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Grey Fox
Jan 5, 2004

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Casting notice for a Cadillac TV ad that was seeking “ALT-RIGHT (NEO-NAZI)” people (Twitter)

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What’s perhaps most terrifying about the ad (and weakens the credibility that this was some mistake) was that the agency understood it would be controversial. The listing explained that the commercial would feature people from “all walks of life in America” and that they’d be “standing together as a union.” The listing went on to say that, “This is not meant to be offensive in any way. Just a representation of all sides.”
http://gizmodo.com/cadillac-cancels-neo-nazi-ad-after-online-outrage-1789969103

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Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007


lmao normalization is a hell of a drug

devtesla
Jan 2, 2012


Grimey Drawer
It sounds like the only person who got fired for this was the least responsible for whatever the gently caress happened.

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
im curious what the alt right looks like in the public's imagination

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 17 hours!
Soiled Meat
im curious what the alt right is

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe

steinrokkan posted:

im curious what the alt right is

If you aren't joking

http://www.dailystormer.com/a-normies-guide-to-the-alt-right/

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!



Wait is that a genuine, proud neo-nazi site trying to portray itself as hip and intellectual? poo poo is just getting weird now.

e:

quote:

The reason that all of these various movements came together and developed the same basic values is not that they were built on something else. For the most part, it was people honestly searching for conclusions as to what was going on in the world in the information age. The reason these different groups ended up coming to the same conclusions about the Jews, race, feminism and the rest of it was that they had unlimited access to information, and open minds, so they all happened upon the objective truth.

or... its satire, a liberal site pretending to be a nazi one? plz

Communist Thoughts has issued a correction as of 18:07 on Dec 11, 2016

AceRimmer
Mar 18, 2009
Based on informal polling of "educated" people, they have no idea how to connect a cartoon frog they never heard of to a nazi movement :derp:

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe

nopantsjack posted:

Wait is that a genuine, proud neo-nazi site trying to portray itself as hip and intellectual? poo poo is just getting weird now.

e:


or... its satire, a liberal site pretending to be a nazi one? plz

its unironic, and by that I mean its sincere

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Some of the ways the movement presents itself can be confusing to the mainstream, given the level of irony involved. The amount of humor and vulgarity confuses people. The true nature of the movement, however, is serious and idealistic. We have in this new millennium an extremely nihilistic culture. From the point when I first became active in what has become the Alt-Right movement, it was my contention that in an age of nihilism, absolute idealism must be couched in irony in order to be taken seriously. This is because anyone who attempts to present himself as serious will immediately be viewed as the opposite through the jaded lens of our post-modern milieu.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Baloogan posted:

its unironic, and by that I mean its sincere

What a weird website, you can tell their logical brain just breaks down upon writing the word Jew and starts going full magical thinking.

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

devtesla posted:

It sounds like the only person who got fired for this was the least responsible for whatever the gently caress happened.

AmericanPolitics.txt

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment I'm alive, I pray for death!

nopantsjack posted:

Wait is that a genuine, proud neo-nazi site trying to portray itself as hip and intellectual? poo poo is just getting weird now.

e:


or... its satire, a liberal site pretending to be a nazi one? plz

They are honest-to-god, unironic Neo-Nazis.

nopantsjack posted:

What a weird website, you can tell their logical brain just breaks down upon writing the word Jew and starts going full magical thinking.

In case you didn't know, the tagline of every issue of Julius Striecher's original Nazi tabloid, Der Stürmer, was "Die Juden sind unser unglueck!" Which translates as "The Jews are our misfortune!"

Captain_Maclaine has issued a correction as of 18:21 on Dec 11, 2016

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


You decadent americans with your freedom of speech.

These guys shouldn't have a platform for this poo poo and ideally should also be punched in the mouth.

Communist Thoughts has issued a correction as of 18:34 on Dec 11, 2016

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

nopantsjack posted:

You decadent americans with your freedom of speech.

These guys shouldn't have a platform for this poo poo and ideally should also be punched in the mouth.

shut up Brexit boy

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

nopantsjack posted:

You decadent americans with your freedom of speech.

These guys shouldn't have a platform for this poo poo and ideally should also be punched in the mouth.

Be the change you want to see.

Cnut the Great
Mar 30, 2014

Captain_Maclaine posted:

They are honest-to-god, unironic Neo-Nazis.

I still don't understand who they are. What are their numbers, what are their demographics, who are their leaders, how are they organized, etc.?

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/commietantric/status/808016141226483713

etalian
Mar 20, 2006


WP looks on the bright of life for the Yemeni genocide.

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

I want Trump to gather all the members of the news media again so that he can smugly brag about they couldn't beat him for a 2-3 hours. If he does this every single week during his time in office, I might actually have something positive to say about him come 2020.

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014


even for the washington post this is insanely garbage

Terror Sweat
Mar 15, 2009

nopantsjack posted:

You decadent americans with your freedom of speech.

These guys shouldn't have a platform for this poo poo and ideally should also be punched in the mouth.

go gently caress yourself

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Cnut the Great posted:

I still don't understand who they are. What are their numbers, what are their demographics, who are their leaders, how are they organized, etc.?

I don't have concrete numbers for most of those but spoiler alert their 'demographics' are 'super white with a few weird outliers'

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

hahaah gently caress these people. gently caress them all. i usually like the post too. sucks.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
me? I guess I'm just a blown up building full of corpses half-full kinda guy, I try to look at the positives.

