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meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

angryrobots posted:

I had to Google it also.

Racism is rampant in sc, but not in Nazi flavor.

You know, maybe I live in an insulated / enlightened area. We've got three black families in my 12-house cul de sac. Don't really give a poo poo. One of them could move their loving car off the street, but I couldn't care less about their skin color.

But I just got a call from my dad, who moved here a few years back from Eastern Ohio. He had just had a call from his old neighbor. Now over there they all have land, dad had about 40 acres (lol, no mule), and the neighbor's place was about a half-mile away through the woods. So this neighbor got a new neighbor on the other side of his property, some family from Louisiana. Does where they came from matter? I don't know. Am I projecting racism upon them due to their previous location? Nope, they did it to themselves.

So old neighbor has a 16 year old daughter, who has a boyfriend who he carefully described as "not white." She brought him to the house and her dad took this "not white" kid deer hunting. He put the kid in a tree stand about 100 yards away from where he was. On his property, but near his neighbor's property. Well, the neighbor saw and came out and told the kid that the kid was "putting his property at risk" and that he "wasn't anything but a friend of the family." Who the gently caress says and does poo poo like that now? It's not 50 years ago, you backwoods knucklefucks.

So the kid got upset, the girl's dad was upset, my dad had to talk this guy down from killing the stupid racist fucks...

Christ, there's enough reasons to hate people, come up with something a little bit more sophisticated than "ur skin is a different color" in 2016.



Anyway... on the 1488 front, I don't think there's a broad conspiracy of racists using 1448 as their pins, and if they are, they're an insignificant data point. Here's an analysis of 4 digit pins, and there's no heat around 1448, at all: http://www.datagenetics.com/blog/september32012/

The operative chart (in a left two numbers/right two numbers format) from that page is here:

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Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

Seminal Flu posted:

Who the gently caress says and does poo poo like that now? It's not 50 years ago, you backwoods knucklefucks.

It may have escaped your attention but there has been a major uptick in racist/sexist/homophobic/xenophobic attacks since the election.

Elect someone who checks all of those boxes and like-minded people will think its acceptable/safe to be out and proud.

Geoj fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Dec 9, 2016

mariooncrack
Dec 27, 2008
^ South eastern Ohio by chance?

I see more confederate flags in Ohio than you would expect.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

mariooncrack posted:

^ South eastern Ohio by chance?

Really I'd expect such behavior in any part of the state that isn't a major population center.

Siochain
May 24, 2005

"can they get rid of any humans who are fans of shitheads like Kanye West, 50 Cent, or any other piece of crap "artist" who thinks they're all that?

And also get rid of anyone who has posted retarded shit on the internet."


Fermented Tinal posted:

^^^ That's my general warm-up procedure.

I'm not sure how a remote starter would work with the pullknob used to turn off the fuel pump, or the glowplugs.

I'd consider a generator but I'd have to duck out several hours before the end of shift and my job is busy enough that I likely wouldn't be able to find the time to do it. Really, what I'm hoping for is like a 100W 12v oil pan heater that I can use a timer or thermostat with. I've got room for a 2nd battery under the hood, but we're talking a drain of about 8Ah, which shouldn't overtax a cold battery for two or three hours of use.

Hook the generator up to a command start? :P

I know guys up north run the gens at times, I'm just not sure "how" they work it. Maybe something that starts/runs for 15 minutes an hour or according to some schedule.

Car warmup chat - depends on temp. -15 to -20C or so, a few minutes at most. Colder than that? However long it takes. -55C? About 20 minutes or more. 5 minutes, and then I'll go sit in it and idle it higher. Keep running it until trying to shift doesn't feel like cutting frozen peanut butter with a plastic spork.

