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Terper posted:I'd like to replace Gladio with Aranea and bring Iris along as my fifth member, please and thank you. This except please let me replace Gladio with Aranea, Prompto with Iris, Ignis with Cindy, and Noctis with Lunafreya Final Fantasy Sisterhood
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Sunning posted:They also added new conversations romance scenes because best girl got shafted. I thought this would happen after the patch. 
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Dec 7, 2016 16:01
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Legs Benedict posted:I get that ff7 has a remarkable, All Time lovely translation and that hampers things in terms of it being coherent, but to me the only constant/coherent aspect of 7's story was Sephiroth; I don't think that a better translation could make the "is Cloud Cloud? Who is Zack? Did Cloud steal Zack's identity?" any better than the jumbled mess it already was Yes, actually, it can. The answer is "Cloud is Cloud. Zack is another guy who was Cloud's friend. Cloud did steal Zack's identity." This is stated very clearly in the lifestream sequence. If that is incoherent to you then that is on you, not the game. It's even stated in the translated version very clearly, let alone in the Japanese version where it's super clear. Like the specific plot point you chose is one that is actually one of the overall best parts of FFVII's story in terms of foreshadowing, execution and payoff. It is a present ongoing thread throughout the game and (especially without a lovely translation) it is 100% perfectly explained within the context of the game through a lengthy segment that shows everything that happens. Unless you're complaining that a video game has a twist I'm not sure how you can call it incoherent. Legs Benedict posted:i'm open to hearing your thoughts on the matter, I just don't think I have ever spoken to another human being who thought either game was terribly coherent so I'm a bit flabbergasted Have you talked to people who actually played the game since they were 10? It sounds to me like you're thinking of people who go "oh man that plot is so complex I don't get it." Like even in the recent FFVII LP people's response was "oh, this makes a lot more sense that I remember, I just forgot about (X) (Y) and (Z) ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Dec 7, 2016 |
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Dec 7, 2016 16:05
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JazzFlight posted:As isk said above, wait: The main reason I think they died personally is they show up in the scene with Adryn in the astral realm or whatever, with the 2 people we know are dead, also the theme of the ending is the sacrifice of your life for a cause
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Dec 7, 2016 16:05
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Has anyone invested in the 999 skills to see which are worth it. I was thinking about grabbing link strip critical and link strike limit break cause a lot of combat in this game is blindside and counterattacking. Do these two make you do the insane damage I think they might?
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Dec 7, 2016 16:10
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How do you even get 999 AP, I don't think I got that much altogether in the whole game.
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Dec 7, 2016 16:20
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Sakurazuka posted:How do you even get 999 AP, I don't think I got that much altogether in the whole game. You drive and fish and camp a lot.
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Dec 7, 2016 16:36
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 Pretty accurate.
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Dec 7, 2016 16:39
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ImpAtom posted:Yes, actually, it can. The answer is "Cloud is Cloud. Zack is another guy who was Cloud's friend. Cloud did steal Zack's identity." This is stated very clearly in the lifestream sequence. If that is incoherent to you then that is on you, not the game. It's even stated in the translated version very clearly, let alone in the Japanese version where it's super clear. I'm more curious as to why they thought FF IX was incomprehensible. It's basically fantasy Blade Runner. An artificial being looking to extend his lifespan and throws a hissy fit because his creator cannot provide that. Death and mortality are such major core themes of IX, especially with Vivi and the Black Mages that even as a dumbass kid who misremembered VII and didn't understand VIII's Junctioning system, I still got what the story of IX was going for. I maybe didn't appreciate it until I was older, but I got it. To dismiss IX as incomprehensible means they're either being completely disingenuous or they are worse at paying attention than even my dumbass kid self. At least with VII I can understand why people misremember or get confused because a lot of things do go over your head until you really think about it and the garbage translation muddles things more than it should. The only thing that is completely out of place is the final boss, but even that makes sense when you consider that this part of the game is a huge homage to Final Fantasy III with Kuja and Xande having similar motives and Necron and Cloud of Darkness being similar entities. I do find it kind of funny that people decry Necron as coming out of nowhere but are pissed with XV's final boss because it's relatively simple and the final boss didn't go through a billion transformations or is a being that came out of nowhere though. Selenephos fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Dec 7, 2016 |
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Dec 7, 2016 16:42
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Another Vesperpool fishing question: I've found 5 fishing spots so far: west bank, east bank, cape, north bank, islet. Where and when does the Mighty Barramundi spawn?
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Dec 7, 2016 16:46
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ApplesandOranges posted:You drive and fish and camp a lot. Or, if you want to break your wrist, go fight the Imperial units near the sewers and warp strike like crazy.
