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Zogo posted:You picked the Bulls. Dejan was the only one to select Pacers. Well then Dejan takes the prize but I at least have posts saying how bad they'd stink, they mean a lot to me Metapod posted:Wall scoring 52 and losing lmao that team is miserable
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The Pacers are 10-11 with PG missing time and playing GS twice/ LAC twice, they aren't going anywhere with the roster constructed as it is, but they aren't trainwrecks. I still think they are 45-50 wins depending on how healthy CJ Miles can be.
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We're a quarter of the way through now. Here are some shooting grades. Best shooting by position: code:Worst shooting by position: code:code:
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Dec 7, 2016 07:04
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this is extremely my poo poo
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Dec 7, 2016 07:35
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2015 draft was supposed to be super deep but look at those bad shooters who were top 10 picks
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Dec 7, 2016 07:47
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I submit to the court
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Zogo posted:We're a quarter of the way through now. Here are some shooting grades. Extremely surprised there were no Pelicans in the worst lists.
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Even if you wanted to decide on the rotations themselves it seems like it would make a ton of sense to delegate tracking and managing it in-game to someone.
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What do you think goes through the heads of those guys that have like, no minutes played and only come out in garbage time. Especially when they actually score points and rebound and generally play well. If you're a young player, maybe a rookie, maybe a second year player, and because of fun with statistics/small sample size you're technically your team's best player on PER or BPM.... Like, if you were on a winning team, I imagine most guys would be OK with it. But if you're on a losing or mediocre team, I can't imagine the dudes not sinking further and further into murderous rage. There's always a small handful a year. Why don't they ever play? Do they suck in practice? Iunno. There's 82 games in a season. I can't imagine you have much to lose by playing a garbage-time player with gaudy stats 3-5 minutes a game for a small stretch just so they level out. If they're actually bad, it shouldn't take more than a handful of games. If I were a coach, I'd want my top 6 guys in the rotation to definitively be the best guys on my team by advanced stats. I would want there to be no question that I was fielding the best possible lineup I have.
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most of those guys have legit reasons they aren't playing competitive minutes. Of course there are cases where coaches just seem to hate guys for some reason, but there's a lot of guys who are PER superstars in garbage time that you can't really play during a game (a lot of these guys are big men who finish really well around the rim, foul a lot and don't space the floor for poo poo).
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chunkles posted:most of those guys have legit reasons they aren't playing competitive minutes. Of course there are cases where coaches just seem to hate guys for some reason, but there's a lot of guys who are PER superstars in garbage time that you can't really play during a game (a lot of these guys are big men who finish really well around the rim, foul a lot and don't space the floor for poo poo). Like McHale with Canaan
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Dec 7, 2016 09:28
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Surprising me on the worst shooting list are Deng and Bazemore. I'm assuming Deng is just a husk at this point because he used to be a pretty efficienct scorer. I thought Bazemore still was a good scorer so I'm not sure. What's the deal with those two? The rest of the top and bottom ten make pretty good sense to me.
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What do you guys think about Bebe Noguiera. I watched a couple raptors reruns and he looks like an NBA player.Fast Luck posted:Beal is only 23 but looks to be awful on defense and has a forever stress fractured leg. I think all of us were living in a fool's paradise where Markieff's shooting would improve because John Wall is a great pg. It doesn't make sense in my head that Wall + Beal + Porter + Morris + Gortat isn't enough to win at least a couple more games. Especially with Porter doing his year 3 "ah hah I am quite a-good after all" reveal. Mahinmi was out, but that's like 25 minutes from a versatile but not world changing center. Markieff without threes, aging Gortat, no bench- Mahinmi, is basically the answer to the question, why are they so bad? It's not like they're a world away from good, but they'll have to make moves to get depth. It's probably too late for this season.
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Bebe has good pick and roll instincts and can move quickly for a dude his size so he's a decent man defender but his help defense is really bad. He has no offensive game to speak of aside from garbageman type stuff but he has decent touch around the basket and surprisingly good chemistry with Lowry. He's basically a rookie big man, so you can't judge him yet. However he's also one of the nicest and most honest human beings ever so he is completely unhateable even when he does something stupid on the court.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2maZRKGuPA This is the most depressing video of someone scoring 50+ I've ever seen. The arena is dead. The bench is dead. Life has no meaning etc. edit: quote:Coached by the Zen Master, the Knicks Try Mindfulness —— Phil Jackson, who introduced mindfulness exercises after becoming team president, now leads the sessions himself. Well worth the millions of $$$ he gets paid each year. Jack's Flow fucked around with this message at 14:41 on Dec 7, 2016 |
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Dec 7, 2016 14:13
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It's gonna be cool when Wall joins cousins in Sacramento. Sorry wiz fans
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roundmidnight posted:Bebe has good pick and roll instincts and can move quickly for a dude his size so he's a decent man defender but his help defense is really bad. He has no offensive game to speak of aside from garbageman type stuff but he has decent touch around the basket and surprisingly good chemistry with Lowry. He's basically a rookie big man, so you can't judge him yet. Also his nickname is Long Weeknd which is probably the best nickname in the NBA right now.
