted:

* Controller Support

Love that he lists an RPG Maker feature as a feature of his game :allears:

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

* Convenient Pre-Packaged Executable File, Now Compatible With MicrosoftTM WindowsTM Operating Systems

Cathode Raymond
Dec 30, 2015

My antenna is telling me that you're probably wrong about this.
Soiled Meat

Zain posted:

I know the artist that worked on this game. Needless to say after all the time she spent working with Klace, she no longer talks to him. He treated her like she was his personal art servant.

Klace is the name of a real person in addition to this story's Jay Gatsby-type figure? gently caress. I know someone brought up the kickstarter insert problem but this is too much.


Data Graham posted:

Blarghalt, or Inthesto or someone, you want to weigh in on how the features list for the game includes:

* Length Of Several Novels
* 30 Characters to Interact With
* Forge Friendships With An In-Depth Affection System
* SMS System: Send and Receive Text Messages To/From Characters
* Many Choices Leading to Different Experiences
* Multiple Endings
* Steam Trading Cards
* Controller Support
* Steam Achievements
* Steam Link and Steam Overlay Support

... and how many of these turn out to actually exist?

Insofar as any of these features exist, they would only serve to drag you deeper into this nightmare.

inthesto
May 12, 2010

Pro is an amazing name!
Blarghalt has already pointed out that the texting feature is a blatant lie. As far as I know, you can get one other character's phone number, and then the entire thing is forgotten. To note, remember how I pointed out that the first chapter has gone through the editing process? That means the dev actually went back and reviewed the game's script and never realized that the texting thing went nowhere and needed to be removed. Just left this totally vestigial non-feature after the editing process.

I took a headcount in the game files, and there's only 29 characters. I guess that's not missing the listed feature by much, but I will say that when I was going to estimate it in my head, I was expecting something more like 12. That's how unnecessary and unmemorable most of the characters are. Also, there's at least one character that I can say with 100% certainty the narrator never actually interacts with; that number might actually be as high as four or five.

As for "many choices leading to different experiences", I double checked against a walkthrough and there's a grand total of 23 choices in the entire game. I can't say for sure how much they alter the plot because without text skipping this game is ten times as painful to sit through, but given how lazy and incompetent this game has been so far, I'm going to guess the answer is "not at all".

Oh, and the in-depth affection system? We've gotten +1 affection from Rook for texting him that our train would be on time, and -1 affection from Kila for not being into Maid Cafe's (tm). Depth!

Schubalts
Nov 26, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life, I think I've gone too far.

Data Graham posted:

... and how many of these turn out to actually exist?

PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFffffffffffffffffffffft.

Cathode Raymond posted:

Klace is the name of a real person in addition to this story's Jay Gatsby-type figure? gently caress. I know someone brought up the kickstarter insert problem but this is too much.

Klace is the developer himself, yes.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



"30 Characters to Interact With" implies that you as the player have some form of choice or agency in who you interact with, yes? And when?

This game is just a series of screens of dialogue, presented to you in an unending stream as you press the "next" button. I think there's maybe something like twenty "choices" you are ever given (e: missed your actual count, lol oops), all vague steering inputs on the plot. That's the extent to which you "play" the game. Nothing even remotely approaching something like "I know, I think I'll go talk to Kila now, see what he has to say".

Fundamental misunderstanding of what a "game" (or even a "visual novel") is on the author's part, and what's up in the air is whether it's due to incompetence or malice.

Data Graham fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Dec 6, 2016

Serperoth
Feb 21, 2013




Blarghalt posted:

This is loving redrawn porn. You will never convince me otherwise.

:allears:

My money's on either SFW version of a porn pic (rather than specifically a redraw after the fact), or from an actual porn thing, just from the "intro" or whatever it'd be called.

Zain
Dec 6, 2009

It's only forever, not long at all

Cathode Raymond posted:

Klace is the name of a real person in addition to this story's Jay Gatsby-type figure? gently caress. I know someone brought up the kickstarter insert problem but this is too much.

From what I've heard, the game was strictly to fuel his own ego. Not sure if that's really his IRL name, but the artist always referred to him as that. Might just be his fursona.

