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He's not an idiot, he just thinks the API is magic, can do magic, and therefore wants to shove any problematic thing into the API. He tries to have this conversation at least every week or two. It usually takes the form of "well the API could convert <bad value> into <good value>" and I just say "No, I'm not doing that" and that's the end of it.
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Buddy, he's doing live edits in production and given the other stuff you described - it's really dumb to do that as a way to handle his job responsibilities. I'll cordon off his idioicy to just his job.
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smackfu posted:Who has a holiday production freeze? How does that work for you with sprints and continuous delivery? We have the opposite, there's a company-sponsored "codeathon" 2-day at the end of this week that basically amounts to "lock the developers in a room until they come out with something". My coworkers are questioning how they're supposed to explain to their family that they need to stay overnight in a city 2 hours away. 
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Dec 12, 2016 01:04
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They should probably explain to the boss that sometimes software is late and he can gently caress off
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Pollyanna posted:We have the opposite, there's a company-sponsored "codeathon" 2-day at the end of this week that basically amounts to "lock the developers in a room until they come out with something". My coworkers are questioning how they're supposed to explain to their family that they need to stay overnight in a city 2 hours away. oh, that's easy, "i resigned because working conditions were insane so now i have to interview"
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Pollyanna posted:We have the opposite, there's a company-sponsored "codeathon" 2-day at the end of this week that basically amounts to "lock the developers in a room until they come out with something". My coworkers are questioning how they're supposed to explain to their family that they need to stay overnight in a city 2 hours away. You mean it's an optional team building thing and they can build whatever they want for their own personal gain with lodging and food provided by the company, right? If it's not it then 
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Dec 12, 2016 02:02
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HardDiskD posted:You mean it's an optional team building thing and they can build whatever they want for their own personal gain with lodging and food provided by the company, right? http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3607482&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=83#post467207871
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Che Delilas posted:http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3607482&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=83#post467207871 I'm not even sure it is legal to make employees travel on their own dime. In any state.
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HardDiskD posted:You mean it's an optional team building thing and they can build whatever they want for their own personal gain with lodging and food provided by the company, right? Problem is, OP has done this maybe a little too often.
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Dec 12, 2016 18:37
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Skandranon posted:Problem is, OP has done this maybe a little too often. Yeah, I wouldn't trust my own judgment on this. Maybe after another year at the job, I'll be in a position where I can clearly say it's time to move on. Still, this doesn't fill me with confidence. Oh well, not my problem.
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Dec 12, 2016 19:38
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My Rhythmic Crotch posted:You may remember me as the guy with the boss everyone hated. The fact that this did not end with "and was severely reprimanded/fired" means that you should eject because there's no hope for the future while these kinds of clowns are around.
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revmoo posted:I'm not even sure it is legal to make employees travel on their own dime. In any state.
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Thats normal, I meant hotel bookings, but going back and looking it appears the ops company was actually paying.
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Dec 13, 2016 16:02
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"How do we point these stories? By hours taken or by effort points?" "We add effort points but they don't mean anything, and we have each developer log their hours worked at the end of each day." "Wait, so then how do we scope our sprints?" "Oh, we don't really scope them. We just pull in as much stuff as we want to get done and extend the sprint by a couple weeks if we don't finish." "Uh...okay. What about grooming?" "What's grooming?" 
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... What's grooming?
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Look like a pretty chill work environment if you ask me 
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Working in Development: What's grooming?
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csammis posted:Working in Development: What's grooming?
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csammis posted:Working in Development: What's grooming?
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csammis posted:Working in Development: What's grooming? Not emptyquoting. I meant backlog grooming 
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Pollyanna posted:Not emptyquoting. There's no walking this back now, own it.
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Dec 13, 2016 18:05
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Backlogs groomed more frequently than bodies.
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HardDiskD posted:... What's grooming? We have a British scrum master that flips the gently caress out if you say "backlog grooming" because pedophiles. It's "backlog refinement" now.
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baquerd posted:We have a British scrum master that flips the gently caress out if you say "backlog grooming" because pedophiles. It's "backlog refinement" now.