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004

Cnut the Great posted:

I still don't understand who they are. What are their numbers, what are their demographics, who are their leaders, how are they organized, etc.?

read gbs archives from a dozen years ago and extrapolate the worst case progression of thin-irony-veneer racism to the present

its just neonazis too goony to go organize at rallies or lovely band shows

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
I mean, from a societal standpoint that's kind of interesting? I can see doing a story on "hey, all your loving men have died what does that do to how things are" but holy poo poo framing this as a positive outcome

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Breakfast All Day posted:

read gbs archives from a dozen years ago and extrapolate the worst case progression of thin-irony-veneer racism to the present

its just neonazis too goony to go organize at rallies or lovely band shows

I don't know about poo poo bands but they totally have rallies. Like, the guys who gather and shout 'heil hitler' are upset we call them nazis.

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004

Tatum Girlparts posted:

I don't know about poo poo bands but they totally have rallies. Like, the guys who gather and shout 'heil hitler' are upset we call them nazis.

right, but thats a more recent development because of the growth of the movement and normalization. it (until recently) was the pretense of irony and substitution of repurposed internet culture language and memes instead of overt nazi symbols that allowed it to pass on reddit, etc., and develop this bullshit brand. thats what allowed it to attract people whod otherwise be hesitant to organize with nazis even if they share the same prejudices, as opposed to something like stormfront. now that it has momentum you pull the cover off and people go "oh, i always thought i preferred coke to pepsi but here i am chugging pepsi. guess im a pepsi person afterall" only the pepsi is nazis

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




How about something that's been floating around a bunch of media/comedy types on Twitter lately: the idea that Teen Vogue is the best news source for the Trump era because they posted a few hyper-#woke articles.

Mariana Horchata
Jun 30, 2008

College Slice

Troy Queef posted:

How about something that's been floating around a bunch of media/comedy types on Twitter lately: the idea that Teen Vogue is the best news source for the Trump era because they posted a few hyper-#woke articles.

owns if true

http://www.teenvogue.com/story/donald-trump-is-gaslighting-america

:q:

niiice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_EylIzpggU

Cnut the Great
Mar 30, 2014

Tatum Girlparts posted:

I don't have concrete numbers for most of those but spoiler alert their 'demographics' are 'super white with a few weird outliers'

Well, obviously. But I think we kind of do need to have concrete numbers and information and stuff like that, because otherwise I don't think anyone can honestly claim to know what they're actually talking about when they say "alt-right." I don't think it's very useful to just vaguely wave our hands in the general direction of 4chan. Like, I hear that Milo guy is part of the alt-right, but despite his repugnant xenophobia he doesn't seem to me to be adhering to an ideology that can honestly be described as literally embodying the tenets of National Socialism, which is apparently an integral and necessary part of being "alt-right." It's all just kind of confusing.

Call me crazy, but think it's kind of important to have a bit more concrete information about what is apparently a powerful and influential, ideologically neo-Nazi movement in the United States of America.

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

Dapper_Swindler posted:

hahaah gently caress these people. gently caress them all. i usually like the post too. sucks.

It's gotten progressively worse since bezos bought it

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Cnut the Great posted:

Well, obviously. But I think we kind of do need to have concrete numbers and information and stuff like that, because otherwise I don't think anyone can honestly claim to know what they're actually talking about when they say "alt-right." I don't think it's very useful to just vaguely wave our hands in the general direction of 4chan. Like, I hear that Milo guy is part of the alt-right, but despite his repugnant xenophobia he doesn't seem to me to be adhering to an ideology that can honestly be described as literally embodying the tenets of National Socialism, which is apparently an integral and necessary part of being "alt-right." It's all just kind of confusing.

Call me crazy, but think it's kind of important to have a bit more concrete information about what is apparently a powerful and influential, ideologically neo-Nazi movement in the United States of America.

Milo really fuckin hates minorities and women. It's not a literal 'if you tick these boxes you're in this group' thing it's a catch all for what we used to just call 'loving white supremacist assholes'. This is a squares and rectangles thing, not every white supremacist is a neo-nazi, but every neo-nazi is a white supremacist.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Troy Queef posted:

How about something that's been floating around a bunch of media/comedy types on Twitter lately: the idea that Teen Vogue is the best news source for the Trump era because they posted a few hyper-#woke articles.

https://twitter.com/helenbholmes/status/807683653115449344

mrmcd
Feb 22, 2003

Pictured: The only good cop (a fictional one).

Wait so were the Standing Rock tweets actually part of a new editorial direction? I had assumed it was just some social media intern going off the reservation while unsupervised during the holiday weekend.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 34 hours!

mrmcd posted:

going off the reservation

not cool man.

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Did you know that, according to numerous studies, the older someone's father was at conception the more likely they are to be autistic?

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

https://twitter.com/imwiththoughts/status/808118814051303424

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Tatum Girlparts posted:

Milo really fuckin hates minorities and women. It's not a literal 'if you tick these boxes you're in this group' thing it's a catch all for what we used to just call 'loving white supremacist assholes'. This is a squares and rectangles thing, not every white supremacist is a neo-nazi, but every neo-nazi is a white supremacist.

Milo hates anyone who doesn't look like or wants to gently caress him. He'd gently caress a mirror if he could.

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get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

Blue Train posted:

It's gotten progressively worse since bezos bought it
the post was already pretty crappy before then. now it's no different than going to Salon and the like, it just also happens to have a print edition
remember how horrified liberals and the left were at karl rove's "make everything political" strategy? now they're carrying the torch. there's such a thing as escapism, and it doesn't mean you have to be detached from everything related to politics

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