Mechanical Ape
Aug 7, 2007

But yes, occasionally I am known to smash.
So wait, what is this magical fate power Rabies has? The ability to save the game? Is Klace trying to go for a furry Undertale here?

Croccers
Jun 15, 2012
Oh it's totally an ego project, through and through. The super-duper cool person you're meeting in-game is himself and used RPG Maker over ren'py. The actual game came second to the amount of ego-stroking he could claim from getting a furry game on Steam (It also meant he could get him and his friends Steam emotes. Double the amount actually because there's two versions of this game on Steam).
Having said that, this is a marvellous train-wreck :allears:

Blarghalt posted:



And let the sergals eat up all our food and marry all our daughters? Over my dead body! :argh:
Shhhh don't say that word, you'll have to pay royalties to the person that 'created' the species and remove the character from the game. http://techraptor.net/content/visual-novel-majorminor-taken-off-of-steam-due-to-dmca-claims
The character in question:


Croccers fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Dec 6, 2016

Blarghalt
May 19, 2010

Croccers posted:

Oh it's totally an ego project, through and through. The super-duper cool person you're meeting in-game is himself and used RPG Maker over ren'py. The actual game came second to the amount of ego-stroking he could claim from getting a furry game on Steam (It also meant he could get him and his friends Steam emotes. Double the amount actually because there's two versions of this game on Steam).
Having said that, this is a marvellous train-wreck :allears:

Shhhh don't say that word, you'll have to pay royalties to the person that 'created' the species and remove the character from the game. http://techraptor.net/content/visual-novel-majorminor-taken-off-of-steam-due-to-dmca-claims
The character in question:




Oh yeah, completely slipped my mind. There's actually at least three characters (Including the one you posted) that were previously in the game, but got removed due to the owners of the respective fursonas divorcing themselves from the project. Evidently Klace is not a very easy person to work with! :v:

sturgeon general
Jun 27, 2005

Smells like sushi.

Croccers posted:

Shhhh don't say that word, you'll have to pay royalties to the person that 'created' the species and remove the character from the game. http://techraptor.net/content/visual-novel-majorminor-taken-off-of-steam-due-to-dmca-claims
The character in question:




Not exactly fair to throw 'created' in scare quotes when Mick actually did make up sergals, but yeah, infringing on someone else's IP/OC species is the icing on the cake.

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Please post more about this Klace person- it's already starting to sound more entertaining than the game itself :allears:

Contra Calculus
Nov 6, 2009

Gravy Boat 2k

CommissarMega posted:

Please post more about this Klace person- it's already starting to sound more entertaining than the game itself :allears:

From what I can gather, he's a furry that suffers from Digital Homicide syndrome.

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer

Data Graham posted:

Birds have giant mammaries, right?
Actually this is one thing that always gets me about furries: shouldn't the assorted wolves and such have like six of those?

Blarghalt
May 19, 2010

CommissarMega posted:

Please post more about this Klace person- it's already starting to sound more entertaining than the game itself :allears:

Just remember, you asked for this.

So during the course of the game, you never actually meet Klace. He shows up in a separate scene during one of the endings, but is otherwise conspicuously absent. However, the writing of the game just assumes you know everything about him, so for the sake of knowing what the guy actually looks like, I fished out his portrait in the game's files.



Are you scared?

Good. :kheldragar:

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Contra Calculus posted:

From what I can gather, he's a furry that suffers from Digital Homicide syndrome.

If this is true, then Blarghalt? I hope you're fat and British enough to be his Jim Sterling :colbert:


i can't stop giggling

send help

Schubalts
Nov 26, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life, I think I've gone too far.

anilEhilated posted:

Actually this is one thing that always gets me about furries: shouldn't the assorted wolves and such have like six of those?

Sometimes they do.

CommissarMega posted:

If this is true, then Blarghalt? I hope you're fat and British enough to be his Jim Sterling :colbert:

His Jim Sterling is one of the people who left a negative Steam review. Klace incited anger and threats against him and other reviewers, and I think he even tried to doxx the guy.

e: This one. Spoilers in the review, but the comments thread alone is insane.

