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pichupal posted:Not many good physical hastegas coming up. Onion Gauntlets will probably show up in a festival banner and Shout will show up in the Tyro Selections, but other then that, Cid (VII) gets a Shout clone in Angeal 1 - not bad if you're also chasing stuff for a Wind team. Cid or Thancred (Thancred less so) make the most sense of this list, but they're both in awkward spots. Not sure I want to chase Cid so close to Fest, though Zack's BSB would be a good draw to go with Luneth BSB and Cloud OSB that I already own. The big problem is that I already have Cloud OSB and Crystal Cross from the banner. The risk of dupes on top of proximity to fest make this a bit sketchy. Saying that, there's a certain attraction to Banner 1 to flesh out the kernels of Windteam, like you say. Like I say though; there's two dupes on the banner and XIV/Fest are right on the doorstep. I'll need to think about that one. Grizzled Patriarch posted:There's Zack's Apocalypse, which is pretty underwhelming compared to the other options, but if you just want a native hastega it'll do. VII banners seem to pop up a lot, at least. Hastega for the sake of Hastega isn't so necessary when I have Paine's SSB for it, so it's more about finding a good fit. Tyro2 is a constant option for me, since I have neither Wall nor Shout, but I have 4 relics off the banner now - Squall BSB, Excalibur (I got this as a 1/11 on my last run at it), Ragnarok VII and Lust Dagger. Finding the spare mythril to take another run at it when there's so many great limited-time banners right now is hard 
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Ragnarok VII and Lust Dagger are not on Tyro 2. Maybe you're thinking of other things that you do have that are on there.
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KataraniSword posted:* In particular, it never disappoints us, the goons reading the thread. Your lack of disappointment is not guaranteed. ** Pulling with money may result in multiple versions of an undesired relic. May cause rage and impotence. Do not continue pulling if your bank account is depleted.
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Might be worth just waiting to see how the fest Banners turn out. They could slip in Minwu's BSB or Onion BSB for Hastegas. Tyro 3 should have Shout, Sheepsong and SG, which is also a great Banner to choose from if you have Cloud/Bartz/Squall/Rinoa OSB and want an En-Element to go with it. It was 3 events after the XIV Banners in Japan, although there's no guarantee it'll happen around the same time here.
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Cape Cod Crab Chip posted:Ragnarok VII and Lust Dagger are not on Tyro 2. Maybe you're thinking of other things that you do have that are on there.  Are the in-app relic lists incorrect? I did think it was weird to see Rikku's Dagger, Lust Dagger and Ragnarok VII at the bottom.
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KataraniSword posted:* In particular, it never disappoints us, the goons reading the thread. Your lack of disappointment is not guaranteed. LornMarkus posted:
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I think you're looking at the list of all possible relics, off-banner included. If you keep scrolling, you should load another batch. I don't have access to my device right now but I promise you those two are not on-banner there, Tyro 2 is Squall BSB, Gilgamesh BSB, Terra BSB, Vanille SSB, Bartz SSB, Shout and SG.
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Wilekat posted:
It's the start of listing every single SB in the order of 6* weapons -> daggers -> swords -> ect...., just because there's a non-zero chance you can draw any item on a banner. Ragnarok (VII) was probably the only 6* when that Banner came out. pichupal fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Dec 9, 2016 |
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Cape Cod Crab Chip posted:I think you're looking at the list of all possible relics, off-banner included. If you keep scrolling, you should load another batch. I don't have access to my device right now but I promise you those two are not on-banner there, Tyro 2 is Squall BSB, Gilgamesh BSB, Terra BSB, Vanille SSB, Bartz SSB, Shout and SG. pichupal posted:It's the start of listing every single SB on the order of 6* weapons -> daggers -> swords -> ect...., just because there's a non-zero chance you can draw any item on a banner. Oh this makes so much more sense. Thanks!
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Though the Lucky Draws are special in that they DON'T have the extended lists of 5*+ relics on them, so you're guaranteed to at least not get any rainbow orbs with off-banner items.
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Schwartzcough posted:100 gems got me the stupid Priest's Miter. I'm 3/44 on 100 gem pulls in the last several months, and the ones I do pull are usually generics/off banner. Cool. Hey don't talk poo poo on the priest miter
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superloosegoose posted:Hey don't talk poo poo on the priest miter Why not? It has bad stats and a useless resistance (minor KO resistance is pointless) and no SB and it's a bad relic and is bad.
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Snazzy Frocks posted:yeah do it Being paranoid I did a 1 buck draw and it only spat out a four-tier sword. Eh, I'll wait to get paid first. Also, I still can't hone Flare Strike. 
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How long does Mug Bloodlust's buff/debuff last for, the same duration as steal power?
