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The MSJ posted:New Spider-Man trailer coming, so here is a trailer for that. Armpit webs, going full Ditko
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Dec 7, 2016 17:17
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Terrible Horse posted:Armpit webs, going full Ditko No, they're really loving not. Unless you just mean design. In which case his colors are too desaturated.
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Dec 7, 2016 17:45
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I know this is probably "organic webshooters" territory, but I really don't like that Spider-Man, the perennial "just scraping by" superhero (at least in theory) is getting fed cool poo poo from hyper-capitalist Iron Man.
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Dec 7, 2016 18:06
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You'd think Spidey could earn a good chunk of change by just bringing a donation bowl with him when he saves the streets.
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Dec 7, 2016 18:11
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It's more accurate to the modern day. The lower class are only allowed to elevate themselves on the whims of the wealthy who find them entertaining, and STILL only scrape by. Iron Man needs full time availability for Spider-Man but can only guarantee him 25 hours of work a week and no benefits.
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Dec 7, 2016 18:11
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Electromax posted:You'd think Spidey could earn a good chunk of change by just bringing a donation bowl with him when he saves the streets. This Spidey should have a Patreon Its possible Tony just gives him the good stuff when he needs him. Who knows the timeline because its 20 seconds long, but Peter is both familiar with Happy, and back in his sweatpants suit. Tony might have yanked the Civil War suit back once he didn't need Peter anymore.
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Dec 7, 2016 18:12
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Tony Stark has enough gear and money that the end of Iron Man 3 was him basically throwing out 50 suits of gold-titanium alloy superweapons, and he's meant to be sweating Peter over what looks like an under armour onesie?
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Dec 7, 2016 18:18
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Arriving too late, after the burglar has fled the scene and Uncle Ben is beyond saving, Peter Parker cradles him in time to hear his final words. "Peter... Criminals are a superstitious and cowardly lot. With great power you must become a bat".
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Dec 7, 2016 18:21
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Terrible Horse posted:Its possible Tony just gives him the good stuff when he needs him. Who knows the timeline because its 20 seconds long, but Peter is both familiar with Happy, and back in his sweatpants suit. Tony might have yanked the Civil War suit back once he didn't need Peter anymore. I'm certain that scene is mid-Civil War, the way it's presented is that Pete is seeing the suit for the first time. It looks like Happy goes to pick up Peter for the fight and presents him with the new suit (after some comical confusion where he changes into his dorky suit). I think he's "familiar" with Happy to the extent that Tony probably text him "hey my guy is picking you up" and Happy showed up to get him. EDIT: actually it looks like they're in a hotel so Tony probably put him up somewhere close to the fight
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Dec 7, 2016 18:23
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greatn posted:It's more accurate to the modern day. The lower class are only allowed to elevate themselves on the whims of the wealthy who find them entertaining, and STILL only scrape by. I actually wanted to post something along these lines but it felt too Jacobin. It's true, though. It feels like Marvel is taking their working-class hero and turning him into Elon Musk's protege.
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Dec 7, 2016 18:25
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Also can I ask The gently caress is Peter recording himself without the mask on IN THE SUIT for Will he just not have a secret identity this time around?
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Dec 7, 2016 18:44
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Guy A. Person posted:I'm certain that scene is mid-Civil War, the way it's presented is that Pete is seeing the suit for the first time. It looks like Happy goes to pick up Peter for the fight and presents him with the new suit (after some comical confusion where he changes into his dorky suit). I think he's "familiar" with Happy to the extent that Tony probably text him "hey my guy is picking you up" and Happy showed up to get him.
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Dec 7, 2016 18:52
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True but I don't buy that he went back to his old suit and then freaked out over armpit webs. Also the "minor upgrade" thing seems like snarky Tony Stark language for "I made you an expensive new suit that's not made of sweat pants". I think the webs are either a feature he didn't use in CW or something he webs up on the spot.
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Dec 7, 2016 19:10
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Burkion posted:Also can I ask The whole direction they're going with Tony and Pete in these movies is that the former is out to back the other so that he can also indoctrinate him. The camera in the suit may all be part of some co-ordinated marketing tool.