Schubalts fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Dec 6, 2016

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer
Wait, you're saying that the author self-insert isn't actually the main protagonist whom we'll see saving the furdom from certain doom?
Hopes shattered.

Blarghalt
May 19, 2010

Schubalts posted:

Sometimes they do.


His Jim Sterling is one of the people who left a negative Steam review. Klace incited anger and threats against him and other reviewers, and I think he even tried to doxx the guy.

e: This one. Spoilers in the review, but the comments thread alone is insane.

Shhhh, that review reveals one of the best parts of this game. :ssh:

Blarghalt fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Dec 6, 2016

Zain
Dec 6, 2009

It's only forever, not long at all

Croccers posted:

Oh it's totally an ego project, through and through. The super-duper cool person you're meeting in-game is himself and used RPG Maker over ren'py. The actual game came second to the amount of ego-stroking he could claim from getting a furry game on Steam (It also meant he could get him and his friends Steam emotes. Double the amount actually because there's two versions of this game on Steam).
Having said that, this is a marvellous train-wreck :allears:

The funny thing is there's already a lot of games made by furries on steam. Dust comes to mind. There's others too but that's probably THE most prominent one that I can think of.

But yeah Klace for all intensive purposes is an rear end in a top hat. And since he is, he's then popular cause that's how it works for some reason. The bigger rear end in a top hat you are the more popular you tend to be. (Biting social commentary)

Orange Fluffy Sheep
Jul 26, 2008

Bad EXP received

Mechanical Ape posted:

So wait, what is this magical fate power Rabies has? The ability to save the game? Is Klace trying to go for a furry Undertale here?

I am going to assume that we haven't seen it yet because the lesson Persona 4 taught the author was to wait as long as possible to introduce the conflict and the protagonist's stake in and involvment with it. Just have a supernatural being ensure you that you matter but never demonstrate it.

Wait no that's the opposite of what he should have learned.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Data Graham posted:

* Length Of Several Novels

I'm going to bet this one does for sure. One really common trait in lovely amateur sci-fi/fantasy/whatever (Considering Tigertrump and Furry Outsider this is obviously going to be a sprawling sci-fantasy 'epic') writing is 'if I write more words I'm better right :downs:' and a profound hatred of editing.

Deep Dish Fuckfest
Sep 6, 2006

Advanced
Computer Touching


Toilet Rascal
Well who'd remember War and Peace if not for the fact that it competes in length with most dictionaries?

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer

Night10194 posted:

I'm going to bet this one does for sure. One really common trait in lovely amateur sci-fi/fantasy/whatever (Considering Tigertrump and Furry Outsider this is obviously going to be a sprawling sci-fantasy 'epic') writing is 'if I write more words I'm better right :downs:' and a profound hatred of editing.
The Patrick Rothfuss Syndrome.

Contra Calculus
Nov 6, 2009

Gravy Boat 2k
As a wise man once told me: The best way to determine the literary value of something is to print it out on A4 paper, drop it in a bathtub and see how big of a splash it makes.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.


This was from awhile back but I feel this would be a far superior game.

Hiveminded
Aug 26, 2014
Stare too long into the abyss, etc.

Seriously though this is so awful that it busts right past "hilariously bad" to instead "actively repulsive."

rudecyrus
Nov 6, 2009

fuck you trolls

Night10194 posted:

I'm going to bet this one does for sure. One really common trait in lovely amateur sci-fi/fantasy/whatever (Considering Tigertrump and Furry Outsider this is obviously going to be a sprawling sci-fantasy 'epic') writing is 'if I write more words I'm better right :downs:' and a profound hatred of editing.

Even if it's not, it sure feels like it.

Blarghalt
May 19, 2010



And once again, we're taken away to a whole other planet without any warning!



This guy looks like a popsicle.





And that is someone's Digimon OC.

So, I have to ask. Was the evidence real?

It doesn't matter. It helped us. Means to an end -- I believe they say. We have everything we need to take him out.

I doubt Plair will go down without a fight. It won't be pleasant for Caylen or Kabu. What do you think he'll do, Endymion?

They'll be put into interrogation, I think. But this doesn't cause me much concern. Caylen has been trained to resist torture.



I'm pretty sure Tiger Trump wouldn't allow mail to or from the person he just had arrested.



