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Wasn't Willa a huge Clinton supporter?
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Dec 9, 2016 16:59
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MizPiz posted:It going to be real loving interesting to see what they can do in six months given how little the Democrats managed to accomplish when they had a super-majority. It's gonna be a loving bloodbath.
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Dec 9, 2016 16:59
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MizPiz posted:It going to be real loving interesting to see what they can do in six months given how little the Democrats managed to accomplish when they had a super-majority. if theres one things the republicans are better at than the dems, its all politics
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Dec 9, 2016 17:01
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:wrong thread Wasn't Goldman Sachs like buddies with Hillary? Wow, they dumped the Dems the instant they lost the election lol I wonder if Hillary is still gonna give them speeches
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Dec 9, 2016 17:01
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Captain_Maclaine posted:"But if people have unlimited access to healthcare, they'll use it all up with unnecessary procedures and have no incentive to not get sick!" - An almost-verbatim quote of something actually said in the D&D libertarian thread. Libertarians are the worst class traitors
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Dec 9, 2016 17:03
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:Wasn't Goldman Sachs like buddies with Hillary? Wow, they dumped the Dems the instant they lost the election lol they donate to both sides for a reason
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Dec 9, 2016 17:04
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Serf posted:Libertarians are the worst class traitors My brother in law is a downtrodden oyster shucker and he's balls to the wall full Ron Paul libertarian.
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Dec 9, 2016 17:05
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:they donate to both sides for a reason And I bet you there'll still be people in these forums arguing we shouldn't purge the finance vampires from the party
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Dec 9, 2016 17:06
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:My brother in law is a downtrodden oyster shucker and he's balls to the wall full Ron Paul libertarian. Temporarily embarrassed millionaires, etc.
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Dec 9, 2016 17:06
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:My brother in law is a downtrodden oyster shucker and he's balls to the wall full Ron Paul libertarian. I mean I get the desire to legalize all drugs, but that's like the one good idea they have
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Dec 9, 2016 17:08
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:Wasn't Goldman Sachs like buddies with Hillary? Wow, they dumped the Dems the instant they lost the election lol You think corporations pick sides? Ahahahahaha
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Dec 9, 2016 17:09
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greatn posted:Wasn't Willa a huge Clinton supporter? No idea, but I think they made some comment about how Hillary's 2008 Healthcare platform was more aggressive towards UHC than Obama's...which may very well have been true.
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Dec 9, 2016 17:09
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Internet Explorer posted:You think corporations pick sides? Ahahahahaha http://www.businessinsider.com/goldman-sachs-lloyd-blankfein-supporting-hillary-clinton-2016-10  I should know better though
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Dec 9, 2016 17:12
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Look, I'm not saying Obama's pursuit of single payer and/or the public option wasn't anemic as gently caress, but don't pretend the blue dogs and their ilk weren't a millstone around the neck of anything even vaguely progressive within the Democratic party back then. Ghouls don't try to do hard things. That's why they eat corpses.
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Dec 9, 2016 17:13
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Aurubin posted:Temporarily embarrassed millionaires, etc. this phrase gets used constantly to put down those lesser than the ones using it , it's fantastic
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Dec 9, 2016 17:22
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mastershakeman posted:this phrase gets used constantly to put down those lesser than the ones using it , it's fantastic most Republican voters have more money than me, am I allowed to call them loving idiots sir
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Dec 9, 2016 17:24
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Aurubin posted:Temporarily embarrassed millionaires, etc. I wonder why the poor would want to see themselves as temporarily suffering, as opposed to permanently stuck in misery while being morally scolded by societal elites. I can't quite figure it out.
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Dec 9, 2016 17:24
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mastershakeman posted:this phrase gets used constantly to put down those lesser than the ones using it , it's fantastic It also conveniently excuses the Democrats from ever trying to create class consciousness, or appeal to poor people. It just can't be done, you see.
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Dec 9, 2016 17:28
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Fidel Cuckstro posted:I wonder why the poor would want to see themselves as temporarily suffering, as opposed to permanently stuck in misery while being morally scolded by societal elites. best to condescend just in case
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Dec 9, 2016 17:29
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Guy Goodbody posted:It also conveniently excuses the Democrats from ever trying to create class consciousness, or appeal to poor people. It just can't be done, you see. No, you see, what we need is more poverty!  
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Dec 9, 2016 17:29
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The more I get to know people, the more clear it becomes that there really are only two sides to this fight, no matter what the issue at hand is it correlates exactly with a simple belief. Those who believe it is good for housing prices to go up (bad people, inludes Obama) and those who believe it should go down (good people) Everything else seems to fall out from that, because it reflects the basic underlying dichotomies that divides our nation - if we suceed, is it good or bad for other people to be able to join us at the top? Is success absolute or relative? Is our worth based on what we have accomplished or who we have surpassed? Any Democrat that supports rising house prices may or not be a racist, but the underlying mentality that makes racism a bad thing runs strong in their blood and they are just as horrible as any racist even if we dont have the loaded words to describe them so effectively, and it should be no surprise so many of their actions seem to support racist institutions even as they claim to fight racism.