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Dec 7, 2016 19:30
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Peter Parker hasn't been barely scraping by for a long time now. His dad's the mayor, he was the president of a super-science factory, and I think now he's the headmaster of the X-Men school
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Dec 7, 2016 19:32
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Guy Goodbody posted:Peter Parker hasn't been barely scraping by for a long time now. His dad's the mayor, he was the president of a super-science factory, and I think now he's the headmaster of the X-Men school B-b-butt he's not a mutant!!
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Dec 7, 2016 19:34
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Basically, the whole Favreau connection is that he was the original "indie director" they got to jump start Iron Man, so now with Cop Car-guy at the helm it's gonna be Iron Man 4.
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Dec 7, 2016 19:34
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Why dont they just shoot Spiderman dead? Is he faster than a speeding bullet? I hardly think so. His spider sense wouldn't be able to keep up with a machinegun so unrealistic loving BS
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Dec 7, 2016 19:37
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Guy Goodbody posted:Peter Parker hasn't been barely scraping by for a long time now. His dad's the mayor, he was the president of a super-science factory, and I think now he's the headmaster of the X-Men school You know when he was? When he was a kid in highschool at the start of his career Funny that this is the same set up. But no let's just have Tony invent and give him everything he needs to make sure Peter can stay kid friendly and happy go lucky because who needs depth or just gently caress it Just gently caress it. This movie is going to be a trash fire.
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Dec 7, 2016 19:37
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Faster than a speeding reboot!
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Dec 7, 2016 19:37
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Burkion posted:You know when he was? They already did a movie where Spiderman was a lovely crying high school student, I'm fine with new Spiderman not being a lovely crying high school student again
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Dec 7, 2016 19:39
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 high school kids suck anyway, why do you want anything school related in this movie to begin with
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Dec 7, 2016 19:40
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I want the middle aged dad Spiderman movie, bring back Maguire and forget the rest of this.
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Dec 7, 2016 19:41
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Spider-Man was married to a supermodel, yes, but he was still scraping by in a one bedroom apartment in NY and totally stoked when he found $20 bucks on the street when I read the comics in the 1980s.A True Jar Jar Fan posted:I want the middle aged dad Spiderman movie, bring back Maguire and forget the rest of this. No can do, Slurms. Marvel freaks out whenever his Dad Coefficient goes too high.
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Dec 7, 2016 19:42
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I know this is probably "organic webshooters" territory, but I really don't like that Spider-Man, the perennial "just scraping by" superhero (at least in theory) is getting fed cool poo poo from hyper-capitalist Iron Man. Like all the other Avengers, he's a Stark employee.
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Dec 7, 2016 19:42
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the movie is called homecoming and is centered around him in high school so the movie is doing that.
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Dec 7, 2016 19:43
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Guy Goodbody posted:They already did a movie where Spiderman was a lovely crying high school student, I'm fine with new Spiderman not being a lovely crying high school student again If you're going to evoke Ditko in the imagery wouldn't it make sense to evoke Ditko in the story? No of course it wouldn't because Ditko's style is about as far from what Marvel or Sony wants to do with a super hero property as possible. They want to keep Spider-Man sanitized and kid friendly, despite the fact that he should be a reflection of youth- frustrated, bitter, wanting to change the world for the better but not knowing how to. This was true in the 60s when he was made and it's still true today. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Peter will have a falling out with Tony during the movie because of Tony's shady poo poo. It'd be nice to be wrong and have a good Spider-Man movie again.
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Dec 7, 2016 19:43
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for bein a genius, spiderman is pretty drat bad at getting a job apparently foreverially poor, despite superpowers and superintellect
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Dec 7, 2016 19:44
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Guy Goodbody posted:They already did a movie where Spiderman was a lovely crying high school student, I'm fine with new Spiderman not being a lovely crying high school student again Yeah but the whole stated point of this was that they wanted to do a younger Peter Parker who had to deal with teenager problems to be truer to the original comics, which Marvel is the best at doing. The two previous incarnations were seniors on their way out of high school and you only got some token bullying scenes from the high school setting. Giving him a wealthy financier is about as far from the original comics you can possibly get, why would he worry about bullying when he's an Avenger with Tony Stark mentoring him and lending him money?