Evidence such as a hastily-written note that reads "GET ME OUT OF HERE YOU HOT TOPIC-LOOKING FUCKS"

So Caylen can resist torture, eh? He looks pretty frail to me. And Kabu? He'll probably face the brunt of this.

It's a worthy sacrifice, isn't it? Kabu did this willingly.

I guess. I can see it now: "Assassin's Guild ousts corrupt politician". It's gotta help our reputation, right?



Forming a straight-up Assassin's Guild seems like a pretty good way to draw attention.

I guess. Just trying to make conversation.

...If people found out about us...They'd quickly find that the King funds us. Then -he'd- be the one getting ousted.

Fine. So what do we do now?



Once again, how is Caylen gonna be able to contact these two when he's being constantly held under guard?



In the meantime, Plair's running a private prison in his house. Also, how did he have the authority to arrest Caylen? Why was he giving a speech in a courtroom?

With that said, the "ritual" is our goal. It helps us on both fronts, Konrad.

The ritual? Again? You sound like you're stuck on a loop. Our track record of failure is demotivating. You know how Velasquez feels about failure.

But we get an offworlder no matter what. If that happens, we bring them to Plair. We gain his trust through these "failures". It's symbiotic, Konrad.

It's cold, Endymion.

Yes. It gives me chills.



I probably couldn't stand to look at Konrad for more than a few minutes either.



Who hasn't used the Assassin's Guild as a springboard into the Accountant's Guild?



These two are supposed to be professional assassins. Remember that.



Back to Earth Prime!



From what I understand, Chapter One has gone through at least two rewrites but there's still typos everywhere.



Where's the bar? Rabies refuses to be around Rook and Kila at the same time without being smashed.



How is Rook 'witty'? That is not a personality trait that has been established with him at loving all. All he's done is repeat the dictionary at us and get pissy when things don't go his way.



Hey Rook, what's your favorite color? I bet I'll never guess it.



Can't have a visual novel without some kind of hamfisted romance. :parrot:





You mean the asylum they keep Hideo Kojima locked in most of the year?





Looking at Kila objectively, yeah I actually can believe that.





C'mon Rook, I won't blame you for manning up to pointing out Kila's creepiness.



Well okay if you say so. B̲̘̳̬̗̈ͮ̽̋͆͊̓͠E͎͓̖͍͎ͩ͡G͙̗̒͊͊̂͊͞I͇͋ͬ̌ͤ̔̍N͇͓̯̪͈̼͍ͭͥ͌͠ ̬͈͍͚̦͚̦ͮ͞T̛͉͉͆̂͗̚H͏͍E̕ ̧̣̹̣͖ͥͧ̽̈ͬ̚F̩́͑Ų͈̣̬͔̻̚Ŝ̨̘̯̙͇ͨͯͭ͛I̧̊̓̾O͇̥̱̰̾́̑̂ͤ͌ͭN̷̋ ̯̜̞ͩŎ̗͕̞̽̍̐̍̓͂F̝̆͛̆̿̓̃̉ ͎͇F̑̾́L̶͎̫̗̖̐̃̅E̺̩̺̦͚ͦS̭͙ͣH̶̹͇̥̼

He cringes as he says the word "bond". Instead of acknowledging that, I notice something else. I can hear some noise coming up from the passenger seat. Was somebody up there with Jade? I ask Rook about this.

Oh, you noticed huh? Inumi -- do you want to say hey?





Is there any particular reason he's wearing a fishnet shirt under his hoodie?

That was Klace's brother, Inumi.

Klace's brother? But he looks nothing--

It's Klace's brother, Inumi!



I posted a picture of Klace earlier, but keep in mind that he still hasn't shown up in the game. I would otherwise have no idea what Klace looks like, and would just have to take the game's word for it that Inumi doesn't look like him.

Well, that's cool!

Very cool indeed.

I can't tell if he's sincere or not...

Well, moving on...I should go over the basics with you two. Just stuff to know before I let you wander. Make sure you're paying attention, alright? Feel free to take notes if you need to.

Kila and I lean forward and listen intently.



Eh, Rabies is American. He will punch everyone in the face and make them apologize.