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Dec 7, 2016 16:47
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Sakurazuka posted:How do you even get 999 AP, I don't think I got that much altogether in the whole game. Spend hours one-shotting low level enemies with warp strikes. Combine that with the enemy calling whistle thing and that point warp regen glitch thing for
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Dec 7, 2016 16:49
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Tabata's games tend to have unreasonable amounts of (optional) grind. Maybe it's because he got started in the portable market.
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Dec 7, 2016 16:52
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One thing for sure, if you can't hit for 9999, AP on the limit break nodes is a waste.
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Dec 7, 2016 16:57
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How are you supposed to beat Gladio at chocobo racing? He always has just enough stamina to pull ahead of you in the last stretch.
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Dec 7, 2016 17:15
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Deified Data posted:How are you supposed to beat Gladio at chocobo racing? He always has just enough stamina to pull ahead of you in the last stretch. What level is your chocobo? At 9, max stamina goes up and stamina recovery rate doubles. I haven't done the races because as far as I can tell, the rewards are just cosmetics (medals/colors).
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Dec 7, 2016 17:23
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Level 7 currently, I guess I'll wait for later. It seems impossible right now.
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Dec 7, 2016 17:25
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ImpAtom posted:Have you talked to people who actually played the game since they were 10? It sounds to me like you're thinking of people who go "oh man that plot is so complex I don't get it." Like even in the recent FFVII LP people's response was "oh, this makes a lot more sense that I remember, I just forgot about (X) (Y) and (Z) I have a friend that replayed it when it came to PS4 last year(?) and it was the worst because he just rabidly held on to whatever dumb ideas his child brain made up 20 years ago and refused to, you know, read the text that is plainly on the screen. I could see a ~10 year old being confused by unreliable narrators or a shape-shifting alien taking on the antagonist's form or whatever, but this guy is in his 30's now.
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Dec 7, 2016 17:27
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Saint Freak posted:I have a friend that replayed it when it came to PS4 last year(?) and it was the worst because he just rabidly held on to whatever dumb ideas his child brain made up 20 years ago and refused to, you know, read the text that is plainly on the screen. I could see a ~10 year old being confused by unreliable narrators or a shape-shifting alien taking on the antagonist's form or whatever, but this guy is in his 30's now. This might be shocking to you. But age is not a good indicator of intelligence.
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Dec 7, 2016 17:29
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Got my first summon prompt in the middle of a fight with three bees near the end of climbing the volcano. I killed two bees, and then summoned Ramuh just for the third because to make sure my unnecessary utilization of excessive force was properly focused.
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Dec 7, 2016 17:35
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Age is a good indicator of "has been exposed to the same kinds of plots over and over" gaining familiarity with predictable twists and turns
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Dec 7, 2016 17:35
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Lol at this pathos out of nowhere in chapter ten. Even the cooking. Tonal shift completely out of nowhere. This game is dumb but at least it's fun. This is where I am and I'm confused as to why these decisions were made and from the thread it's only going to go downhill from here. it was jarring to go from being able to choose whether to be a dick, to flat out "lol so anyway, I'm just gonna walk this way" and then Gladios in general. yikes
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Dec 7, 2016 17:38
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FFVII plot confusion tends to be a lot of things. I mean people think cloud is this edgy silent guy thanks to his depictions in all things outside of FFVII, but in FFVII he cracks jokes and is generally chill at the start of the game.
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Dec 7, 2016 17:39
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Oxxidation posted:Tabata's games tend to have unreasonable amounts of (optional) grind. Maybe it's because he got started in the portable market. I'm noticing, Everything seems like the numbers seem a little much for what they do. When the ap skills jump from 13Ap to like 333Ap, its like well woah um okay wow then I guess? The RNG pinball not pinball, would improve greatly if you earned at least 1 chest per wave/level in addition to slot chances. I wanted to do the 10K one 4 times because i wanted the main 3 elements and the 500K but couldn't manage to hold the patience more than 1 time.
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Dec 7, 2016 17:43
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Deified Data posted:How are you supposed to beat Gladio at chocobo racing? He always has just enough stamina to pull ahead of you in the last stretch. Feed ya bird those stamina greens and just cheat your way into making your bird look like an early cold war Soviet hero.
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Dec 7, 2016 17:52
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Sakurazuka posted:How do you even get 999 AP, I don't think I got that much altogether in the whole game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwrXgqyIQmg
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Dec 7, 2016 17:55
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Dec 7, 2016 18:02
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echronorian posted:Goon opinion on this game after being out a while? Dunno the 'goon opinion', but my opinion is it's not very good. The open-world mechanics are tedious and limiting, particularly the car. Combat is functional but far from deep, and it becomes outright annoying in narrow passageways or in fights with more than about 4-5 enemies. Some of the boss fights, particularly Titan, were hugely disappointing to me. The story has major structural problems to the point where SE was desperately patching in extra cutscenes in the day one patch and apparently will continue to do so for quite a while. Character development is shallow and apparently mostly happens in the Brotherhood anime thing. The magic system is both boring and overpowered, but on the plus side allows you to skip tedious fights by just nuking everything. Given that they're still finishing the game, IMO just wait until a final version or something approaching that comes out in 6-12 months or something. No point playing it now when some of the rougher edges might be smoothed out to some extent later on. Basically it's not Bubsy 3D levels of terrible or anything, but it has pretty serious flaws that at least for me got very frustrating. Also bear in mind opinions on this game are pretty varied, and will likely keep varying since the game is effectively still being developed. Personally I'm putting it down until they add in these major elements in the hope things will be more enjoyable down the road.