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Dec 7, 2016 19:45
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Burkion posted:No of course it wouldn't because Ditko's style is about as far from what Marvel or Sony wants to do with a super hero property as possible. They want to keep Spider-Man sanitized and kid friendly, despite the fact that he should be a reflection of youth- frustrated, bitter, wanting to change the world for the better but not knowing how to. This was true in the 60s when he was made and it's still true today. Sorry, this isn't fun. The new Spider-Man will dab and Snapchat and feel good and save the world, probably from a big blue pillar of light shooting up into the sky. You're going to love it. I said: You Are Going To Love It Zzulu posted:for bein a genius, spiderman is pretty drat bad at getting a job apparently Again, the nature of comic book smarts is that a "pretty good" engineer can make 4 AI-controlled mechanical arms with no external power source, and it barely rates as an invention.
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Dec 7, 2016 19:45
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Burkion posted:If you're going to evoke Ditko in the imagery wouldn't it make sense to evoke Ditko in the story? Spiderman is like 60 years old and has been written by hundreds of different people. Sometimes he's even in space. There's no "should be" about it. You have a Spiderman you like. Great. But Spiderman is large, Spiderman contains multitudes.
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Dec 7, 2016 19:49
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I know this is probably "organic webshooters" territory, but I really don't like that Spider-Man, the perennial "just scraping by" superhero (at least in theory) is getting fed cool poo poo from hyper-capitalist Iron Man. yeah that era in comics where peter was tony's protoge was cool for like half a minute but then spider-man comics ended up really boring until the devil made everyone forget who spider-man was so he could go back to the relatable 'just scraping by' stuff but i dunno maybe kids these days dream less about the freedom of swinging across new york city and more about being groomed by peter thiel
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Dec 7, 2016 19:51
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Guy Goodbody posted:Spiderman is like 60 years old and has been written by hundreds of different people. Sometimes he's even in space. There's no "should be" about it. You have a Spiderman you like. Great. But Spiderman is large, Spiderman contains multitudes. They're the ones bringing it back to his roots. I'm not. They're the ones who keep jerking fans off with Ditko designs without any of Ditko's style. They're the ones making this about kid Peter Parker again. They could make this about Peter in space, they could do any number of things with it. They're not. They're just doing the original stories again but this time with the edges filed off so no one has to feel uncomfortable.
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Dec 7, 2016 19:54
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Zzulu posted:for bein a genius, spiderman is pretty drat bad at getting a job apparently realtalk it would make alot of sense to how spider-man stories tend to go if peter parker had adhd and not in the haha 'distracted by shiny things' tv adhd, the actual 'has hella trouble in school or keeping down a job that utilizes your intelligence' kind boy makes his one nuts scientific innovation(web-slingers) but doesn't do much more science poo poo beyond that because crime-fighting ends up so much more stimulating than being cooped up in a lab
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Dec 7, 2016 19:57
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I will take back every bad thing I've said about the MCU if the new Spider-man movies show Peter growing into a mature and well-adjusted adult with a loving wife and a happy famhahahahaha I need to stop daydreaming!!
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Dec 7, 2016 19:58
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Equeen posted:I will take back every bad thing I've said about the MCU if the new Spider-man movies show Peter growing into a mature and well-adjusted adult with a loving wife and a happy famhahahahaha I need to stop daydreaming!! agreed homecoming would sound way better if his mentor was hawkeye
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Dec 7, 2016 20:00
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Brother Entropy posted:but i dunno maybe kids these days dream less about the freedom of swinging across new york city and more about being groomed by peter thiel Again, a great idea if they had any nuts.
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Dec 7, 2016 20:01
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Brother Entropy posted:but i dunno maybe kids these days dream less about the freedom of swinging across new york city and more about being groomed by peter thiel this spiderman drains the blood of young criminals to stay young and vibrant himself.
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MacheteZombie posted:this spiderman drains the blood of young criminals to stay young and vibrant himself. a sort of black widow, if you will...
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