I'm no speaker of Japanese, but I know 'Gaijin' is a mild pejorative at best. Maybe Rook is being sarcastic here, but for some reason I doubt it.

It's nice to know Rook can be civil and polite. For once he's actually helping us. I assumed his default mode was "condescend everyone".

He hands each of us a book. I put mine in my pocket. It's definitely travel sized -- I'm sure it'd help. That was one of the things I was actually worried about. If someone tried to talk to me and I couldn't talk back.

Oh, I almost forgot. There's one last thing you should know. It relates to the current events in Tokyo.

It's mostly superstition, of course. But it's got everyone up in arms. So it's better that you hear it from me.

What is it?





Klace doesn't take inspiration from his favorite games so much as he rips them off wholesale. While this is the part where we rip off Persona 4, we'll be taking a long winding path where you can plainly tell what media Klace had most recently consumed that affected his writing. We'll be seeing stolen poo poo from Undertale to Danganronpa.

Tokyo's been hit by suicide and murder. More and more cases with each passing day. But it gets a little weirder than that. All of the cases happen at midnight...Like clockwork -- right on the dot.

Are you serious?

Of course I'm serious. The deaths have been mysterious in nature. No culprit for the murders -- no evidence. That's why it has everybody talking. The "crime scenes" don't add up at all. What happened is physically impossible.

But to us -- that's not really important. There's something far more noteworthy...And that's when the deaths first started.

What do you mean?

I know it's coincidence, but...These deaths started a month ago. On the night of our arrival in Tokyo.



Question: how do people know they're dying exactly at midnight? Is the killer leaving a sticky note on the corpse saying "I COMMITTED THIS MURDER AT 12:00 AM" ?

Some people think the tour is an ill omen. That perhaps being here is the cause of it.

What!? That's not nice!

Indeed. I hope that explains some things. Especially why we kept your arrival quiet. We didn't need any more fanfare around us. Restrictions are even being put upon Klace. So don't feel singled out in all of this. Everyone is being affected equally here.

So to that end, please stay quiet. Don't let anybody know why you're here. At least not for the next little while.



HEY RANDOM PEDESTRIAN, YOU'RE NEVER GONNA GUESS WHO JUST CONFESSED TO THE MIDNIGHT MURDERS



For those playing at home, yes, Singe is a dragon.



If it's all the same to you, Rabies would prefer an express ticket back to the States.



Stay quiet and sew Kila's mouth shut, got it

Yes, of course. Don't want to make things worse. Klace must be under enough stress as it is.

Yeah -- I can tell it's affecting him. It's good that you heard this from me. You know how rumors and grapevines can be. People are even saying he's the killer. They're connecting totally unrelated events. Our arrival has nothing to do with this.

But you know how it works, right? People always need something to blame. A figurehead for all of their problems.

I suppose that's true. But they should focus on the real culprit. Klace is harmless -- he couldn't do that!

You're telling me. But it's still odd. Suicides are happening at midnight, too...

It's not just a killer. It's something else. And whatever it is -- we have no idea. Some people are blaming the supernatural. But I never really believed in that stuff.



So, how about them Cubs?



This writing is so obtuse it's actually kind of impressive.



I bet Rabies could scare Kila to death by putting on a bedsheet ghost costume and going ooga booga booga.





Actually, now that I think of it, I believe the contest winners actually go on the whole tour with Klace. Does that have any actual precedent in real life? Like at all?



THOUSANDS DEAD IN OTAKU STAMPEDE





I hope they have Inuyasha on VHS! :buddy:

Blarghalt fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Feb 11, 2017

Mechanical Ape
Aug 7, 2007

But yes, occasionally I am known to smash.
Caylen's a he? Is Jade the only female character so far?

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Miacis
Oct 9, 2012

Get off my lawn!!
I think the murders happening at midnight comes from Persona 3. Certainly a whole different school of thought than 4.

Blarghalt posted:



Is there any particular reason he's wearing a fishnet shirt under his hoodie?
Family tradition. Inami at least wears it past the waist.


Seeing as species is the main way to differentiate furry characters in those stories, Inamu honestly could pass for his sibling. Or at least his darker dopier side.

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