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SeANMcBAY posted:ED 2013 was a fine modern horror movie but it would have been better if it wasn't an ED remake, if that makes sense. Yeah. If it had just had another name then it would have just been a good horror that kind of vaguely ripped off Evil Dead's premise but took it in a way more straight direction. It wouldn't have the burden of being compared to Ash, The Evil, or Deadites. Of course it also wouldn't have carried the attention of being an Evil Dead remake and might have just been lost in the mess of generic horrors.
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Referencing back to the future 2 was probably my favorite reference in this episide, tbh. Nerdy reference AND explain time travel risks in one efficient dialogue.
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Dec 6, 2016 22:31
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One of my favorite things about the Evil is that the Deadites COULD easily take out Ash by just retaining human form while he's beating the poo poo out of them in front of horrified onlookers, so that they'd think he was crazy and take him away (or shoot him or something). But that's just not as much FUN as popping out as a Deadite and hearing everybody gasp in horror, then getting to throw down with Ash  Meanwhile Baal did try to pull some clever variation on that which was his big mistake, because Ash is too stupid for clever to really work on him 
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Dec 6, 2016 22:46
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The Deadites always seemed more interested in just creating chaos and with no clear direction. So I never even concerned myself with the idea of them not taking out Ash smarter because they really didn't seem to have a plan at all. That was another big difference with the remake because the demon(s) actually had an actual plan and reason to be killing people. Only the show really introduced that idea to Ash's world. Until Ruby/Baal it all seemed like just evil things loving around. Which is definitely part of what made the Evil Dead franchise unique.
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Dec 6, 2016 22:51
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Deadites are pretty much joyriding teenagers.
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Dec 6, 2016 23:01
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People complain that remakes should try and do something different instead of just rehashing the original but then when remakes actually try and have a different tone or approach then people complain that it's too different and not true to the original. 
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Dec 6, 2016 23:08
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Guy Mann posted:People complain that remakes should try and do something different instead of just rehashing the original but then when remakes actually try and have a different tone or approach then people complain that it's too different and not true to the original. Quote one person who said that in this thread
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Dec 6, 2016 23:18
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Well I get it in this case since a good remake/sequel/reboot should stick to the idea/spirit of the franchise even if it finds a new way to approach it and ED 2013 didn't do that at all. It abandoned the chaotic nature of Deadites and whacked out dark humor for a much more straight forward demonic plan plot. It basically took the loose outline of Evil Dead without keeping the tone. Like I said, I think its a good movie on its own but its an arguably poor sequel or whatever part of the franchise its supposed to be. Although, again, I like to look at it as what happens if normal hosed up people encounter Deadites instead of Ash Williams. And Baal and Ruby help make the whole "Wait, they have a plan?" thing fit better.
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Dec 6, 2016 23:17
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STAC Goat posted:Well I get it in this case since a good remake/sequel/reboot should stick to the idea/spirit of the franchise even if it finds a new way to approach it and ED 2013 didn't do that at all. It abandoned the chaotic nature of Deadites and whacked out dark humor for a much more straight forward demonic plan plot. It basically took the loose outline of Evil Dead without keeping the tone. It's probably yet another case of a random generic haunted house script getting turned into whichever IP the execs figured would be the best fit wrt earning tons of money.
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Dec 6, 2016 23:23
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Best show on TV.
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Dec 7, 2016 00:53
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a foolish pianist posted:Deadites are pretty much joyriding teenagers. Haha, I was thinking that a trip up to possess a human and gently caress with Ash is probably the closest thing these guys get to a holiday, but I like the idea of them being joyriding teenagers even more Also I'm having trouble thinking of a funnier line this year than,"I'm gonna make like a tree.... AND gently caress YOU!" 
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Dec 7, 2016 00:59
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Jerusalem posted:Haha, I was thinking that a trip up to possess a human and gently caress with Ash is probably the closest thing these guys get to a holiday, but I like the idea of them being joyriding teenagers even more A couple of my favorites from this season, mostly because of the delivery: "Yes, I'm upset. Yes, I'm behind the wheel. Yes I'm drunk, and maybe my license isn't the fancy kind from the DMV, but at least I'm drunk!" "I will gently caress! YOUR FACES! WITH BULLETS!...Too much?" It's not a quote, but Ash covering the Ash puppet's mouth in the asylum when they are sneaking around deserves mention. Best show on TV.
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Dec 7, 2016 01:06
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Do you guys think we'll get to see The Evil in its fully summoned form that showed up at the end of Evil Dead 2?
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Dec 7, 2016 01:05
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"Man you can really taste the angel dust." I love this show.
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Dec 7, 2016 01:26
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I donno, I think my favorite line is still "that's what I call cleavage" from last season for sheer sadistic & puntastic glee.
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Dec 7, 2016 10:59
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And of course let's not forget: "Not the butt! Not the butt...... ooooooaaahhhh I'm in the butt!  "
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Dec 7, 2016 12:39
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Jerusalem posted:And of course let's not forget: Number one, never say "rear end" or "hole" in my presence ever again. Got it?
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Dec 7, 2016 16:18
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unlawfulsoup posted:Number one, never say "rear end" or "hole" in my presence ever again. Got it? Next week, I want Kelly to call Henrietta an rear end in a top hat, with Ash slightly shuddering in the background.