Fermented Tinal
Aug 25, 2005

by Pragmatica

Siochain posted:

Hook the generator up to a command start? :P

This is starting to sound expensive enough to compete with: http://www.eberspaecher-na.com/products/fuel-operated-heaters/product-selection/coolant-heaters/hydronic-s3.html

E: Yeah, I can't afford a remote-start generator, and this is the cheapest I can find locally: https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.firman-4000-watt-65-hp-remote-start-gas-powered-portable-generator-and-wheel-kit.1000837137.html

Fermented Tinal fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Dec 9, 2016

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

In brighter news -- DirecTV Now and Apple TV is a pretty sweet setup and I may be cutting the cord in the next couple months.

Turbo Fondant
Oct 25, 2010

Fermented Tinal posted:

^^^ That's my general warm-up procedure.

I'm not sure how a remote starter would work with the pullknob used to turn off the fuel pump, or the glowplugs.

What sort of injection pump(s) do you have? Anything that existed into the late 90s should have some sort of conversion from cable to solenoid fuel cut available.
Also might be worth looking around heavy truck wreckers, a used Webasto or Espar can't be that much money and they're fairly serviceable.

Turbo Fondant fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Dec 9, 2016

beep-beep car is go
Apr 11, 2005

I can just eyeball this, right?



Seminal Flu posted:

In brighter news -- DirecTV Now and Apple TV is a pretty sweet setup and I may be cutting the cord in the next couple months.

We've been cord cut for more than a year, relying on Netflix, Amazon and Hulu and this DirectTV now deal was great. We did the pre-pay for three months and get an Apple TV deal, and it's really filled the "HGTV, History Channel and Food Network" shaped hole in our hearts.

keykey
Mar 28, 2003

     

Seminal Flu posted:

In brighter news -- DirecTV Now and Apple TV is a pretty sweet setup and I may be cutting the cord in the next couple months.

I just checked out the site but it's more or less sign up and we'll show you what it costs which irks me. Through other sites I see that it's $35 now for 60+ channels, but what I want to know is how much do they nickel and dime for premium channels such as hbo/showtime/etc?

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

InitialDave posted:

No, an apologist is someone who attempts to defend something that happens, which in this case would be people using 1488 as a Nazi reference.

We're saying it's entirely possible to be a coincidence, and the 1488 mean nothing at all in that particular instance, unless you have a further reason to suspect otherwise.

Remember when Top Gear had people in Argentina loving rioting in the street over a number plate? Yeah.

If a skinhead has it tattooed on his face, fair enough, that's probably a solid example. But some random guy just having it as his PIN doesn't have to mean anything unless you want it to, and at that point it veers into numerology.

The big difference, though, is that license plates are automatically generated (unless you get a custom plate, but those are obvious and I don't think they are allowed to follow the normal numbering convention anyway) and PINs are chosen by the user. People almost universally choose a number that is meaningful to them, so they can remember it easily. Which is why a crazy amount of PINs start with 19. I'd be suspicious of anyone who basically broadcasts to the world that "1488" is a meaningful, memorable number to them.

scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe

Raluek posted:

The big difference, though, is that license plates are automatically generated (unless you get a custom plate, but those are obvious and I don't think they are allowed to follow the normal numbering convention anyway) and PINs are chosen by the user. People almost universally choose a number that is meaningful to them, so they can remember it easily. Which is why a crazy amount of PINs start with 19. I'd be suspicious of anyone who basically broadcasts to the world that "1488" is a meaningful, memorable number to them.
My PIN was assigned to me by my credit card company and I never bothered to change it :shrug:

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
All of my PINs have been assigned.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Raluek posted:

The big difference, though, is that license plates are automatically generated (unless you get a custom plate, but those are obvious and I don't think they are allowed to follow the normal numbering convention anyway) and PINs are chosen by the user. People almost universally choose a number that is meaningful to them, so they can remember it easily. Which is why a crazy amount of PINs start with 19. I'd be suspicious of anyone who basically broadcasts to the world that "1488" is a meaningful, memorable number to them.

How often do you "broadcast" your PIN?

On the other hand how are there this many people in this world that think, "What should I use for my PIN? Oh, right, 14 words, Heil Hitler!", jesus christ Earth let's get it together for once.

