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Cnut the Great
Mar 30, 2014
I see prejudice against Robot-Americans is at an all-time high in the wake of Trump's election.

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the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

Not a Step posted:

Didn't Clinton and the DNC explicitly back Trump in the primaries because they thought he would be an easier candidate to take down?

Sounds like the DNC rigged the election for Trump as much as the Russians did. Arrest em for treason!

every RNC candidate also did this to bernie by talking nice about him every chance they got, it's not exactly a difficult psyop

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Baloogan posted:

poo poo, sorry, please don't probate me. Didn't realize this was D&D. I'll see myself out.

lol check out this loser beggin for mercy in D&D!!!

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe

Homeless Friend posted:

lol check out this loser beggin for mercy in D&D!!!

i get monthers now in D&D for the most innocuous poo poo ever

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

But I thought concerned citizen said this was one of the STRENGTHS of her campaign? Idk who to believe anymore.

as i mentioned before, they did a base strategy. the article is wrong in saying that they only did recruitment - they did a very large amount of voter registration as well, which exceeded obama 2012's level. as i mentioned before, hfa did not believe in persuasion and this was a crucial mistake. i work in field, i have read the same literature as hfa's field leadership, and i know why they thought that field persuasion didn't work. and in fact, they weren't really entirely wrong to believe that until about july '16. prior to that, persuasion was on thin ice as a tactic since the literature backing up its effectiveness had been found to be fraudulent. and then there were a pair of studies showing that persuasion efforts for obama had failed to yield additional votes. but a pile of studies landed around then showing huge benefits if it's done in the correct way, but hfa ignored these as their strategy was already in motion. again, as i've said before this was a very, very big strategic error. not just from the votes they could have won but didn't, but also because it would have validated their statistical models.

when i mention the strengths of the campaign, i mean that the work done to carry out the orders given were very good. and that indicates a strong campaign culture that was dedicated to electing the candidate rather than advancing careers or preening egos. very hard to build in a few months. that said, there were problems and i think the program was not as god as obama 2012 overall, which itself was good mostly because of the sheer amount of money spent on it.

the article errs in saying that you need to build some sort of relationship with voters to gotv them or whatever, that contradicts what we actually know from decades of experience about what works in gotv.

Concerned Citizen has issued a correction as of 17:32 on Dec 10, 2016

Terror Sweat
Mar 15, 2009

SimonCat posted:

Why won't she just go away? Is her ego that big that she just can't let it go?

its hard to tell because she was running against trump but she is pretty narcissistic

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

You don't think you can run the whole country and have a meager opinion of yourself

Studio
Jan 15, 2008



etalian posted:

Going after wall street would have helped but Obama/dems didn't want to turn on their finance sector donors.


https://twitter.com/HRCintheWild/status/805607887913545728
Quote seems familiar...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H5uWRjFsGc

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Baloogan posted:

i get monthers now in D&D for the most innocuous poo poo ever
1 month probation for violating neoliberal tenets, cishet racsexist scum

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

1 month probation for violating neoliberal tenets, cishet racsexist scum
nothing less than art
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3765883&pagenumber=21&perpage=40#post458175213

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them

Baloogan posted:

i get monthers now in D&D for the most innocuous poo poo ever

*choses to post in D&D*

*whines about it*

fuckin lol

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Baloogan posted:

i get monthers now in D&D for the most innocuous poo poo ever

D&D is the worst place on the site to debate and discuss stuff

its name should be "you can talk about current events here as long as you don't make waves"

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014



suck my dick nerd

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Fidel Cuckstro posted:

(the only time Teddy wasn't jizzing over the presidency like it was the throne of God in America was when Wilson wasn't getting America in to WWI fast enough)

yeah he totally didn't piss all over Taft in 1912

oh wait

Studio
Jan 15, 2008



Sheng-ji Yang posted:

suck my dick nerd

I don't really want to, but I'm a Democrat so I'll suck your dick but praise myself for not fondling your balls.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Baloogan posted:

i get monthers now in D&D for the most innocuous poo poo ever

reading that thread, lol at whiskey juvenile et al denying obama is a fuckup for letting this happen by being afraid of being seen as partisan

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

in games that would be a proper response to such a serious thread

in d&d everyone is huffing :gas:

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


i havent read any of the us politics threads in d&d since the election, are they still terrible hillarymen or have they finally become woke

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
I like d&d sometimes, but I can't post there. c-spam is like custom precision built exactly what i want out of a politics forum so i have zero grounds to complain about d&d lol!

