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Policenaut posted:What the gently caress is wrong with Costlemark Tower? That maze is the worst, I ended up just using a guide because you have to not only enter the maze from a specific cube, you also have to take a very specific path through the cubes. Here's the guide I used if you want it, the section for the maze is under How To Get To The Boss http://www.gamersheroes.com/game-guides/final-fantasy-15-dungeon-guide-castlemark-tower/
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ImpAtom posted:Their combat systems are widely praised and are mostly identical to other games in the SMT series which a lot of people play for gameplay so, nah. You're being dumb. Who the hell praises Persona 4 for its combat? El Hefe is still being dumb though.
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Dec 8, 2016 05:30
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Andrast posted:Who the hell praises Persona 4 for its combat? A... lot of people? Almost every positive review for the game both professional and not?
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Dec 8, 2016 05:32
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i roll everything about fusing effective personas into the 'combat' umbrella so like, yeah, persona games have pretty decent combat mechanics with that included.
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Dec 8, 2016 05:36
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I guess I'm just out of touch then since Persona combat is just really really average.
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Dec 8, 2016 05:39
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El Hefe posted:waifu wars is the only thing people care about Persona, dungeons are secondary. Actually my favorite P4 moment is when I got Hassou Tobi.
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Dec 8, 2016 05:41
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Andrast posted:I guess I'm just out of touch then since Persona combat is just really really average. It uses almost the exact same combat system as the bulk of the SMT games which themselves are generally praised for offering fast-paced turn-based combat that offers a ton of flexibility, encourages use of buffs/debuffs/non-combat mechanics, and offers multiple difficulty modes allowing for more punishing or simple gameplay. Generally in terms of well-recieved combat systems the SMT games do better than pretty much any mainline turn-based RPG system on the market (which is admittedly not the highest praise at the moment). They're easy games unless you're a masochist who plays on higher difficult levels but there are extremely few punishing turn-based JRPGs period and the SMT games actually have a reputation for being 'hard' (that is probably ill-deserved but whatevs) for RPGs so while they're easy for people who play a lot of JRPGs they apparently hit the right sweet spot to be considered difficult for the average player. Outside of maybe Bravely Default I can't think of another modern JRPG that has gotten praised for its combat system that isn't an action/pseudo-action game like Tales or FFXV. I guess World of Final Fantasy maybe, or one of the Etrian Odyssey games. (Though the latter are more praised for character customization options.) ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Dec 8, 2016 |
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Dec 8, 2016 05:45
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If you want to go game awardsy, Souls have been called rpgs for years maybe that phone valkyrie profile game.
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Dec 8, 2016 05:50
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Good grief Expericast magic. Just gained five levels from using a few expericast blizzara's and turning in two quests then sleeping in Lestallum. I like this EXP system. e: What do I need to ascend in order to use two items in Elemency?
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Dec 8, 2016 05:52
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Soul Glo posted:Good grief Expericast magic. Just gained five levels from using a few expericast blizzara's and turning in two quests then sleeping in Lestallum. That's weaksauce, son. I fully expect someone to figure out a way to reliably gain 99 levels in chapter 1 or so just by exploiting expcast
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Dec 8, 2016 05:54
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What is Expcast In fact how do you do anything other then fire/blizzard/thunder? Is it a story thing? The only "neat" thing I've found is just if I cram all 3 in a jar I get mystery box potion
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Dec 8, 2016 05:57
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:What is Expcast Use the bottom option to add items. There's no Thunder/Aero or anything like that.
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Dec 8, 2016 05:58
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:What is Expcast So that circle where you select which element to use? The bottom one is for items to use as catalysts that will augment the final spell it crafts.
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Dec 8, 2016 05:58
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Megasabin posted:You are happy with the sidequests? Are you the magical person who absolutely loves Ubisoft open world game design? Ubisoft open world design knows how to let you flow from one objective to another, here you have 5 second pauses after every quest update, turn-in, dialogue, and vehicle interaction
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Dec 8, 2016 06:02
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:What is Expcast The bottom circle lets you add items. Certain items (Rare coins among the most effective) give you the ability to earn exp with a magic cast. Properly used you can trivially gain tens of thousands of experience points per cast.
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Dec 8, 2016 06:03
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Re: "Engage the Empire" let me get this straight... Let me just camp at the conveniently close Haven before I infiltrate the base. Oh? I need to go back to camp and camp again to advance the quest? Hmm. The enemy is far too strong to attack head on! Let's infiltrate...and massacre the entire base anyway? Alright. Ramuh deigns to assist me! Press L2. Hold L2. Press L2. Hold L2 even longer. He finally appears when my party is wiped and Noctis is near death. Was that scripted that way? How do summons work? Really bad quest overall.
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Dec 8, 2016 06:05
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Magic in general is more powerful than it's ever been in the series. Basically get that skill that raises magic by twice the number of levels earned and the one that increases potency by 30, along with upgrading these accordingly. Even difficult enemies like Coeurls and the Catoblepas don't stand a chance against a badass spell.