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

Metal Geir Skogul posted:

All of my PINs have been assigned.

That's weird, I think I remember getting a temporary one and having to change it the first time I put it in an ATM. But that was long enough ago that I could be misremembering.

Pham Nuwen posted:

How often do you "broadcast" your PIN?

On the other hand how are there this many people in this world that think, "What should I use for my PIN? Oh, right, 14 words, Heil Hitler!", jesus christ Earth let's get it together for once.

Well, for example, when you make a big show of saying your PIN out loud like homeboy did here in the Oreillys. Also, I can't count the number of times I have had to intentionally look away from someone entering their PIN because they were making no effort to hide it from everyone standing in line.

Galler
Jan 28, 2008


Metal Geir Skogul posted:

All of my PINs have been assigned.

Same. I could change mine but :effort:

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

Raluek posted:

The big difference, though, is that license plates are automatically generated (unless you get a custom plate, but those are obvious and I don't think they are allowed to follow the normal numbering convention anyway) and PINs are chosen by the user. People almost universally choose a number that is meaningful to them, so they can remember it easily. Which is why a crazy amount of PINs start with 19. I'd be suspicious of anyone who basically broadcasts to the world that "1488" is a meaningful, memorable number to them.

Maybe someone's kid was born on 1/4/88, and that's how they remember the PIN?

Ether Frenzy
Dec 22, 2006




Nap Ghost
Heh yes when I see people using the number 420 I totally jump through 420 hoops to figure out how the [whatever] assigned it to them and how it's totally within the norms of statistical likelihood, too.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
Just bought a box of car speakers for £10 - as well as a Kenwood 12" and 10" sub, there were two 6.5" speakers from an old Pioneer "reference" set. Nice.

beep-beep car is go posted:

We've been cord cut for more than a year, relying on Netflix, Amazon and Hulu and this DirectTV now deal was great. We did the pre-pay for three months and get an Apple TV deal, and it's really filled the "HGTV, History Channel and Food Network" shaped hole in our hearts.
Yep, no TV for me (and so no TV licence in the UK). I don't miss it at all, I can get basically all the content I want through online services.

Raluek posted:

The big difference, though, is that license plates are automatically generated (unless you get a custom plate, but those are obvious and I don't think they are allowed to follow the normal numbering convention anyway) and PINs are chosen by the user.
No, the plate analogy is quite right. You get a random sequence as per whatever the rules to generate them are, but you can choose to change it if you wish. PINs are no different.

I will repeat: It's entirely possible to be a coincidence, and the 1488 mean nothing at all in that particular instance, unless you have a further reason to suspect otherwise.

And even then, you see a Mk1 Civic with "1488" as part of the plate. Is :hitler: driving, or is is in reference to the engine size? Someone who knows of the neo-nazi reference, but nothing about old Hondas, will say the former. Someone who knows old Hondas, but nothing about neo-nazis, will say the latter. Someone who knows nothing about either will not even notice.

It's about perception, and your expectations or heightened awareness to any given factor.

Let's say the guy was wearing a shirt that said "Unite Ireland" and his PIN had been 8373. Would that be worthy of comment?

InitialDave fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Dec 9, 2016

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Ether Frenzy posted:

Heh yes when I see people using the number 420 I totally jump through 420 hoops to figure out how the [whatever] assigned it to them and how it's totally within the norms of statistical likelihood, too.

I always assume they're using it as 4/20, hitler's birthday, because in today's society everybody is literally hitler.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

InitialDave posted:

Let's say the guy was wearing a shirt that said "Unite Ireland" and his PIN had been 8373. Would that be worthy of comment?

Is there some significance between the number "8373" and the Irish Republican movement?

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

keykey posted:

I just checked out the site but it's more or less sign up and we'll show you what it costs which irks me. Through other sites I see that it's $35 now for 60+ channels, but what I want to know is how much do they nickel and dime for premium channels such as hbo/showtime/etc?

HBO and Showtime are $5/month additional.