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Sheng-ji Yang posted:

i havent read any of the us politics threads in d&d since the election, are they still terrible hillarymen or have they finally become woke

seems to be the same as before, half racist and half hillarymen

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Sheng-ji Yang posted:

i havent read any of the us politics threads in d&d since the election, are they still terrible hillarymen or have they finally become woke
socialists post in there every now and then but the peanut gallery still makes 5 pages of "RACSEXIST TRANSGAY SCUM" when someone suggests to defend unions, or when people get a real discussion going when the gbs racists are asleep with only maybe one 3 day probation happening

and the socialist gets probated

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Concerned Citizen posted:


when i mention the strengths of the campaign, i mean that the work done to carry out the orders given were very good. and that indicates a strong campaign culture that was dedicated to electing the candidate rather than advancing careers or preening egos.

Hahaha the entire campaign was built to preen the egos of Mook, podesta, and Clinton. How the gently caress else do you explain the giant dumpster fire that was election night?

Not to mention poo poo like the DNC Fight Song (lmao) the pantsuit flashmobs, the Chillary coozies, the $5000 plate fundraisers, everything else she did instead of campaigning in the rust belt.

They thought by acting like rich elites they were gonna get republican voters. It worked for a few republican politicians (who were already rich elites) but the vast majority of Americans saw right through the lack of authenticity.

Dear little Abuela lost to a loving groping, rapist, idiot. And she raised and spent like 15x the amount that the other team did.

They got rich as gently caress from running the worst campaign in history. Idk why you're still trying to defend these elitist wealthy jack offs.

Tatsuta Age
Apr 21, 2005

so good at being in trouble


Wear the hat baloogan

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

yeah he totally didn't piss all over Taft in 1912

oh wait

The only moral presidency is mine!

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
We thought Donald had run the biggest grifting operation in existence by skimming like 30% off the top but it turned out the entire Hillary op was exclusively built from the ground up to grift rich Hollywood liberals and turn it into salaries for the most worthless hacks in existence. Bill Mitchell had more political acumen than them.

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

Hahaha the entire campaign was built to preen the egos of Mook, podesta, and Clinton. How the gently caress else do you explain the giant dumpster fire that was election night?

the campaign was relatively ego-free. i guess you could say all political campaigns ever preen the ego of their candidate since it's literally their purpose. just compare it to the 2008 run - no leaks, no interdepartmental warfare, no game of thrones type poo poo. i have worked on campaigns with 20-30 staff that had more drama than the entirety of hfa put together.

quote:

Not to mention poo poo like the DNC Fight Song (lmao) the pantsuit flashmobs, the Chillary coozies, the $5000 plate fundraisers, everything else she did instead of campaigning in the rust belt.

the campaign didn't do pantsuit flash mobs and everything else raised money and was more important than rallies in ohio. that's still the case, because rallies aren't actually that useful and never will be.

quote:

They got rich as gently caress from running the worst campaign in history. Idk why you're still trying to defend these elitist wealthy jack offs.

who among them is wealthy? you don't know what you're talking about.

the only person who made real money from the campaign was joel benenson, as he got a lot of polling money and did a ton of media purchases for the campaign through his firm. even then, he made less than campaigns with equivalent positions made in other cycles because he earned a fixed fee. podesta was unpaid and mook was salaried at $120k or so. it's actually notable how little money anyone actually made off clinton's campaign, especially in comparison to other presidential runs. hell, tad devine made off like a loving bandit with millions of dollars from bernie sanders because he negotiated to make a % of all media buys.

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SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

Homeless Friend posted:

We thought Donald had run the biggest grifting operation in existence by skimming like 30% off the top but it turned out the entire Hillary op was exclusively built from the ground up to grift rich Hollywood liberals and turn it into salaries for the most worthless hacks in existence. Bill Mitchell had more political acumen than them.