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Schwartzcough posted:Why not? It has bad stats and a useless resistance (minor KO resistance is pointless) and no SB and it's a bad relic and is bad. Minor KO resistance also affects gravity, which is the real thing KO resistance is desirable for. I ain't keeping around these Momento Rings for nothing.  (But also I don't remember if the resistance on status effects stacks so you might be right on it not being useful)
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EscortMission posted:Minor KO resistance also affects gravity, which is the real thing KO resistance is desirable for. I ain't keeping around these Momento Rings for nothing. They (i.e. status resists) don't stack iirc, and Gravity-type attacks have a 303% hit rate which means you require moderate or major KO resist to get it under 100%. (FFRK math is weird).
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Finished up the phase 4 MP stuff and now I have 49 mythril. Wondering if I'll be able to get 100 by the Alphinaud banner.
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Is there any benefit to doing the MP battles actually MP, besides reduced stamina cost? Sometimes I just can't be bothered to deal with online people and just solo it - I'm not having any problems difficulty-wise, so just checking that I'm not missing anything otherwise.
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I should have 300 by alphinaud/osbfest, budgeting 200 between them, and then a pull for Raines BSB/Hope OSB and a pull on TG Cid. And then I will be broke but hopefully very powerful??
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kalensc posted:They (i.e. status resists) don't stack iirc, and Gravity-type attacks have a 303% hit rate which means you require moderate or major KO resist to get it under 100%. (FFRK math is weird). Neither of these statements are true. Status resistances stack, it's only elemental resistances from gear which don't. Gravity attacks have a wide range of hit rates, from 3000% to <20%. Minor resistance on its own will help against the lower hit chance stuff and stacked with moderate or major resistance or combined with Affliction Break it'll help against anything but the 3000% hit rate stuff or auto-hit attacks (which, when they're Instant KO resistance, tend to be gimmick moves anyway, either "you hosed the fight up" or "d220 Multiplayer Yunalesca is a bitch"). In particular, Torment Gi Nattak, which is coming up within a couple of months, has some fairly inaccurate gravity type attacks which get spammed over and over in the fight by the Soul Fires.
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Twelve by Pies posted:Finished up the phase 4 MP stuff and now I have 49 mythril. Wondering if I'll be able to get 100 by the Alphinaud banner. You will.
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Ok, but gravity attacks with accuracy less than 303% are super super rare. And in crazy nightmare 200+ difficulty dungeons you probably don't want to be bringing an off-realm hat with 66 defense.
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Schwartzcough posted:Ok, but gravity attacks with accuracy less than 303% are super super rare. And in crazy nightmare 200+ difficulty dungeons you probably don't want to be bringing an off-realm hat with 66 defense. Even 303% gravity attacks are reduced to a state where they can actually miss a reasonable percentage of the time if you bring Affliction Break (100 base/2 = 50; 50/2 = 25; 25*3+3 = 78% hit rate or roughly 1 in 5 missing). And you absolutely want to bring as much gravity resistance as you can fit to Gi Nattak because he loving loves him some gravity. You can almost entirely ignore the Soul Fires with a decent level of gravity resistance because their only attack while Possessing is a ~40% hit rate gravity attack, and Gi Nattak himself uses an AOE gravity every 3rd turn or so. And his offense is basically entirely magical, so a hat is very appropriate.
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bilperkins2 posted:Is there any benefit to doing the MP battles actually MP, besides reduced stamina cost? Sometimes I just can't be bothered to deal with online people and just solo it - I'm not having any problems difficulty-wise, so just checking that I'm not missing anything otherwise. I've been unable to solo some of the 160 difficulty ones coming through jp, like Yunalesca in the most recent X event, just because of the shear amount of damage coming in. Your mileage may vary depending on synergy gear though.
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Twelve by Pies posted:Finished up the phase 4 MP stuff and now I have 49 mythril. Wondering if I'll be able to get 100 by the Alphinaud banner. I would suspect that should be pretty easy if you don't be weak like me and pull on things. Two more events to go before XIV, plus whatever mythril handouts accompany this Fest and the Christmas period.
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bilperkins2 posted:Is there any benefit to doing the MP battles actually MP, besides reduced stamina cost? Sometimes I just can't be bothered to deal with online people and just solo it - I'm not having any problems difficulty-wise, so just checking that I'm not missing anything otherwise. Aren't they making more difficult stages, too? I've been appreciative of the MP aspect because now I can help some of my buddies that aren't as advanced as I am get some more goodies. Also it's pretty fun.
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I usually do the pre-Ultimate raids in single player then do the Ultimates in multiplayer, just because they tend to be a lot easier with 3 extra party members and access to relics I don't have personally.
