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Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

zegermans posted:

"Exit polls say we need to be less elitist"

"gently caress the stats"

"the polls meant nothing all along, free your mind"

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HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
trying to read tea leaves as to what the DNC's strategy going forward is useless right now. everyone's throwing out random thinkpieces and poo poo but we won't really know where things are headed until we get closer to february and Ellison is heading the DNC. if you want to make a difference right now you should be going to your local party meeting and influencing the rebuilding process yourself instead of letting washed up Salon writers do it for you

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Treating the dnc like a unified party is pretty much a mistake by this point so I don't see the reason behind panicking over every rumor and half cocked theory.

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Agean90 posted:

I don't see the reason behind panicking over every rumor and half cocked theory.

I don't think you "get" this thread, and its long pedigree of panicking over every rumor and half cocked theory.

:derp:

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Agean90 posted:

Treating the dnc like a unified party is pretty much a mistake by this point so I don't see the reason behind panicking over every rumor and half cocked theory.
and to the surprise of absolutely nobody but the neoliberal idpol suckers the bankers and tech companies are throwing in their lot in with the GOP already

considering how well pandering to a donor base known for stabbing you in the back and forgetting anyone else exists worked i'd think the people left in the democratic party all might want to change directions!

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
Listen the neoliberals are just lurking in their vegan artisan jamba juice bushes and are just waiting for the perfect time to work with trump / not work with trump / get involved in dem politics again / not get involved in dem politics again

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

Agean90 posted:

Treating the dnc like a unified party is pretty much a mistake by this point so I don't see the reason behind panicking over every rumor and half cocked theory.

i think it's fine to be worried about some things. the chelsea thing is worrying, for instance, because there absolutely would be a lot of capital going into backing her up

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
hillary's gone missing in the wilderness so the hate gets funneled to the daughter who has not made any moves towards any sort of political office

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
keith ellison is going to win the DNC chair and then take off his skin suit to reveal he was actually rahm emmanuel in disguise the whole time

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

HorseRenoir posted:

keith ellison is going to win the DNC chair and then take off his skin suit to reveal he was actually rahm emmanuel in disguise the whole time

impossible because rahm would have broken character and cursed out everybody by now

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Montasque posted:

Dem's should just run Tom Hanks.

id vote for Tom Hanks regardless of his position

Hanks/Wilson 2020

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
pros for rahm:
curses at everyone, everything

cons for rahm:
rahm

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

logikv9 posted:

hillary's gone missing in the wilderness so the hate gets funneled to the daughter who has not made any moves towards any sort of political office

she's slithering

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

HorseRenoir posted:

trying to read tea leaves as to what the DNC's strategy going forward is useless right now. everyone's throwing out random thinkpieces and poo poo but we won't really know where things are headed until we get closer to february and Ellison is heading the DNC. if you want to make a difference right now you should be going to your local party meeting and influencing the rebuilding process yourself instead of letting washed up Salon writers do it for you

he's right, these assholes are just writing a bunch of dumb pieces for their bubbles

which is literally why they lost

its all echo chambers all the way down

gently caress that and go make a difference while they squirm away in their rooms plugging away another dumb article of insignificance

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


I think there are only thing we know for certain: it's highly likely Ellison will be the chair (mostly to mollify the left) and that chaos will reign regardless.

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Lastgirl posted:

he's right, these assholes are just writing a bunch of dumb pieces for their bubbles

which is literally why they lost

its all echo chambers all the way down

gently caress that and go make a difference while they squirm away in their rooms plugging away another dumb article of insignificance

How much of the Huffington Post readership is minorities

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

Agean90 posted:

I think there are only thing we know for certain: it's highly likely Ellison will be the chair (mostly to mollify the left) and that chaos will reign regardless.

actually a new conspiracy theory will come out of left field and all the establishment dems / non-establishment dems will suddenly withdraw their support, all according to keikaku

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

EugeneJ posted:

How much of the Huffington Post readership is minorities
working class minorities: statistically equivalent to 0

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Grondoth posted:

"I don't like Illegal immigration cause it lets companies treat their workers like poo poo" is a surprisingly strong position that can win over lots of people to your side and keep you on the right side of things like xenophobia and racism. By making it clear that your issue is that these people are being paid nothing and companies are reaping the benefits, you refocus the idea that immigrants are taking jobs to the idea that companies are exploiting people and it's taking away jobs. Defenses like "they do the jobs no american wants to" and "they're not taking YOUR job" devalue the work done and seem more concerned with keeping around a source of cheap labor than defending the human rights of fellow human beings.

Unsurprisingly the DNC position on illegal immigration sounds much closer to the bolded portion, then the later.

Venuz Patrol
Mar 27, 2011

Agean90 posted:

I think there are only thing we know for certain: it's highly likely Ellison will be the chair (mostly to mollify the left) and that chaos will reign regardless.

dnc chair is a position with actual responsibilities and authority. if he gets the nod, he'll be doing more than just mollifying the left

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Montasque posted:

"poo poo, got laid off at the plant 4 years back hadn't had a decent job since. Been work'n the warehouse over on Chester street in the days, and on a few nights I clean the floors over at the wallmart."

*pops an oxy and washes it down with coke zero.

I've changed my mind about helping my fellow americans in the rust belt

Homeless Friend has issued a correction as of 01:34 on Dec 9, 2016

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven
They already tried to smear Ellison with linking him to anti-semitism. They will try and derail him again.