I have never been more owned in my life trusting in my party and their canidate.
To quote Dante: okay this time, let's make sure this never happens again.

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Concerned Citizen posted:

mook was salaried at $120k or so. it's actually notable how little money anyone actually made off clinton's campaign, especially in comparison to other presidential runs. hell, tad devine made off like a loving bandit with millions of dollars from bernie sanders because he negotiated to make a % of all media buys.

How the gently caress could anyone claim that $120k in salary for running a losing campaign isn't a large amount of money?

What world do we live in?

crazy cloud
Nov 7, 2012

by Cyrano4747
Lipstick Apathy

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

How the gently caress could anyone claim that $120k in salary for running a losing campaign isn't a large amount of money?

What world do we live in?

neoliberalism is a mental illness

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Homeless Friend posted:

We thought Donald had run the biggest grifting operation in existence by skimming like 30% off the top but it turned out the entire Hillary op was exclusively built from the ground up to grift rich Hollywood liberals and turn it into salaries for the most worthless hacks in existence. Bill Mitchell had more political acumen than them.

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Homeless Friend posted:

We thought Donald had run the biggest grifting operation in existence by skimming like 30% off the top but it turned out the entire Hillary op was exclusively built from the ground up to grift rich Hollywood liberals and turn it into salaries for the most worthless hacks in existence. Bill Mitchell had more political acumen than them.
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white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

crazy cloud posted:

neoliberalism is a mental illness

Dude made more in 9 months creating a bullshit algorithm and naming it Ada (after a female mathematician :downs: ) than most working class people make in 4 years. And now people like Mook and podesta are gonna get tax cuts and their investments in private prisons and weapons manufacturers are gonna loving soar.

What an ego free campaign tho! :allears:

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Homeless Friend posted:

We thought Donald had run the biggest grifting operation in existence by skimming like 30% off the top but it turned out the entire Hillary op was exclusively built from the ground up to grift rich Hollywood liberals and turn it into salaries for the most worthless hacks in existence. Bill Mitchell had more political acumen than them.

She spent 1.3 billion dollars vs. Donald's 765 million dollars.

Maybe money can't buy elections?

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
Are they finished counting all of the votes casted during this election yet?

crazy cloud
Nov 7, 2012

by Cyrano4747
Lipstick Apathy

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

Dude made more in 9 months creating a bullshit algorithm and naming it Ada (after a female mathematician :downs: ) than most working class people make in 4 years. And now people like Mook and podesta are gonna get tax cuts and their investments in private prisons and weapons manufacturers are gonna loving soar.

What an ego free campaign tho! :allears:

lmao insane that people didn't turn out to vote did they not hear that donalb trimp BAD???¿¡¿!,

Tatsuta Age
Apr 21, 2005

so good at being in trouble


Tight Booty Shorts posted:

Dude made more in 9 months creating a bullshit algorithm and naming it Ada (after a female mathematician :downs: ) than most working class people make in 4 years. And now people like Mook and podesta are gonna get tax cuts and their investments in private prisons and weapons manufacturers are gonna loving soar.

What an ego free campaign tho! :allears:

Please don't sneak diss ada Lovelace in your posts

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Tatsuta Age posted:

Please don't sneak diss ada Lovelace in your posts

:smugjones: dude, cmon I'm not dissing anyone except the idiots in the poo poo campaign.

Serf
May 5, 2011


Tight Booty Shorts posted:

How the gently caress could anyone claim that $120k in salary for running a losing campaign isn't a large amount of money?

What world do we live in?

someone with no sense of perspective

Tatsuta Age
Apr 21, 2005

so good at being in trouble


Tight Booty Shorts posted:

:smugjones: dude, cmon I'm not dissing anyone except the idiots in the poo poo campaign.

Carry on then gentle goon

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sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

etalian posted:

She spent 1.3 billion dollars vs. Donald's 765 million dollars.

Maybe money can't buy elections?

I mean, Trump's money is still far more than 99% of America will ever see let alone possess, so yes it can, there's just a point of diminishing returns.

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