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Dec 8, 2016 06:05
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Deified Data posted:Re: "Engage the Empire" Summons just take ten billion years to go off, it isn't scripted it's just annoying.
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Dec 8, 2016 06:06
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Deified Data posted:Re: "Engage the Empire" You have to hold L2 for like 5 uninterrupted seconds for it to go off. There's no communication to the player about this fact and the UI doesn't change to acknowledge you pressing L2 or anything. I had to pause the game and look it up to make sure my L2 button hadn't died.
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Dec 8, 2016 06:19
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What separates XV from technically better games for me is that I really, really like the characters. Maybe the Nier comparison is apt
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Dec 8, 2016 06:21
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Ardryn posted:That maze is the worst, I ended up just using a guide because you have to not only enter the maze from a specific cube, you also have to take a very specific path through the cubes. Here's the guide I used if you want it, the section for the maze is under How To Get To The Boss http://www.gamersheroes.com/game-guides/final-fantasy-15-dungeon-guide-castlemark-tower/ Thanks for this!
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Dec 8, 2016 06:24
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Is the King of the Great Escape hunt in Altissia bugged? I literally one or two shot the guy and was like wtf?
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Dec 8, 2016 06:34
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  this Mars DLC is pretty neat
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Dec 8, 2016 06:40
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They really took a page out of FFVIII when designing the level up system, if not as blatantly broken.
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Dec 8, 2016 06:51
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Finished the game and put around 80 hours into it so far, including most side quests and a couple of the post game dungeons. I'm loving it, tho I agree with (almost) all the things that the thread has mentioned as being bad, especially the gaping holes in the nonsensical plot. Might be the first game I platinum, tho I feel like that's mostly down to it being really easy to platinum. A lot of things don't give trophies that I feel would've been trophies/achievements in literally any other game. I'm also kind of a special case because I honest to god never played a single FF game in my life save for the PS4 FFX remake and World of FF (which doesn't really count I think) so make of that what you will. I'll write a more thought out post when I slept some. It's almost 7 in the morning right now so you guys will have to wait for my musings a bit (I'm sure you can't wait). I do have a few questions tho. Firstly, all the people posting about the crazy magic they crafted.. I admittedly have all my guys at level 94 at the moment but even just doing a 99 potency spell and throwing some items in there for experience or multi cast gets me to the 9999 damage limit EASILY and has done so since I was level, I dunno, 60ish maybe? Did you all spend the insane amount of AP to limit break magic or are you just happy about a big potency number and wasting a lot of materials? Secondly, did people really have such a terrible time with chapter 13? I mean I didn't think it was good or anything but it really didn't stand out to me as THE poo poo chapter. All I did was suck the life outta all the lowbie guys and the axemen or whatever that you're supposed to hide from just got sucked into a black hole every time. It takes like 10 seconds for your MP to regenerate at worst. To be fair I think Noctis was already around level 65 at this point so maybe that's why I had such an easy time with it? I'm really kind of surprised it's apparently such a thorn in everyone's side that they want to patch that specifically. Personally I thought it was way more jarring that when you get the prompt that you're leaving the open world for "some time" for the very first time (I forgot the which chapter, maybe 4 or 5) it took all of maybe five minutes before I was right back into open world shenanigans. They do this a couple of times during the game and while I appreciate the heads up the game doesn't really have a "point of no return" so I feel it causes people to panic more than they need to.
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Dec 8, 2016 06:56
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gently caress, I didn't know that I was heading into a chapter break and ended up being forced to cash in 25k of experience at 1.0x instead of 1.5 
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Dec 8, 2016 06:57
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abraxas posted:Secondly, did people really have such a terrible time with chapter 13? I mean I didn't think it was good or anything but it really didn't stand out to me as THE poo poo chapter. All I did was suck the life outta all the lowbie guys and the axemen or whatever that you're supposed to hide from just got sucked into a black hole every time. It takes like 10 seconds for your MP to regenerate at worst. To be fair I think Noctis was already around level 65 at this point so maybe that's why I had such an easy time with it? I'm really kind of surprised it's apparently such a thorn in everyone's side that they want to patch that specifically. It isn't that it is hard. It is that is boring and tedious and incredibly overly-long. It's not at all hard but they cut off most of your gameplay mechanics for it so you're just doing the same poo poo over and over while exploring basically identical hallways. (Which is why I don't know what a patch can do for it.)
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Dec 8, 2016 06:59
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:gently caress, I didn't know that I was heading into a chapter break and ended up being forced to cash in 25k of experience at 1.0x instead of 1.5 Keep multiple saves. Also, I'll ask again: anyone know how to add a second item as catalyst? Saw someone mention it upthread. Do they mean just multiple items of a single kind or multiple unique items as catalysts?