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Dec 13, 2016 19:19
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In japan its 14 story points. That's why they get their releases out so much faster.
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Isn't the whole point of grooming to get the stories as small as possible? I prefer 5-8 points myself, but I'm weird.
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Skandranon posted:Isn't the whole point of grooming to get the stories as small as possible? I prefer 5-8 points myself, but I'm weird. No, the primary objective of grooming is to understand and discuss the stories to share knowledge and planning across the team. The secondary objective is to rough-in sizes for stories to give the PO (or whoever) a rough idea of the work required to clear the backlog and to force thinking about scope and relative effort. As a tertiary point, grooming gives you the opportunity to break stories apart (or join them together) to aid in the primary and secondary objectives, but at no point should the objective be to make stories as small as possible. Stories should fit into a sprint and be well understood, anyone sperging about sizes after that is missing the point.
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Vulture Culture posted:There's no grooming any story under 16 story points. I really hate it when people ban 'bad' words that are only offensive in a particular context but still: lmao
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baquerd posted:No, the primary objective of grooming is to understand and discuss the stories to share knowledge and planning across the team. The secondary objective is to rough-in sizes for stories to give the PO (or whoever) a rough idea of the work required to clear the backlog and to force thinking about scope and relative effort. As a tertiary point, grooming gives you the opportunity to break stories apart (or join them together) to aid in the primary and secondary objectives, but at no point should the objective be to make stories as small as possible. Stories should fit into a sprint and be well understood, anyone sperging about sizes after that is missing the point. 
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Damnit, so I did. Bad memories of a PO that had us break apart 2 story point stories because there were clearly severable AC.
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baquerd posted:No, the primary objective of grooming is to understand and discuss the stories to share knowledge and planning across the team. The secondary objective is to rough-in sizes for stories to give the PO (or whoever) a rough idea of the work required to clear the backlog and to force thinking about scope and relative effort. As a tertiary point, grooming gives you the opportunity to break stories apart (or join them together) to aid in the primary and secondary objectives, but at no point should the objective be to make stories as small as possible. Stories should fit into a sprint and be well understood, anyone sperging about sizes after that is missing the point. To give a serious answer: I think it's always worthwhile to at least ask the question "can we do less and still deliver value". This may very well result in stories being split up, and often part 2 of the story will drop down the backlog because it turns out part 1 will do for now. It's a good way to avoid gold plating.
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I wish we were better about that. We tend to just debate for too long about whether to do the simple version or the fancy version.
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smackfu posted:I wish we were better about that. We tend to just debate for too long about whether to do the simple version or the fancy version. at one place i routinely sat in meetings totaling more time than the time it took to just build the thing i left
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leper khan posted:at one place i routinely sat in meetings totaling more time than the time it took to just build the thing The only reason this isn't the case at my current job is because development on features is so slow that they take months to produce, even relatively small ones. RFCs and signoffs and all that.
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I am currently appreciating the workflow process I find myself surrounded by, where while doing planned work, the greybeards take it upon themselves to 'fix' the older code, introduce a dozen new critical showstopper bugs, and then just toss them into the backlog to be worked on in a future sprint. And then we wonder why we can't make deadlines and why every release ends up in a mad-dash all hands on deck QA overtime week.
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We got $1 lottery tickets as Christmas presents.
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Pollyanna posted:We got $1 lottery tickets as Christmas presents. It could be your ticket out of there ... I'll show myself out e: Alternatively, it's a Maybe<EarlyRetirement> Munkeymon fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Dec 14, 2016 |
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Pollyanna posted:We got $1 lottery tickets as Christmas presents. That's an insult, not a gift.
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Volmarias posted:That's an insult, not a gift. You think the bosses that give those out expect part of it if you win?
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Skandranon posted:You think the bosses that give those out expect part of it if you win? No, but the bosses definitely only spent one dollar (per however many tickets) per employee on "gifts." Since most of those are probably worth only as much as the paper they're printed on, the effective "gift" from the employee's perspective is even less than was spent. If anything does come of the tickets then it's at the state's expense and not the company's. It's a copout. Hell, even a tub of popcorn has guaranteed calories.
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