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Dec 7, 2016 18:21
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I'm nowhere near it but I was told Chapter 13 has a ton of jump scares. Can someone give me a low down because I'm a huge bitch baby that's faint of heart so jump scares seriously gently caress me up.
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Dec 7, 2016 18:38
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echronorian posted:Goon opinion on this game after being out a while? Top 3 Final Fantasy game. Very similar to MGS5 in how the excellent gameplay carries the incomplete or broken parts.
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Dec 7, 2016 18:41
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:I'm nowhere near it but I was told Chapter 13 has a ton of jump scares. Can someone give me a low down because I'm a huge bitch baby that's faint of heart so jump scares seriously gently caress me up. There's only like two or three. Chapter 13 is basically a Resident Evil game shoved into FFXV.
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Dec 7, 2016 18:42
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ImpAtom posted:There's only like two or three. Chapter 13 is basically a Resident Evil game shoved into FFXV. I didn't realize resident evil is that bad these days
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Dec 7, 2016 18:42
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echronorian posted:Goon opinion on this game after being out a while? I've played 32 hours and have spent zero time not having fun. I'm probably gonna get to like 60-70 before any of the DLC.
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Dec 7, 2016 18:44
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I don't have fun doing the pixel hunts to be honest. That and the one time my game crashed.
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Dec 7, 2016 18:48
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I did some poking around with the strategy guide this morning to answer some nagging questions, and thought I'd share them here because they're not easily inferred from the feedback & numbers you see in combat. Exploiting an enemy vulnerability is generally worth 20% more damage, although there are exceptions to this rule (most notably elemental weaknesses on flans, which are worth 300% bonus damage). Resistances are usually a 30% damage reduction, so it's more important to avoid them than exploit vulnerabilities. The resistance to light, which most not-daemons have, is a 50% damage reduction. So in terms of weapon selection, given the gaps in attack power between weapons, you're usually better just exploiting the weapon type vulnerability than trying to use a weaker weapon and double-dip on elemental vulnerability as well - unless the stronger weapon has an element that is resisted, in which case step down to the next-strongest weapon that isn't. The light-infused weapons at Maldacio Hunter HQ make this even a bigger deal, so despite the high cost and baller attack power they're only worth using when you're fighting daemons or one the few non-daemons that aren't resistant to light.
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Dec 7, 2016 18:52
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The one where some guy wanted you to get rid of some old traps was the worst, it was a level 15 quest but there were two Coeurls camped out right in the centre and once I just about managed to get rid of those the traps were well hidden and almost impossible to find.
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Dec 7, 2016 18:52
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Deified Data posted:How are you supposed to beat Gladio at chocobo racing? He always has just enough stamina to pull ahead of you in the last stretch. Hit sprint Just before the sprint ends, tap the brake button for a sweet drift that also starts your chocobo stamina regen Repeat until you win. I beat him and Ignis at level 5 using this.
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Dec 7, 2016 18:56
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:The "new character creation" thing is weird as hell - I'm guessing it's something you wouldn't be able to access until postgame when it doesn't really matter, because otherwise how would that even work? Though it would be pretty funny if there's just some random 5th wheel dude hanging around the party who literally never gets brought up in any cutscenes or banter. Grizzled Patriarch posted:The "new character creation" thing is weird as hell - I'm guessing it's something you wouldn't be able to access until postgame when it doesn't really matter, because otherwise how would that even work? Though it would be pretty funny if there's just some random 5th wheel dude hanging around the party who literally never gets brought up in any cutscenes or banter. If that's the case I hope the character's default name is Delta.
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Dec 7, 2016 19:14
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Thundercracker posted:If that's the case I hope the character's default name is Delta.  Also I finally found out how powerful magic is yesterday. I had trouble with the flans because I hadn't gotten the magic power upgrades on the sphere grid and was only using one catalyst. I made sure to rectify that this time, when I took on the gelatin hunt. One quadcast of unicast iii and the battle was over before I was even spotted. 
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holy loving poo poo drat is chapter 13 or whatever the one in zegnautus keep is annoying as all hell. It's like they took every single bad design choice for a dungeon that a rpg can make and crammed it all in one dungeon.
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