Here's the link for the $35 introductory offer and free Apple TV: https://directvnow.com/appletv#slide1

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

Geoj posted:

Is there some significance between the number "8373" and the Irish Republican movement?
No.

But if you know that 8th of March 1973 is the date of the first IRA carbombs in London, you might decide there is, and that's why the man has it as his PIN. Because your perception is influenced by that knowledge.

Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot

rdb posted:

Toyotas ATF WS is another story. It's poo poo and shouldn't be considered lifetime. By 60k in both the Prius and Tundra it was ready for a change and toyota makes it hard to do.

I believe ATF-WS also gets pumped through the MGs both in the front and the back transaxle. I plan on doing a replacement of the fluid around 50,000 miles or wait until 60,000 when the warranty is out. I don't want the MG's stator insulation to break down, that's 750 volts. I believe the manual calls out replacement of that fluid at 100,000 miles, but a toasted MG is gonna be a hell of a lot more expensive. I'll probably have an independent shop swap the fluid one MG/transaxle at a time or see how much the dealership wants for the service.

I also didn't realize it but on some of those MG's the motor has one rotor and stator, and the generator has a smaller, completely separate rotor and stator on the same shaft. :psyduck:

Three-Phase fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Dec 10, 2016

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

InitialDave posted:

No.

But if you know that 8th of March 1973 is the date of the first IRA carbombs in London, you might decide there is, and that's why the man has it as his PIN. Because your perception is influenced by that knowledge.

In your scenario is the guy wearing the "Unite Ireland" shirt standing there and loudly repeating his PIN so anyone in earshot can hear it?

Cop Porn Popper posted:

I might start drinking to forget that one of my customers today had 1488 as the pin on the card they used. He kept repeating it out loud...

Mulva
Sep 13, 2011
It's about time for my once per decade ban for being a consistently terrible poster.

bandman posted:

Typical lowest temps we see in Atlanta are about -10C. Worst I've seen was -17C (or 1*F) in January 2014. We don't know what to do when it gets that drat cold.

It was -37C with the windchill on Valentine's Day in Boston this year, which is just -36F because science stops giving a gently caress when it gets that cold. People that complain when it gets to be 10F or something just fill me with disgust and condescension. That is shorts weather, put out a chair and get a tan. Hell grab some handfuls of snow and rub it on your genitals, that is party weather.

And I am not bitter at all that we aren't looking likely to get a bunch of snow again for Christmas this year.

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
I was out hiking in 13f with a bit of wind last night, and yeah, uh, that's still pretty cold. I need to get some big puffy mittens, was fine except for the finger tips.

Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot
I forgot to mention the pre-collision system went off for the first time today when someone did a hard-brake-and-turn-into-Joanne-Fabrics maneuver. I hear this loud beeping and my console screen goes bright red with a white "BRAKE!" flashing in the middle. It was a no-issue and disappeared, I have it set for high sensitivity.

I wouldn't be surprised if future cars have something like the voice annunciation system that airplanes have.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNwd1qXt3RI

I just want something that'll go "SCHOOL ZONE AHEAD, CHECK SPEED", "PERSON APPROACHING" (like a carjacking), "CAMERA AHEAD", and "BLINDSPOT!" (if I hit my turn signal when there's a vehicle in the corresponding blindspot). The Nav will already announce congestion ahead.

Three-Phase fucked around with this message at 00:49 on Dec 10, 2016

angryrobots
Mar 31, 2005

Mulva posted:

It was -37C with the windchill on Valentine's Day in Boston this year, which is just -36F because science stops giving a gently caress when it gets that cold. People that complain when it gets to be 10F or something just fill me with disgust and condescension. That is shorts weather, put out a chair and get a tan. Hell grab some handfuls of snow and rub it on your genitals, that is party weather.
See I thought windchill was something invented by we winter-sissy southerners, or so I've been told by yankees*. Kind of funny seeing a Bostonian quote windchill numbers.