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Beasteh posted:You will. How much are we likely to get? I had some number jotted down but I scrapped them when I was still expecting another two and half months before the banner and realized it seemed more like only a month and a half tops. Cosmic Afro posted:Aren't they making more difficult stages, too? I've been appreciative of the MP aspect because now I can help some of my buddies that aren't as advanced as I am get some more goodies. They go as high as 220 that I've seen, with those giving 4* motes. So far Yunalesca was kind of garbage (you need a couple of Magic Blinks, basically) and I haven't yet tried Caignazzo 220. The XII 220 from a couple weeks back wasn't too bad though, did beat that one. LornMarkus fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Dec 10, 2016 |
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bilperkins2 posted:Is there any benefit to doing the MP battles actually MP, besides reduced stamina cost? Sometimes I just can't be bothered to deal with online people and just solo it - I'm not having any problems difficulty-wise, so just checking that I'm not missing anything otherwise. The way I see it doing the first 4 multiplayer levels as a hanger on is like 25 stamina for 4 mythril which seems a good ROI for me
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Alphinaud banner is at the end of the month, IIRC. 13 mythril per week from login bonuses, 10 mythril per week from events, 20 mythril from the Orbfest from stage clears, plus any goodies from Santa Mog or additional raid stages opening up (I don't remember what the first event with a multiplayer component built in is, but when that comes we'll go up to 13 mythril per event). So, if it's two events away, that's 26 mythril from logins, 20 more from events, and possibly some Christmas goodies, for 46+ mythril.
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Zurai posted:Alphinaud banner is at the end of the month, IIRC. 13 mythril per week from login bonuses, 10 mythril per week from events, 20 mythril from the Orbfest from stage clears, plus any goodies from Santa Mog or additional raid stages opening up (I don't remember what the first event with a multiplayer component built in is, but when that comes we'll go up to 13 mythril per event). So, if it's two events away, that's 26 mythril from logins, 20 more from events, and possibly some Christmas goodies, for 46+ mythril. Well poo poo, now I really regret that garbage pull on the VI banner cause that means I'm only gonna be able to manage 1 pull for OSB fest. Oh well, such is life.
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Zurai posted:Alphinaud banner is at the end of the month, IIRC. 13 mythril per week from login bonuses, 10 mythril per week from events, 20 mythril from the Orbfest from stage clears, plus any goodies from Santa Mog or additional raid stages opening up (I don't remember what the first event with a multiplayer component built in is, but when that comes we'll go up to 13 mythril per event). So, if it's two events away, that's 26 mythril from logins, 20 more from events, and possibly some Christmas goodies, for 46+ mythril. On the flipside, it's also a logical place for them to throw banners in order to drain mythril away. They might not do it, but my gut instinct is that they know drat well to set those banner festivals alongside the most hyped banners; they did it with Ramza, after all.
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Shock Trooper posted:I'm assuming it's some fuckup related to this that'll fix itself on its own soon. Update: Sure enough, waiting it out magically fixed it. shrug
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pichupal posted:Not many good physical hastegas coming up. Onion Gauntlets will probably show up in a festival banner and Shout will show up in the Tyro Selections, but other then that, Cid (VII) gets a Shout clone in Angeal 1 - not bad if you're also chasing stuff for a Wind team. Eiko's Hamelin also returns on Zidane OSB 2 - Crit+50% is very nice for physical parties.
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pichupal posted:Not many good physical hastegas coming up. Onion Gauntlets will probably show up in a festival banner and Shout will show up in the Tyro Selections, but other then that, Cid (VII) gets a Shout clone in Angeal 1 - not bad if you're also chasing stuff for a Wind team.
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Panic! at Nabisco posted:Missing a notable one here: Papalymo's Leylines on XIV 1, which is actually a superior Sheepsong that replaces Sheepsong's major regen with party fast casting. Leylines is good but ultimately inferior to Braska's SSB2 if you have any form of Hastega (which considering OK RWs will be often). The good news is that since it's on XIV 1, you'll probably get it if you're going hard on the banner.
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Zurai posted:Neither of these statements are true. Ah whoops, hopefully my ignorance helped inform some other people. 
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I knew I would've missed something  . I was waffling between making a list of just Hastegas on physical characters/white mages or just all hastegas. Papalymo's SSB is really good and it's already on a pretty stacked banner. I'm honestly surprised they didn't stick both of his new relics on Banner 2, especially when banner 1 is almost entirely support and banner 2 is almost entirely DPS focused, but it just makes choosing easier.
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ApplesandOranges posted:Leylines is good but ultimately inferior to Braska's SSB2 if you have any form of Hastega (which considering OK RWs will be often). The good news is that since it's on XIV 1, you'll probably get it if you're going hard on the banner. Honestly, if you're looking for non-Hastega magic boosts, Edward's SSB is probably the premier one. 30% MAG/MND (so it helps your heals as well) and Quickcast 3. There's also Yuna's BSB2, which is the same 30% MAG/MND buff and no extras, but does give Yuna a way to both AOE attack and AOE heal simultaneously. And, of course, Cid Raines has his BSB, which is party 30% MAG/DEF and an absurd DPS machine. Really, as long as you have 2 or more stacking 30% MAG boosts, anything is good.
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