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So Motor Crush #1 came out today. What's everyone's thoughts? It's certainly way different than what I usually read, but I'm interested to see what happens.
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Is Island worthwhile? From the cover it looks like its another zooniverse issue 
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Wait was that the last issue of Bounty noooooooo
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Synthbuttrange posted:Wait was that the last issue of Bounty noooooooo I thought it was supposed to be 10 issues?
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Synthbuttrange posted:Is Island worthwhile? From the cover it looks like its another zooniverse issue It's just a short Zooniverse story. The issue also has the second part of "Island 3" from last time. And there's some art by Jack Cole but it's a different Jack Cole.
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I am pretty excited that Uber is back. It was mainly just words explaining exactly what the current situation is but I'm fine with that. Looking forward to seeing how this all turns out (my guess? Terribly for absolutely everyone) Also, the first WicDiv proper in ages. I think this is going to be a fun arc and I'm looking forward to seeing how it all turns out (my guess? Terribly for everyone)
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OhFunny posted:So Motor Crush #1 came out today. What's everyone's thoughts? I loved it. The Warriors crossed with Fast and the Furious, sprinkled with near future sci-fi dystopia, illegal drugs (for your motorcycle!), and organized crime. Better than I even hoped.
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krakagar posted:I am pretty excited that Uber is back. It was mainly just words explaining exactly what the current situation is but I'm fine with that. Looking forward to seeing how this all turns out (my guess? Terribly for absolutely everyone) Yeah, that was a lot of words, but it's the introduction to an arc, technically it's a first issue, etc. That said, I liked the Oval Office briefing scenes and how Truman was presented. I'd have liked some Russia in there, but I know the arc isn't focused on that so I doubt we'll be seeing the Eastern Front again any time soon.
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we won't see maria again until issue 8.. other spoilers: * the next issue is quite clearly going to be a hiroshima analogue centred in the us, since gillen is trying to bring home the devastation of the war to americans * the 'invasion' collection will be the conclusion of the story. it won't go past the end of the war. * there'll be one other artist for one arc, but otherwise it will keep the same. * gillen is very proud of issue 2.
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Neurosis posted:we won't see maria again until issue 8.. other spoilers: Er, a couple things there that you're not entirely accurate about : * He won't commit to anything post-war, but also didn't say he wouldn't. He says there might not be much of anything left, and doesn't want to give that eventuality away, one way or the other. * The other artist may end up being the regular artist for the latter half, but he's not sure of it yet. Anyway, really glad to see it back, and I'm looking forward to more.
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Endless Mike posted:Er, a couple things there that you're not entirely accurate about : ''the third arc will be a guest, but if all goes to plan, he'll draw the rest'. implying there's something relatively firmly in place. you're right on the other point though in the context of the point he's trying to make i find it doubtful. Neurosis fucked around with this message at 06:59 on Dec 9, 2016 |
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Dec 9, 2016 06:54
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Oh is Uber: Thing a second part of a series or can it be read standalone?
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Synthbuttrange posted:Oh is Uber: Thing a second part of a series or can it be read standalone? The first issue is a big catch-up issue. Basically on the drink of defeat in 1945 a German Ubermensch project succeeded and turned the war around. The Ubermensch have the same basic set of powers but with different focuses and levels of power. The other major powers also have the technology but are a bit behind and Germany he retaken continental Europe, defeated Britain and made some gains against the Soviets.
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I'd recommend catching up on the original. It's really good if you like grim war stories. Initially I know many found the premise off putting because it seems cliche and goofy, but it's very well executed and much more like alternate history with superpowers than a supes story in ww2.
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I really like Lake of Fire. I'm a huge history nerd so it's awesome to see knights from the albigensian crusade fighting aliens.
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I had to check out uber invasion since you guys brought it up and I'm totally okay with this story, i really need to read the previous stuff now
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Über is so goddamn frustrating. I keep coming back for more, so clearly, I like it. But man is it exhausting to see nazis ending up on top all the time. I wonder if Gillen/Avatarpress are tactful enough NOT to implement Holocaust-imagery in the upcoming series...
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Why would they be tactful? Isn't there already a bunch of fetishization in making leathered-up badass superpowered Nazis? Maybe that's off base. I haven't read it. e: Not to judge. I liked what I played of the last Wolfenstein game which is all Supernazi busting fantasy. M Bison is cool! Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Dec 9, 2016 |
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Yeah, there's some of that. But to be honest, I feel that there's some invisible barrier between the writer of Über and the ones writing the awful Crossed comics, which is just straight up goreporn. There's the sense in Über that it really isn't enjoying itself as much as other Avatar comics do (see: Crossed). I also understand that for the sake of the story, the nazis will need to have the upper hand, to produce drama. But sometimes it simply becomes annoyingly blatant how superior they are in every convievable way. Apparently having suddenly demi-gods at their fingertips made the military planners of Wermacht super geniuses that can masterfully outpace the allies at every step. I almost stopped reading when they added überspies in the mix. Why stop there? Why not make non-germans allergic to über-powers? Ugh. I'll keep reading it, but my semi-communist (yeah no poo poo I'm biased) heart will pout till it's over...and maybe even then!
