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CommonShore posted:Ok I just saw the 5-6 regeneration. She's a British actor who, to appeal to what they thought was the PBS audience, I can only assume, they made out to be American, even forcing her to do her horrible, no-good American accent in public appearances. The bad news is that it never improves, not even in Big Finish stories, and it's a huge, huge roadblock for Nicola Bryant, who honestly is a pretty decent performer who was propped up on the screen as a "Something for the Dads and... I guess Americans??"
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Jerusalem posted:They decided to cast a girl from Surrey as an American. An American specifically from BALTIMORE of all places. ....kay. I'm starting to get the sense that I'm in for some weirdness through 6's and 7's runs.
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Dec 8, 2016 06:50
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CommonShore posted:....kay. The first serial of Six is almost universally considered to be one of the worst and I don't disagree. The hosed up thing is that both Colin Baker and Nicola Bryant are actually pretty talented, they're just mostly given trash to work with on television. Early on in my time in these threads, I said that Colin was part of the problem, because I hadn't yet heard him do his take on the character for audio. The Six episodes are, I think, the hardest to get through. There's very little that isn't awkward, both companions make you want to scream in different ways, and it's like they decided to take some of the humor from the Tom Baker years and just make it awkward and insufferable. Once you hit Seven (particularly once Ace comes in), things get a little better, I think.
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Dec 8, 2016 06:54
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Bicyclops posted:even forcing her to do her horrible, no-good American accent in public appearances ...why?
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Dec 8, 2016 07:50
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Big Mean Jerk posted:...why? That way, nobody would discover the horrible secret... ... the whole Baltimore thing was just an act!!! *A Mel-like scream*
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Dec 8, 2016 07:55
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Wheat Loaf posted:Are you saying you don't wish we'd had a series of the Doctor and his evil secret brother the Master adventuring through space and time trying to find their mysterious long-lost father Ulysses? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ4c1X5ene8
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Dec 8, 2016 11:18
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Bicyclops posted:She's a British actor who, to appeal to what they thought was the PBS audience, I can only assume, they made out to be American, even forcing her to do her horrible, no-good American accent in public appearances. The bad news is that it never improves, not even in Big Finish stories, and it's a huge, huge roadblock for Nicola Bryant, who honestly is a pretty decent performer who was propped up on the screen as a "Something for the Dads and... I guess Americans??" If you've ever seen Blackadder's Christmas Carol, that's Nicola Bryant playing Ebeneezer Blackadder's god-daughter Millicent. I'd only seen her in DW so I couldn't believe it either when I found out.
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Dec 8, 2016 12:48
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8pm on Fox Kids, after Vision of Escaflowne, I believe. 
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Bicyclops posted:She's a British actor who, to appeal to what they thought was the PBS audience, I can only assume, they made out to be American, even forcing her to do her horrible, no-good American accent in public appearances. This is one of the most JNT-era things I've ever read.
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Dec 8, 2016 15:02
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Peri never once referenced Old Bay or referred to Baltimore as "Ball-mer." Immersion ruined. 
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Dec 8, 2016 15:04
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all-Rush mixtape posted:On that note, I had an idea for a ratings-grabber once: the Doctor and the Master both regenerate at the same time, and only they know which is which. We spend a whole series with both traveling in the TARDIS, and in the finale they reveal which one is the Doctor. Does it make sense? Not really, but I have to get this idea out there when/if Chibnall steals my idea. Wasn't that the plotline behind that dumb kickstarter thing from a few years ago when they wanted to finance a TV show about the adventures of two Gallifreyan teens, one who would be the Doctor and the other the Master but we'd never know who would become which character? I think Chang Lee was going to be in it (then again he seems to jump on every ill-advised bandwagon)...
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Dec 8, 2016 17:52
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Oh wow, yeah I'd forgotten about that. Wild Endeavour: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/573935592/who-is-who-a-wild-endeavour-the-pilot-episode
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Dec 8, 2016 20:44
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The_Doctor posted:Oh wow, yeah I'd forgotten about that. Christ I forgot all about this, it was one of the stupidest things I'd ever seen and from memory they never answered the one question that immediately jumped to almost everybody's heads - "If this isn't a con*, how are you going to make this without the BBC stomping your faces in?" Also didn't their previous "successful" Kickstarter to launch a TARDIS satellite never actually get delivered on? * And that was one gigantic "if". Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Dec 8, 2016 |
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Dec 8, 2016 22:34
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Shocked it didn't get C&D'd mid-campaign honestly. Wow. And yes that's a fundamentally stupid idea. Wouldn't you'd need both actors to look like a young William Hartnell for it to work at all?
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Dec 8, 2016 22:48
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I guarantee you the Indian actor would have been the Doctor.