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Punkin Spunkin posted:I submit to the court This goes deeper than I originally thought 
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Guys. This goes way back. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNYzbesuUX0
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Away all Goats posted:It's gonna be cool when Wall joins cousins in Sacramento. Sorry wiz fans i've always heard rumblings about trying to get him down to san antonio. i'm sure they were mostly wishful thinking, but we need a pg
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I have no idea how the hell Sacramento is supposed to get Wall. Hey Washington do you want Willy Caulie Stein and a fat Greek guy???? Sure we'll take John Wall.
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Dec 7, 2016 15:59
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Bebe is also a great passer for a rookie big guy
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quote:"Carmelo a lot of times wants to hold the ball longer than -- we have a rule: If you hold a pass two seconds, you benefit the defense. So he has a little bit of a tendency to hold it for three, four, five seconds, and then everybody comes to a stop," Jackson said in an interview Color me a bit optimistic, but I did not see much (if any) iso Melo last night. They were mostly either catch and shoots, or quick moves off the pass. Maybe this is the year we go over .500
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I like Bebe but we're calling him a rookie like he hasn't been sitting on the raptors bench for what feels like the last decade
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Paul Zuvella posted:I have no idea how the hell Sacramento is supposed to get Wall. If they win the lottery, #1 overall, WCS and maybe a future unprotected first would seem about right (add filler if needed). So...not much chance. The other way might work too. Wizards win the lottery, give up #1 and some middling assets for DMC. Gortat-DMC-Porter-Beal-Wall is a team.
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Lockback posted:If they win the lottery, #1 overall, WCS and maybe a future unprotected first would seem about right (add filler if needed). So...not much chance. Sacramento can't trade an unprotected first until 2021. Also there is literally now way they can make that salary work without trading away Gortat. Further more, Sacramento does not have it's first this year. So it doesn't matter if they win the lottery or not.
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https://twitter.com/marcgasol/status/806350836020416512
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Paul Zuvella posted:Sacramento can't trade an unprotected first until 2021. Also there is literally now way they can make that salary work without trading away Gortat. Trust the Process.
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What the hell happened to Bazemore? He looked really good last year and murdered the Celtics in the playoffs.
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Paul Zuvella posted:Sacramento can't trade an unprotected first until 2021. Also there is literally now way they can make that salary work without trading away Gortat. You can trade after you select your guy to get past the Sepian rule, it's what Cleveland did with Wiggins. This year's pick is protected 1-17, so if they win the lottery they select the guy Washington wants, then trade his rights or sign him and wait 30 days if they need the salary fit. Its not likely, but right now Sac and Wiz would have ~2% chances at the top 1 and ~7% at top 3. THERE'S A CHANCE BOOGIE AND WALL CAN BE BFFS AGAIN.
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Lockback posted:You can trade after you select your guy to get past the Sepian rule, it's what Cleveland did with Wiggins. Morey fleecing the Kings posted:2017 first round draft pick to Philadelphia (swap, Philadelphia incoming) No, it's not.
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Lockback posted:You can trade after you select your guy to get past the Sepian rule, it's what Cleveland did with Wiggins. Uhhhhhhh Philly has the right to pick swap. There's literally no way they can win the lottery.
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Sacramento absolutely has its first this year
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euphronius posted:They could get 2 or 3. or 4,5,6,7,8,9 or even 10! WhyteRyce posted:Sacramento absolutely has its first this year No, they have "a" first. It's an important distinction. The quote was about them winning the lottery, which they literally have a 0% chance to do. The odds of their pick being in the top 4 are very, very low.
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Paul Zuvella posted:No, they have "a" first. It's an important distinction. The quote was about them winning the lottery Paul Zuvella posted:Further more, Sacramento does not have it's first this year. So it doesn't matter if they win the lottery or not. 
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I focused on Sac's pick conveying to Chicago, forgot about that pick swap. Whelp, looks like Boogie to Washington then.
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If Sacramento was to trade Cousins, there are a couple teams that have better looking assets than Washington unless you are sold on Bradley Beal being a healthy #1 or #2 guy.
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Paul Zuvella posted:No, it's not. Shouldn't this be Hinkie fleecing the Kings?
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Intruder posted:Shouldn't this be Hinkie fleecing the Kings? Yeah, I got my chubby, kind of weird but cool GMs mixed up. Yeah, I misspoke. The discussion was about winning the lottery and I should have made it more clear in my post that I'm referring to that situation
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