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the communists have the most powerful uber so YOUR TEAM is doing okay. less so the brits, and it wouldn't shock me if we get to see a fully activated japanese battleship running riot across the pacific/australia. rip mr churchill. though tbh i think the complaint that the nazis having an edge is contrived is misdirected. the edges they've had are explained in a realistic manner through plot. they had access to the core material for making ubers long before any of the other powers - and, hell, the sexy british spy stealing the stuff is itself more contrived than that - and the reason the germans were able to keep an edge technologically has a very plausible in-world explanation.
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if anyone likes the nazis with superpowers in a non-cape type story feel enough i recommend reading the milkweed triptych (novels, not comics), which is a series of three books beginning with bitter seeds. as in uber the nazis develop superpowers, though earlier in the war; to fight them british warlocks are conscripted. it sounds goofy as poo poo but, like uber, it's really not. much more about the sacrifices for a cause and the damage those hard choices can do to someone than goofy genre schlock. surprised the hell out of me how good they were.
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Neurosis posted:the communists have the most powerful uber so YOUR TEAM is doing okay. Gillen himself pointed out that while we look back on the Nazis has having been crushed on all sides, for a good portion of the war, they were winning and seemed almost invincible, and that sense of despair (and resisting it) is what's he's trying to portray. The way people just keep going despite a calamitous series of defeats, despite it being seemingly hopeless. Basically, the series hasn't had its Stalingrad moment yet but it is coming.
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Yeah, throughout the series he's been throwing in bits and piece of the Nazis and their opponents realizing Germany can't win for a number of reasons. Their goal now is just to take as much of the world down with them. Incidentally, this was what the real Nazis did, as well. That said, I have a hard time believing the "there'll be nothing left at the end" bit since the series has been written with historical-sounding narration since the very first issue. I don't feel like Gillen is the type to use that kind of narrative hook without the endgame in mind.
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Also, there was that text that presented the title for this second series as "Invasion", basically framing it all as a series of history book written by someone who clearly lived in a post-world civilised enough to produce highly researched historybooks. Unless it's an alien archeologist, in which case, brilliant and gently caress you Gilleon at the same time.
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I wasn't trying to imply the world will be gone, as Gillen joked, just the series won't go on. That being said a cold war Uber would be interesting.
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BigglesSWE posted:Also, there was that text that presented the title for this second series as "Invasion", basically framing it all as a series of history book written by someone who clearly lived in a post-world civilised enough to produce highly researched historybooks. We learned early on that the Nazis found the (presumably alien) tech that lets them upgrade humans. It wouldn't be a real shock if the omnipotent narrator was an alien race spying on us to see what we'd do with it. Invasion #1 shows it isn't a textbook looking back because it responds to the white house conversation. Link to gillen's tumblr that's referred to above: http://kierongillen.tumblr.com/post/154286303892/dear-mr-gillen-ive-been-doing-a-read-through-of
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Iggles posted:We learned early on that the Nazis found the (presumably alien) tech that lets them upgrade humans. It wouldn't be a real shock if the omnipotent narrator was an alien race spying on us to see what we'd do with it. Invasion #1 shows it isn't a textbook looking back because it responds to the white house conversation. Some good stuff there, thanks! It pleases me to know that them überspies won't show up again. I felt they were too good to be true, and I couldn't see how any side that had a bountyful source of them could ultimately lose.
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For anyone who remembers it, Young Terrorists #2 comes out this week.