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Dec 8, 2016 22:58
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The_Doctor posted:I guarantee you the Indian actor would have been the Doctor. "Ok so you remember how Romana was able to change her appearance at will that one time? Well what if the Doctor did it to when he found the [insert here] of Rassilon and-" I bet they would've made Susan not his granddaughter too.
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Dec 8, 2016 23:14
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Bicyclops posted:The first serial of Six is almost universally considered to be one of the worst and I don't disagree. The hosed up thing is that both Colin Baker and Nicola Bryant are actually pretty talented, they're just mostly given trash to work with on television. Early on in my time in these threads, I said that Colin was part of the problem, because I hadn't yet heard him do his take on the character for audio. The Six episodes are, I think, the hardest to get through. There's very little that isn't awkward, both companions make you want to scream in different ways, and it's like they decided to take some of the humor from the Tom Baker years and just make it awkward and insufferable. I still can't get my head around the cognitive dissonance involved in going from Androzani Episode 4 to Twin Dilemma Episode 1. Has there ever been a more vast difference in quality between two consecutive episodes of a TV show, ever? It's like going from Aliens to Space Mutiny.or something.
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Dec 8, 2016 23:49
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No no no, this is the real version. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMpf1D3YohU
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Dec 8, 2016 23:53
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I've been going through the series again and reading the excellent write-ups by J-Ru. Just wanted to say thanks again for sharing your excellent work. I'm trying to get my friend into the series and I've promised him some good reading when he gets into it.
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Davros1 posted:I was terrified that the TVM was going to be something along the of Virgin's NAs, so I was greatly relieved that it was actually good! If a series had been made along the lines of the NAs, every episode would be full of incredibly dated cyberpunk cliches, and every third or fourth one would be good but probably not quite as good when revisited twenty years later. It has to be said, for all their attempts at edginess and dubiously "adult" material, none of the NAs are as remotely embarrassing as Torchwood. Apart from the ones written by John Peel. LordZoric posted:I never knew those existed thankfully. I've been watching PopArena's reviews of them and The first couple of years of NAs were really rough. No-one quite knew what age range to pitch them at (Children? Adults? Young Adults? Man-Children?), so tonally they're all over the shop. There's a few that are obviously just re-purposed TV ideas, but then a couple of them (I'm looking at you Peel, you dirty old man) feature an overtly-sexualised version of Ace(who is still supposed to be a teenager at this point), presented in a way that suggests the writers in question are typing her scenes one-handed. I do wonder if the decision to age-up the character was because the editors were aware of how potentially dodgy some of the stuff being done with her was. Paul Cornell's first couple of books set the bar really high, but it took a while for the quality of the rest to catch up. Maelstache fucked around with this message at 01:11 on Dec 9, 2016 |
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Dec 9, 2016 00:22
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That Ulysses' opening brought me back to my childhood watching stuff like Galaxy Rangers and Sabre Rider and the Star Sheriffs (in the sky!) Spikeguy posted:I've been going through the series again and reading the excellent write-ups by J-Ru. Just wanted to say thanks again for sharing your excellent work. I'm trying to get my friend into the series and I've promised him some good reading when he gets into it. Well thanks  Keep in mind though they were written months or years after initial airing so I do bring up a number of "future" events/moments that might spoil somebody on future episodes they haven't seen!
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Dec 9, 2016 01:00
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Jerusalem posted:That Ulysses' opening brought me back to my childhood watching stuff like Galaxy Rangers and Sabre Rider and the Star Sheriffs (in the sky!) No MCOG? For shame
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Dec 9, 2016 01:21
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Maelstache posted:Paul Cornell's first couple of books set the bar really high, but it took a while for the quality of the rest to catch up. And that was his first professionally-published, wasn't it? I think he'd had something publisher as the winning entry to a BBC writing contest, but aside from that, his NA books were the first "proper" things he'd done.
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Wheat Loaf posted:And that was his first professionally-published, wasn't it? I think he'd had something publisher as the winning entry to a BBC writing contest, but aside from that, his NA books were the first "proper" things he'd done. And much like 50 Shades they were reworked fanfiction
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Dec 9, 2016 01:23
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MrL_JaKiri posted:No MCOG? For shame What about Spartakus and the Sun Beneath the Sea?
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Dec 9, 2016 01:29
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Wheat Loaf posted:And that was his first professionally-published, wasn't it? I think he'd had something publisher as the winning entry to a BBC writing contest, but aside from that, his NA books were the first "proper" things he'd done. He'd had some short prose fiction published in DWM, but yeah. It hasn't aged perfectly (it is very much a "I've got to include everything I've ever wanted to write about" first novel) but Revelation was the first to establish you could pretty much do anything in the context of a DW novel, you didn't just have to produce extended pastiches of TV stories.