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I find it worrying that that "let it spill over into the streets" line is now apparently the Democrat's election strategy.
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mastershakeman posted:this phrase gets used constantly to put down those lesser than the ones using it , it's fantastic The idea is that instead of seizing political and economic power for themselves, people aspire to join the class that is oppressing them. The phrase as I use it is not to be condescending, but rather indicative of how firmly the wool has been pulled over people's eyes. Edit: But if we don't let it get worse then JC can't merge with Helios. Aurubin has issued a correction as of 17:38 on Dec 9, 2016 |
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GlyphGryph posted:The more I get to know people, the more clear it becomes that there really are only two sides to this fight, no matter what the issue at hand is it correlates exactly with a simple belief. 
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Dec 9, 2016 17:40
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Regarding the DNC chair - I wonder if which faction wins is just as important as who it actually is. Establishment may put up someone further left than normal, but it's still the establishments pick and re-cements their control of the party. Ellison represents the progressive wing, and if we want to control the party it's important we get our way in these fights.
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Dec 9, 2016 17:41
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Joementum posted:No sympathy for her campaign staff. None. MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK
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mastershakeman posted:this phrase gets used constantly to put down those lesser than the ones using it , it's fantastic libertarians are subhuman
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Acelerion posted:Regarding the DNC chair - I wonder if which faction wins is just as important as who it actually is. This. Either support Ellison or gtfo of the party.
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Dec 9, 2016 17:44
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Eat the rich, I say.
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Dec 9, 2016 17:45
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:This. Either support Ellison or gtfo of the party.
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Shinjobi posted:Eat the rich, I say. But how are we supposed to eat them and hang them from every lamp post? Typical leftists, flip flopping all over the place!
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GlyphGryph posted:The more I get to know people, the more clear it becomes that there really are only two sides to this fight, no matter what the issue at hand is it correlates exactly with a simple belief. I think you have to be careful with this line of reasoning. Yes, it is another form of the have's versus the have-not's. Another example of people trying to pull up the ladder behind them. But, there are plenty of people who qualify as "not rich" who have purchased houses and are very adversely affected by dropping house prices. If you spent 100k on a house, borrowed 80k of that, and now the house costs 60k you are pretty much hosed. It becomes infinitely harder to find a job, move to take care of a sick family member, get additional credit, or put additional money into home improvements. Housing should be affordable, yes, of course. But saying you're a lovely person if you don't want to lose what can essentially be your life savings overnight doesn't exactly ring true.
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:But how are we supposed to eat them and hang them from every lamp post? You hang them from the posts, then eat them. It's your move. 
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Acelerion posted:Regarding the DNC chair - I wonder if which faction wins is just as important as who it actually is. Yup and the establishment is already "raising questions" about how he's "anti-Semetic" because of decades old "ties" to Farrakhan. Questions! Shadows!
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Internet Explorer posted:I think you have to be careful with this line of reasoning. Yes, it is another form of the have's versus the have-not's. Another example of people trying to pull up the ladder behind them. But, there are plenty of people who qualify as "not rich" who have purchased houses and are very adversely affected by dropping house prices. If you spent 100k on a house, borrowed 80k of that, and now the house costs 60k you are pretty much hosed. It becomes infinitely harder to find a job, move to take care of a sick family member, get additional credit, or put additional money into home improvements. Hot Take, housing is not an investment. If you are going to live somewhere for 5+ years, then the fact that some bank says your house is worth less then you paid for it means fuckall.  My car is now worth less then I paid for it This adversely affects my life somehow.
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Fullhouse posted:TYT did a video on a woke appalachian protesting for $15 the other day and it is very relevant to this thread I think (especially if the neolib brigade comes in to tell everyone how racist poor white people are again)
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:a billion times this, there are a surprising amount of socialist egalitarian rednecks that need to be "signal boosted" like gently caress to fight against the idea of the monolithic "white working class" voting block
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:Hot Take, housing is not an investment. If you are going to live somewhere for 5+ years, then the fact that some bank says your house is worth less then you paid for it means fuckall. the only way you should look at housing as an investment is that when you pay it off you don't owe money for housing expenses anymore and that means you can actually start investing that money into something like you literally lose nothing when your house's value decreases other than the potential to refinance or it's long term potential to sell and if you need to refinance to afford your house that is probably a problem with your decision making process that house/car/etc is an investment poo poo is a baby boomer thing all the way. it's the kind of thing you get into the mentality of when you think it's appropriate to change houses every ten years and cars every two because you've always had money and lived in a society where consumption was possible for you. I buy a car for ten years. I'm 32 and I'm not in a house and I won't be until I'm ready to plant roots somewhere for a long, long, long time. It's dumb to buy a house if you don't plan to stay there as long as possible. Rent a big apartment if you have kids, but the whole point of owning something is that you don't have to pay for it forever. Mirthless has issued a correction as of 17:59 on Dec 9, 2016 |
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:Hot Take, housing is not an investment. If you are going to live somewhere for 5+ years, then the fact that some bank says your house is worth less then you paid for it means fuckall. Please explain how my post implies that it's an investment. Thank you.
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