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Dec 8, 2016 06:59
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Soul Glo posted:Keep multiple saves. One of the best and most underrated QOL features is that this game has two auto save files.
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Dec 8, 2016 07:02
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Failboattootoot posted:First off, yes. Everyone should aspire to hit the heights the Witcher 3 does. Like I'm not going to expect it from everyone but I sure as hell am going to expect it from huge developers whose primary focus is making rpg's like Square and Bioware. It's great that the bar has been raised, but just being a well known, big RPG developer doesn't mean they are capable of actually doing it consistently or if ever at all. There is no way in hell the current Bioware for example, will ever hit the incredible heights of the Bloody Baron quest line no matter how many Mass Effects or Dragon Ages they throw out. They simply don't have that caliber of writers or just don't care enough to. I never played any Persona games or FF14 before though, so no comments there. Anyway, I don't mean to sidetrack the conversation. Back to the chocobros! Noirex fucked around with this message at 07:14 on Dec 8, 2016 |
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Dec 8, 2016 07:11
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I'm 13 levels over the story so maybe it was for the best anyway
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Dec 8, 2016 07:14
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El Hefe posted:For real though, Personas have good story but really bad gameplay. Persona 3 and 4 are actually really well-made turn-based RPGs that hit a sweet spot of difficulty between the assfucking nonsense of some of the other SMT games and the FF6 thing where you can just sort of spam your most powerful commands without regard for anything like buffs, status conditions, etc. I know other people have said that but it should be reiterated. The only reasons I can imagine someone not liking their gameplay are if they don't like turn-based games, or if they despise the VN stuff and story so much they can't tolerate it between dungeons. And re: FF15, massively overleveling the story seems important at the end. There's enemies in the final area that are ridiculously hard, so unless you're supposed to just flee from anything I'm not sure how the gently caress you're meant to kill them at level 45 or w/e.
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Dec 8, 2016 07:18
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I'm 13 levels over the story so maybe it was for the best anyway Lol if you aren't at least 20 levels over the story
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Dec 8, 2016 07:19
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Noirex posted:It's great that the bar has been raised, but just being a well known, big RPG developer doesn't mean they are capable of actually doing it consistently or if ever at all. There is no way in hell the current Bioware for example, will ever hit the incredible heights of the Bloody Baron quest line no matter how many Mass Effects or Dragon Ages they throw out. They simply don't have that caliber of writers or just don't care enough to. I never played any Persona games or FF14 before though, so no comments there. Just because the broad majority of "open world RPGs" are actually kind of garbage doesn't mean that they shouldn't be expected not to be garbage. That's sort of the point, the Witcher 3 did it so right that it has essentially shamed everyone else who dares enter the genre in the process. With FFXV being the successor to the biggest JRPG franchise in the U.S. it is not unfair to compare it to a relative newcomer who was one of the most widely praised games in the genre it was itself entering.
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Dec 8, 2016 07:20
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Question: I'm on chapter 10. Is there open world stuff basically done? Do I always have to use umbra to go back in time?
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Dec 8, 2016 07:23
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Rascyc posted:Question: I'm on chapter 10. Yes.
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Dec 8, 2016 07:25
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Man I'm really confused then but I guess it'll sort itself out.
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Dec 8, 2016 07:28
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Rascyc posted:Question: I'm on chapter 10. Yes, but there will be some new content post-game and some other stuff that you probably weren't able to do before unless you were extremely overleveled on purpose. And you can stay back in time for as long as you want, so using the dog isn't as annoying as I thought it was going to be the first time. I was worried it would reset to present day every time I rested or something since you can only use it at a rest point, but it's very unobtrusive.
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Dec 8, 2016 07:31
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These are the items that can create Expericast along with how you get them: Cockatrice Crest - Exp Bonus Level 2 - Cockatrice Drop Fine Crest - Exp Bonus Level 3 - Royalisk Drop Magnificent Crest - Exp Bonus Level 5 - Kingatrice Drop Old Book - Exp Bonus Level 3 Debased Coin - Exp Bonus Level 4 Debased Banknote - Exp Bonus Level 6 Debased Silverpiece - Exp Bonus Level 8 Rare Coin - Exp Bonus Level 12 Arapaima Roe - Exp Bonus Level 30 - Can be bought for 100,000 Gil in Altissia, Won in the Arena for 240,000 medals, or Gladio's tour at Vesperpool that involves fishing (lol) So one bang for the buck way to do this is.. Pick an element plus 8x rare coin to get an Expericast Level 96 3x arapaima roe gets you an Expericast Level 90. Make all your magic then combine these with exp boosters in Altissia. Eat the 100% exp buff Lasagna (8000 Gil), go fight some poo poo and use all your Expericasts, then sleep at the 3x exp hotel (30,000 Gil). air- fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Dec 8, 2016 |
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Ok so does expericast only have an effect on the caster, as it says in the menu? I've already accepted that Noctis is going to be higher level than the rest of the party but I don't want him to be that much higher.
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