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Dec 9, 2016 01:58
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MrL_JaKiri posted:No MCOG? For shame That was one of my favorite shows as a kid and then my mother decided the whole family should go out and have a wonderful day at the beach and form long lasting memories that would warm our hearts for decades to come instead of getting to see the final episode  It's all easily accessible now, I should probably rewatch it all and see the final episode for the first time again!
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Dec 9, 2016 02:04
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Jerusalem posted:That was one of my favorite shows as a kid and then my mother decided the whole family should go out and have a wonderful day at the beach and form long lasting memories that would warm our hearts for decades to come instead of getting to see the final episode Do you actually remember anything that happened that day, though? Because I can't remember poo poo about the family dinner I went to instead of seeing Lady in the Fireplace. And I don't even remember what event made me miss The Stolen Earth.
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Dec 9, 2016 02:25
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Doctor Who is the one show my entire family agrees is exempt from the "wait to watch it with all of us" rule.
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Dec 9, 2016 03:36
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Is anybody reading the Third Doctor miniseries from Titan Comics? The final-panel reveal of Issue #3 is absurd and phenomenal and I cannot wait to see where this is going. We thought we were seeing a 2nd/3rd Doctor team up...but its actually Ramon Salamander!
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Dec 9, 2016 04:52
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Holy poo poo you guys weren't kidding about The Twin Dilemma. When one or two people onscreen seem bad, maybe they're bad actors. When literally everyone on screen seems bad, it's a bad director. I've listened to a couple of Colin Baker (+ Alex Kingston) audios and there's basically no comparison. He's far more mellow and sensitive in the ones I've checked out.
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Cleretic posted:Do you actually remember anything that happened that day, though? Because I can't remember poo poo about the family dinner I went to instead of seeing Lady in the Fireplace. And I don't even remember what event made me miss The Stolen Earth. We swam in the ocean , skimmed sand dollars, buried ourselves in the sand, and then we made filled rolls and ate them up on the grass. Also our dog was there and she went nuts just hoofing it down the beach as fast as she possibly could  Plus we got to get takeout burgers on the way home  CommonShore posted:I've listened to a couple of Colin Baker (+ Alex Kingston) audios and there's basically no comparison. He's far more mellow and sensitive in the ones I've checked out. Big Finish was such a redemption for Colin Baker, because he got to demonstrate just how good of a Doctor he could have been if the show hadn't had EVERYTHING going against it at the time.
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Dec 9, 2016 05:34
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Maelstache posted:The first couple of years of NAs were really rough. No-one quite knew what age range to pitch them at (Children? Adults? Young Adults? Man-Children?), so tonally they're all over the shop. There's a few that are obviously just re-purposed TV ideas, but then a couple of them (I'm looking at you Peel, you dirty old man) feature an overtly-sexualised version of Ace(who is still supposed to be a teenager at this point), presented in a way that suggests the writers in question are typing her scenes one-handed. I do wonder if the decision to age-up the character was because the editors were aware of how potentially dodgy some of the stuff being done with her was. My first exposure to stuff with the NA tone was Shadow of the Scourge, which tried to emulate the tone of those books. I greatly disliked it and have never given it a re-listen. And I re-listened to Minuet in Hell. Cornell is great. I'm a big fan of Bernice as a character and even if her Big Finish range can veer into some  directions I've really enjoyed it. I'm she won the "new companion contest" for the NAs.
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Dec 9, 2016 14:53
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This weekend's Big Finish sale is on UNIT stuff; includes the old stuff with the Brig, Dominion, and the new series.
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Dec 9, 2016 15:01
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Found on Twitter...
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Dec 9, 2016 18:13
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CobiWann posted:Found on Twitter... Seems about right.
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Dec 9, 2016 18:30
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At least he's dedicated to equality. Exterminating absolutely everyone regardless of species, gender, race, sexual orientation, etc is equality, right? 
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Dec 9, 2016 19:09
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He just needs to come up with a snazzy new name for the Dalek extermination ideology. Something with "alt" in front of it.
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Dec 9, 2016 19:30
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Bicyclops posted:Seems about right. Stop reminding me. In brighter news, I'm having the most fun doing DWSS this year out of all the people I'm shopping for, mostly because I got someone with very similar interests. So I get to shop for myself without feeling like I'm selfishly spending money. What did you guys think of UNIT: Silenced? I thought it was a pretty solid use of the villains, though it kinda made The Doctor look like a real prick for not bothering to leave a "Oh btw there were these guys that make you forget they exist..." post it note somewhere at UNIT HQ.
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Bicyclops posted:He just needs to come up with a snazzy new name for the Dalek extermination ideology. Something with "alt" in front of it. They should all get those snappy uniforms back so we can see clearly exactly who they are. 
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