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Subjunctive posted:People stop holding their breath because of the CO2 levels, not because of lack of oxygen. It's a reaction in the lungs that happens well before blood oxygen is depleted. I was going to mention that some long-term COPD patients operate primarily on hypoxic drive but apparently that's been debunked. 
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Regalingualius posted:I remember some story about an EMT goon dealing with a dispatcher who got really anal-retentive about using that phrase until they retorted with something to the effect of "his head is in a different room than the rest of his body". I think that was me, from back when I was a 911 dispatcher. I dispatched the call as a db or whatever code we were using at the time for a dead body, and got poo poo because how could I be sure from the neighbor's phone call that the subject was dead?
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Zipperelli. posted:60-120 seconds? Oh hell we'd be so fired over here for that. Where I'm at, if we were to find someone in cardiac arrest, specifically asystole (or, flat-lined basically), we have to work them for 15 minutes. If after 15 minutes the patient hasn't responded to any of the treatments we've done, we can radio medical control, explain the situation, and then we can cease efforts. Even in this instance, we need to make sure the doc is ok with it. My youngest brother used to work at a state mental facility used for housing sex offenders. He found a client dead during a bed check one night, and he was clearly not living. His supervisor made him perform CPR on a corpse for over 30 minutes until the doctors arrived. He quit the next week.
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CaptBushido posted:I was under the impression that determining scientific death is actually a really touchy and philosophical subject. Like, someone can be cold on the ground for an hour but there could still be brain stem or cardiovascular activity because the body doesn't have a giant "off" switch, no matter how bad it gets hosed up, and the systems tend to shut down in a slow systematic manner. I think the big issue is that if a paramedic tries to call death on the scene early, they could accidentally call death on someone who can be saved or otherwise make the decision that nothing further can be done and cease life saving, inadvertently resulting in the person's death due to a lack of continued treatment.
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If you really like suffering you'll love the Cleveland Browns.
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Chichevache posted:If you really like suffering you'll love the Cleveland Browns. I don't live in the US & have no idea what's going on here.
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Former EMT here. We can't legally declare someone dead. However, the rule is different in every single state. In the state I worked you could stop a code then call the time of death in to the doctor at a nearby hospital. You could declare someone dead and didn't have to write anything but "patient has injury incompatible with life" etc.. The coroner then issued the death certificate based on the time you recorded. Also, there are times when people are dead and we still try to revive them. This mostly has to do with the fact that it's very distressing to nearby family members to have EMS show up walk in and go " Yeah, this guy is dead . Okay well see you later you need to call the coroner". Like regardless of how much lividity a baby showed from a crib dead or SIDS. You transport. The rules for children are different. Unless it's mass casualty etc.. you always transport and work children. It's simply because you don't want to be in a situation where you have to look at parents and tell them their child is dead and there is nothing you can do.
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Chichevache posted:If you really like suffering you'll love the Cleveland Browns. 
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I thought the browns had a dog as their mascot? Is that a keebler elf?!
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verymoldy posted:I thought the browns had a dog as their mascot? Is that a keebler elf?! More or less, yeah. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brownie_(folklore)
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Looks like a brownie. It's a sort of elf. EDIT: 
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Beeswax posted:I don't live in the US & have no idea what's going on here. Browns try a trick-play in a situation where all conventional wisdom says to run between the tackles. They end up turning the ball over and almost getting their chronically injured quarterback crucified.
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Chichevache posted:If you really like suffering you'll love the Cleveland Browns. Standard Browns loving up in the best way possible. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBkjOrYv1Gk And one of the best fan shot reactions ever. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUq0Gj3ANjQ
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Tony Phillips posted:Standard Browns loving up in the best way possible. That reaction is fantastic. God hates Cleveland.
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Tony Phillips posted:
I was there for this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xttADsZDFvY All three WSU quarterbacks were injured of the course of the game.
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Beeswax posted:I don't live in the US & have no idea what's going on here. The Cleveland Browns are the American equivalent of the Melbourne Demons in almost every way.
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You can currently get tickets to see the Browns for like $6. It's still not worth it.
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Animal fails. You'll believe a dog can fly. https://youtu.be/4s9VpBu_Uvg
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Geocities Homepage King posted:You can currently get tickets to see the Browns for like $6. I was in Detroit for work for a couple of months the season after they went 0-16 and got free tickets off of Craigslist for a game.
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Like... what was the original goal? Best case scenario, what's the outcome?
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When in doubt, it's a sex thing.
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omnibobb posted:Like... what was the original goal? Best case scenario, what's the outcome? he drives the bike into that man's bum
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omnibobb posted:Like... what was the original goal? Best case scenario, what's the outcome? "I bet you can't ride that dirt bike up my dirt box'.
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omnibobb posted:Like... what was the original goal? Best case scenario, what's the outcome? Pff. Lookit this nerd who has never driven a dirt bike into a friends rectum. 
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swordfish duelist posted:Pff. Lookit this nerd who has never driven a dirt bike into a friends rectum. I was too busy shoving comic books and video games into my friends bum.
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omnibobb posted:I was too busy shoving comic books and video games into my friends bum. Wanna hang out sometime?
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swordfish duelist posted:Wanna hang out sometime? check your pms
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I'm Whitey McSpats who comes in for the fun and stays for the assault
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Was that an unsuccessful robbery?
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Jamfrost posted:Was that an unsuccessful robbery? I think it's fair to say that he's not exactly DB Cooper.
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Good to see the universal rule of "hang on, everyone pause while I get my shoe back on first" still applies in robbery situations as well.
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spog posted:I think it's fair to say that he's not exactly DB Cooper. He dead.
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Platystemon posted:He dead. The ultimate getaway
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FCKGW posted:Good to see the universal rule of "hang on, everyone pause while I get my shoe back on first" still applies in robbery situations as well. That was amazing 
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My favorite part is how, in dollar value, they almost certainly did more damage to the store "apprehending" the dude than he even robbed them for
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This was great, but it turned magical when the customer just loving bonked him with the cardboard display.
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