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After falling behind on my comics for a few months, I'm gradually making my way through my backlog and I just got caught up with the latest issue of Bitch Planet the other day. As usual, it's still on-point as an allegory, and I'll be interested to see them explore how the transgender inmates fit into the society depicted in the series, as well as the developing friction between them and those inmates who are stand-ins for TERFs. Additionally, the narrative as a whole keeps surprising me, pleasantly, in that I legitimately don't know what direction the story's going to go into. At first I thought I was in for an ongoing series about life in the prison, and then when the Duemila/Megaton sport was introduced, I then thought that would become the crux of the story, and now it seems like it even still might go off in a completely different direction now that they've broached the possibility of the NCs escaping the prison entirely and establishing their own colony on a hostile planet. For those who haven't checked the series out yet, I personally think it's one of the most interesting books on the shelf right now (close second to Saga in my opinion) and I can't recommend it enough. If you're not familiar with the premise, the elevator pitch is that it's about an off-planet prison in a hyper-patriarchal society where "non-compliant" women are incarcerated for offenses ranging from legitimate crimes to petty things like "aesthetic offenses" and "gender deception". It's a smart take on feminist issues that I'm sure would infuriate Gamergaters and anyone who uses "social justice warriors" as a pejorative because it defies all the stereotypes of feminist fiction being preachy, humorless, and overly sensitive -- it strikes a tone that reminds me, in a good way, of Paul Verhoeven RoboCop-style satire, playfully reveling in the tropes of the "women in prison" exploitation genre and not shying away from violence. At times it's kind of eerie how, as a dystopian satire, it still manages to have moments that seem all too familiar and relevant to the real world, such as in the way women moving around in public spaces are made to feel compelled to apologize constantly and needlessly when walking past strangers, or in the paternalistic language that the male characters use that I have often observed in real life, and perhaps may have even used myself in the past when I had less self-awareness. Even though I expect I'll start buying collected editions of this series when they start putting out nice hardcovers, I still make it a point to keep up with the single issues on Comixology because half the value of the book comes from the back matter, ranging from humorous vintage comic book-style ads to the letters section to the guest essays on feminism, representation, and intersectionality. Granted, if you're the kind of person who tends to roll his eyes at the use of those three words, the back matter might be a bit much for you -- admittedly, even as a person who tries to take those issues seriously, the letters can sometimes be a bit much even for me, such as in the most recent letters section's discussion of the increasingly and absurdly long abbreviation that, last I checked, is now up to "LGBTQIAPK" (which I personally think, with the caveat that no part of that abbreviation describes me, we should all just agree to replace with "queer", but that's a discussion for another day). Still, even when the discussion can get a bit too esoteric, academic, or jargon-y for my taste, it's at least always smart, personal, and heartfelt. The point of all of these run-on sentences is that Bitch Planet is good stuff, and I'm in it for the long haul.
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BigglesSWE posted:Some good stuff there, thanks! Well yeah, they had 3 of them, and they're all accounted for by the end of the first volume. One dies in a suicide attack on the breeder reactors for atomic bomb production. One gets captured and presumably eliminated by the British once they finish squeezing every last drop of intel out of him they can manage. Then the last one get killed by, of all people, General Patton. It's kind of weird to have an actual historical figure be catalyst sensitive, but they wrote themselves into a corner there otherwise.
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I went ahead and read uber over the weekend and it's a great book as long as you can tolerate how depressing it is Like i realize she's a Nazi and therefore bad but my feels go out to klaudia Maria is the best though, it's gonna suck when she dies ^^^^ Patton surviving and being crystal sensitive is lame cuz that guy was the loving worst, although this is a world where only the worst possible situation ever occurs so maybe that's the point
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https://twitter.com/jasonlatour/status/808744890192510976
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site posted:I went ahead and read uber over the weekend and it's a great book as long as you can tolerate how depressing it is Truman laments Patton's disposition and the fact he was the most senior military figure left in western Europe. I think Gillen is aware of his flaws. Nonetheless Patton standing in the destroyed room with a cigar in his mouth and an active halo effect after shredding the spy Uber was loving cool despite being cheesy. Re historical figures being uber in the postscript to the issue with Patton Gillen said he knew he was stretching it to have Patton and Turing be ubers, so I doubt there'll be any more. Wondering if there's anything special about Turing or he just did it for improved endurance so he could grind out more time deciphering the script on the alien object.
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site posted:I went ahead and read uber over the weekend and it's a great book as long as you can tolerate how depressing it is The thing about the Uber Battleships is that aside from Siegfried they're at least somewhat sympathetic. In any other timeline they'd live quiet lives as ordinary Germans and then die some time after the war (well Klaudia would probably die in the bombings). This isn't that timeline though. Siegfried is the only outlier, as he unlike the other two is a true dyed in the wool Nazi. He was raised on a harsh ideology of nationalism and antisemitism and clearly bought into it wholesale. The other two, you can tell they don't condone the actions the Reich has taken, I mean one of them murders Hitler! But they, like a lot of real German soldiers, don't see any way out and just keep following orders. So feel free to have the feels for now, just remember that when the end comes, and it will eventually, that their hands are so steeped in blood it would fill an ocean. I do agree that Maria is great, and I don't think things will turn out as well as Stalin thinks they will. Won't be seeing Russia for a few issues though.
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Given Maria is so heavily skewed to halo activation I'd have to think she's a lot more vulnerable if caught unaware than the other battleships. Given how close she's letting the Russian ubers get I could see her being put down by treachery. What Stalin is doing seems rather perilous given the huge asset she is and that, even if she won't follow orders and advance, she's not working against Russian plans. I understand she's more of a political threat to him than a threat to the USSR but it would seem prudent given the huge Nazi advantage in unconcentional forces to keep her around as insurance.
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Connellingus posted:The point of all of these run-on sentences is that Bitch Planet is good stuff, and I'm in it for the long haul. I love it too. I really appreciate all the essays and letters they publish in the back as well.
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