As some of you know I dip my toe in the right wing bubble from time to time. The right does not want Ellison. They want the dems to hold tight to the old and the tired. When Pelosi won leadership, they were thrilled.

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Venuz Patrol posted:

dnc chair is a position with actual responsibilities and authority. if he gets the nod, he'll be doing more than just mollifying the left

It's more like the dnc leadership is trying to mollify the left, represented by Ellison. I think Ellison will actually attempt to get poo poo done, and that the dudes putting him in charge are trying to save their asses in the process.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Montasque posted:

They already tried to smear Ellison with linking him to anti-semitism. They will try and derail him again.

As some of you know I dip my toe in the right wing bubble from time to time. The right does not want Ellison. They want the dems to hold tight to the old and the tired. When Pelosi won leadership, they were thrilled.

One of the things that happened today is that Karl loving Rove wrote an op-ed for the WSJ as reported by Fox News Dot Com about how he really wishes Keith Ellison gets the DNC Chair position, and oh please don't throw me in that briar patch

quote:

To their Advent prayer list, Republicans should ask that Rep. Keith Ellison (D., Minn.) is elected the Democratic National Committee’s chairman early next year.

There are two reasons. The first is that Mr. Ellison’s selection would mean the Democratic Party would be led by a left-winger’s left-winger, handing an early assist to the GOP and the Trump administration for the 2018 midterms.

After cataloging every vote cast by every congressman, the nonpartisan National Journal ranks the five-term Minnesota Democrat as among the House’s most left-wing members during his 10 years in Congress, and tied for the most liberal congressman in 2013 , 2011and 2008.

That’s why he went all-out for Sen. Bernie Sanders in the Democratic presidential primary. In return Mr. Ellison earned the backing of the avowed “democratic socialist,” as well as support from Sens. Elizabeth Warren and Harry Reid.

what a crafty, dastardly plan from nefarious puppetmaster Karl Rove, the inventor of the top-secret political technique known as "reverse psychology"

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
no you guys, giving progressives control of the national party is just a smokescreen to mollify the left. the establishment is going to create a secret Super DNC that controls the regular one that will run Martha Coakley for president

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


HorseRenoir posted:

no you guys, giving progressives control of the national party is just a smokescreen to mollify the left. the establishment is going to create a secret Super DNC that controls the regular one that will run Martha Coakley for president

:agreed:

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

loquacius posted:

One of the things that happened today is that Karl loving Rove wrote an op-ed for the WSJ as reported by Fox News Dot Com about how he really wishes Keith Ellison gets the DNC Chair position, and oh please don't throw me in that briar patch


what a crafty, dastardly plan from nefarious puppetmaster Karl Rove, the inventor of the top-secret political technique known as "reverse psychology"

In the word's of President elect Donald J Trump "Karl Rove is a loser!"

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!
honestly tho, has Karl Rove ever been relevant since the 2000s?

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
The DNC are going to let a MUSLIM run their party? Well that's that, I'm definitely not voting for Chelsea Clinton in 2020 now. -Imaginary Trump Voter that exists only in the minds of Third-Way Thinkpiece Thundercunts

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

Lastgirl posted:

honestly tho, has Karl Rove ever been relevant since the 2000s?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TwuR0jCavk

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
I was thinking Dems might have their poo poo together for the next cycle, but then I remembered we're 3 years away from Kanye on a debate stage

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
Can't wait for Kanye to treat the presidential debates as a rap battle and rhyme all his responses/answers.

UHD
Nov 11, 2006


who is the dnc leadership and or establishment

is it aliens

freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

UHD posted:

who is the dnc leadership and or establishment

is it aliens

According to Alex Jones, yeah.

According to me, h*ck yeah.

Serf
May 5, 2011


logikv9 posted:

Listen the neoliberals are just lurking in their vegan artisan jamba juice bushes and are just waiting for the perfect time to work with trump / not work with trump / get involved in dem politics again / not get involved in dem politics again

boom


HorseRenoir posted:

no you guys, giving progressives control of the national party is just a smokescreen to mollify the left. the establishment is going to create a secret Super DNC that controls the regular one that will run Martha Coakley for president

no lies detected

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
Jake Tapper: Mr. West, you said the situation in the Gaza strip was, and I'm quoting here, "all hosed up n' poo poo", can you elaborate on that?
Kanye: Israel? Is it real? Middle eastern kids survivin on banana peels, orange bitchboi aint makin deals, jus tryna steal, n now you know how Yeezy feel.
*crowd goes wild*

Serf
May 5, 2011


https://twitter.com/haircut_hippie/status/806733121630502912

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
you joke but kanye west would own as president

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Ace of Baes posted:

Jake Tapper: Mr. West, you said the situation in the Gaza strip was, and I'm quoting here, "all hosed up n' poo poo", can you elaborate on that?
Kanye: Israel? Is it real? Middle eastern kids survivin on banana peels, orange bitchboi aint makin deals, jus tryna steal, n now you know how Yeezy feel.
*crowd goes wild*

well when u put it like that....

Kayne 2020

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EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Ace of Baes posted:

Jake Tapper: Mr. West, you said the situation in the Gaza strip was, and I'm quoting here, "all hosed up n' poo poo", can you elaborate on that?
Kanye: Israel? Is it real? Middle eastern kids survivin on banana peels, orange bitchboi aint makin deals, jus tryna steal, n now you know how Yeezy feel.
*crowd goes wild*

"Peace in the middle east"

::drops mic::

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