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Dec 7, 2016 16:44
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How on earth does this show keep on getting better? Like, I'm sure it should be impossible but it tops itself so regularly. Best thing on TV in decades.
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Dec 8, 2016 00:44
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Jerusalem posted:Haha, I was thinking that a trip up to possess a human and gently caress with Ash is probably the closest thing these guys get to a holiday, but I like the idea of them being joyriding teenagers even more Ruby after the tree battle: "It could have been worse." 
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Dec 8, 2016 02:52
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Zartosht posted:Ruby after the tree battle: "It could have been worse." "I'm sorry you got branch-banged and died, sis "
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Dec 8, 2016 03:06
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Jerusalem posted:"I'm sorry you got branch-banged and died, sis Speaking of Cheryl, what was Chet supposed to be doing in Cheryl's room when Ash caught him in there? Was he, uh, supposed to be spanking it while looking at her stuff?
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Dec 8, 2016 05:32
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Dec 8, 2016 05:34
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tbf to the evil dead remake, there are definitely some stuff which are hilarious but played out straight by the actors (the guy who read from the book being almost terminator-like unkillable until it's thematically important for him to die, and the male lead confusedly patting his body gently as he lets it float away in the water), but it does seem to lack some of the manic action of the other evil deads until perhaps the climatic fight at the end
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Dec 8, 2016 07:30
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I thought the remake was hilariously nasty. It played it kinda straight on the face but the timing and over the top cruelty was right out of ED2 and I found it to be a delight.
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Dec 8, 2016 17:13
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Robotnik Nudes posted:I thought the remake was hilariously nasty. It played it kinda straight on the face but the timing and over the top cruelty was right out of ED2 and I found it to be a delight. Wasn't there a plan at some point to unify the two universes?
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Dec 8, 2016 17:29
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Robotnik Nudes posted:I thought the remake was hilariously nasty. It played it kinda straight on the face but the timing and over the top cruelty was right out of ED2 and I found it to be a delight. I kind of felt the same way. At the start of the movie, it feels as though the horror is being played straight, but by the end it FELT like ED despite not having the exact same type of humor
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Dec 8, 2016 17:45
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Oscar Wilde Bunch posted:Wasn't there a plan at some point to unify the two universes? Well, this *did* happen after the credits. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0mYGWmQ7fc
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Dec 8, 2016 19:23
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Oscar Wilde Bunch posted:Wasn't there a plan at some point to unify the two universes? Yes, Ash vs Evil Dead was originally the name of the movie before they turned it into the name for the TV Show.
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Dec 8, 2016 20:44
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STAC Goat posted:Yeah. If it had just had another name then it would have just been a good horror that kind of vaguely ripped off Evil Dead's premise but took it in a way more straight direction. It wouldn't have the burden of being compared to Ash, The Evil, or Deadites. Definitely one of those rare movies/games/etc that I'd rate "Good movie, terrible sequel." There's a handful of them that are eluding me for some reason this second.
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Dec 8, 2016 20:50
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I wonder if the whole "earth-shattering secret"-thing that Brock was about to tell Ash will come up again. I mean, I'd totally understand if it didn't - that whole scene was text-book parody - but it would be interesting if it did.
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Dec 9, 2016 01:37
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So I just got the watch that last episode tonight and I cannot put into words my glee as it unfolded. The AoD references, the time travel, the 80's. Ash coping with Pablo's death by getting drunk/high and driving recklessly while loving Cutting Crew plays.
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Dec 9, 2016 02:40
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I was rewatching the first episode and never realized the bum they showed in the last episode, the guy Ash gave booze to in the past, recognizes him and says Ash ruined his life. This god drat show.
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Dec 11, 2016 03:28
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I'm a little disappointed that Ash didn't go through with cutting off his leg, because you know he'd replace it with a chainsaw too.
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Dec 11, 2016 03:53
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Robot Hobo posted:I'm a little disappointed that Ash didn't go through with cutting off his leg, because you know he'd replace it with a chainsaw too. If it wasn't for how difficult that prosthetic would be to wear I'm sure he would have
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Dec 11, 2016 04:00
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"I know, I'll suck the Evil out! Like a snakebite!" Ash's ideas are so astoundingly, outlandishly bad that they wrap back around into brilliance. Like I imagine that half formed thing was supposed to be another Bad Ash and just was not prepared for the lengths Ash will go to for bad ideas.
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Dec 11, 2016 05:21
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Also, Ruby's half offended, half flabbergasted "Absolutely not!" when he pointed at the time travel spell. You have to wonder if she even knew it existed before then.
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Dec 11, 2016 05:26
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limp_cheese posted:I was rewatching the first episode and never realized the bum they showed in the last episode, the guy Ash gave booze to in the past, recognizes him and says Ash ruined his life.
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Dec 11, 2016 15:36
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Chokes McGee posted:"I know, I'll suck the Evil out! Like a snakebite!" He's pretty much a hilarious parody of the know it all good at everything chosen one plotline used in so many movies.
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the whole finale was great but i think what clinched it was the straight up star wars ghosts at the end
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