*only yankees who, generally speaking, only do recreational activities outside. I've never had this sort of annoying conversation with someone whose everyday job is outside. There is a usually a mutual respect among those who are at the mercy of the elements.

Fermented Tinal
Aug 25, 2005

by Pragmatica

Shrugs Not Drugs posted:

What sort of injection pump(s) do you have? Anything that existed into the late 90s should have some sort of conversion from cable to solenoid fuel cut available.
Also might be worth looking around heavy truck wreckers, a used Webasto or Espar can't be that much money and they're fairly serviceable.

Pump would've originally been opened/closed by a solenoid, the Napa Auto Pro that did the engine swap converted it to a pullknob. I could get a replacement solenoid and wire up a rocker switch like most people who do this swap, but I like the knob.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

Geoj posted:

In your scenario is the guy wearing the "Unite Ireland" shirt standing there and loudly repeating his PIN so anyone in earshot can hear it?
Actually, he's doing riverdance down the aisles of the store and quoting Father Ted.

Mulva
Sep 13, 2011
It's about time for my once per decade ban for being a consistently terrible poster.

angryrobots posted:

See I thought windchill was something invented by we winter-sissy southerners, or so I've been told by yankees*. Kind of funny seeing a Bostonian quote windchill numbers.

*only yankees who, generally speaking, only do recreational activities outside. I've never had this sort of annoying conversation with someone whose everyday job is outside. There is a usually a mutual respect among those who are at the mercy of the elements.

Man, people who laugh at windchill are asking for frostbite. "Wind chill" increases the rate heat is lost, and increases the difficulty in staying warm. When it's already so cold you are getting some dead homeless people, adding a perceived -20 degrees on that of that is bad.

Especially if your rear end is working near the water. That's the point where you know that nature isn't ambivalent to our presence, but actively malicious and probably insane.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

коммунизм хранится в яичках

Mulva posted:

Man, people who laugh at windchill are asking for frostbite. "Wind chill" increases the rate heat is lost, and increases the difficulty in staying warm. When it's already so cold you are getting some dead homeless people, adding a perceived -20 degrees on that of that is bad.

Especially if your rear end is working near the water. That's the point where you know that nature isn't ambivalent to our presence, but actively malicious and probably insane.

It's not bad until the ducks start freezing to the pond.

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

You'll be sorry you made fun of me when Daddy Donald jails all my posting enemies!

Raluek posted:

The big difference, though, is that license plates are automatically generated (unless you get a custom plate, but those are obvious and I don't think they are allowed to follow the normal numbering convention anyway) and PINs are chosen by the user. People almost universally choose a number that is meaningful to them, so they can remember it easily. Which is why a crazy amount of PINs start with 19. I'd be suspicious of anyone who basically broadcasts to the world that "1488" is a meaningful, memorable number to them.
My plate and my PINs have all been assigned. Who changes their PIN? Is that even possible? I've never looked.

iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

🤗YOU'RE WELCOME🤗
Bringing your dog to work makes it so much less annoying.

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

ilkhan posted:

My plate and my PINs have all been assigned. Who changes their PIN? Is that even possible? I've never looked.

I've changed mine before. I thought I remembered that they forced a change on first use, but since everyone else here has had a different experience I must have misremembered that. Probably a parent strongly encouraged setting it to something different. So I changed mine to something memorable when I got my debit card at 18, then a few years later realized that I had used a number that people close to me could guess, so I changed it to a longer, less guessable one. 4-digit PINs are for chumps. I think it's just a button somewhere in the ATM's software.

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002
feigned ignorance about the ability to set your own debit pin :chanpop:

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

If you set your own pin keep in mind they leaked a whole bunch a while back. When you set one make sure it's not on that list, any thieves will almost certainly try one off there first.

Turbo Fondant
Oct 25, 2010

Mines not on there :dukedog:

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Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

Shrugs Not Drugs posted:

Mines not on there :dukedog:

Same, shameful for assuming that people are incapable of remembering more than 4 sequential digits.

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