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Anime Schoolgirl posted:american education Buddy, I know more about economic development than business majors or junior economists, because Economic History is considered a history credit.
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rudatron posted:it's not just american education, though they do make a habit of 'visting' marx, but then throw out some trite objections based on misunderstandings that 'disprove' him, then move on, there's no serious study or honesty about it humanity is reliably disappointing Pener Kropoopkin posted:Buddy, I know more about economic development than business majors or junior economists, because Economic History is considered a history credit.  i have not taken college courses in a long while, gently caress's sake i don't remember things being this awful
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rudatron posted:it's not just american education, though they do make a habit of 'visting' marx, but then throw out some trite objections based on misunderstandings that 'disprove' him, then move on, there's no serious study or honesty about it We should push to make studying Marxist criticism mandatory in every 9th grade classroom.
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tadashi posted:I bet, if you follow the money, there is a very good reason why certain guns were left off while others were left on. I think elected officials don't know what they're talking about but they have a whole team of people to do that research for them and, as a whole, they knew exactly what they were doing. As I understand it, this is what more-or-less happened in Canada. We in the US got a fun list of entirely arbitrary features, and a lot of small-time manufacturers got hosed because they produced poo poo that was no not kosher under the new AWB. Some sort of started up again after it sunset.
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Look up Coase Theorem if you want to know the sort of poo poo that Very Serious People take Very Seriously here in America.
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tadashi posted:I bet, if you follow the money, there is a very good reason why certain guns were left off while others were left on. I think elected officials don't know what they're talking about but they have a whole team of people to do that research for them and, as a whole, they knew exactly what they were doing. You may think they don't know what they are doing, but make no mistake - they know exactly what they are doing. They are undertaking a systemic effort.
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:
IIRC you could get a finance or econ credit for taking the course, but it was still an elective for students in those programs.
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The Kingfish posted:Look up Coase Theorem if you want to know the sort of poo poo that Very Serious People take Very Seriously here in America.
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Cuz Theorem: unregulated markets work jus' becuz
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cum theorem: sucking my dick makes everyone better of without making anyone worse of, ergo get on your knees
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tadashi posted:I bet, if you follow the money, there is a very good reason why certain guns were left off while others were left on. I think elected officials don't know what they're talking about but they have a whole team of people to do that research for them and, as a whole, they knew exactly what they were doing. Nah, the assault weapons ban was mostly about disarming black people. The presence of specific firearms on the banlist is mostly coincidental and has a lot to with whether or not one of said guns had been fired at bruce willis or arnold schwarzenegger in the previous decade. The banning of elements of a firearm was mostly ignored by the moneyed interestests because all large firearms manufacturers were able to retool production in a matter of weeks to accommodate the ban.
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Resources naturally flow to their best and highest use. regulations are a necessary evil that necessarily obstruct this economic law.
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Bushiz posted:Nah, the assault weapons ban was mostly about disarming black people. The presence of specific firearms on the banlist is mostly coincidental and has a lot to with whether or not one of said guns had been fired at bruce willis or arnold schwarzenegger in the previous decade. The banning of elements of a firearm was mostly ignored by the moneyed interestests because all large firearms manufacturers were able to retool production in a matter of weeks to accommodate the ban. basically, always assume the lowest class is getting hosed
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:tonsil stones formed from rudatron's cum have inherent value 
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GlyphGryph posted:She lost her money in the same exact way Trump did though, it is disingenious but also appropriate beause the original claim was disingenious in the same exact way, implying that any amount of money invested in a risky pursuit is lost if that pursuit doesnt pay off and thus a mistake to have spent this is a dumb meme but i'm a little confused as to how investing a billion dollars in an enterprise that fails can be considered anything other than a mistake
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Pollyanna posted:basically, always assume the lowest class is getting hosed More ID is required to buy a gun legally in all 50 states than it is to vote states without voter ID laws. In the states where voter ID has been implemented, the amount is exactly the same. Something something minority suppression something something. OWLS! has issued a correction as of 17:14 on Dec 12, 2016 |
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Concerned Citizen posted:this is a dumb meme but i'm a little confused as to how investing a billion dollars in an enterprise that fails can be considered anything other than a mistake The mistake is talking about a political campaign as though it were an investment in the first place. That money was gone whether she won or lost.
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So is Keith Ellison going to usher in 1000 years of progressive darkness or will the DNC electors ratfuck him somehow?
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Concerned Citizen posted:this is a dumb meme but i'm a little confused as to how investing a billion dollars in an enterprise that fails can be considered anything other than a mistake
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docbeard posted:The mistake is talking about a political campaign as though it were an investment in the first place. That money was gone whether she won or lost. Her investors would have gotten much more return if she'd won though.
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Aurubin posted:So is Keith Ellison going to usher in 1000 years of progressive darkness or will the DNC electors ratfuck him somehow? There will almost certainly be attempts at ratfucking, marginalizing, and sabotaging. On the other hand, some significant portion of Dems have no strong commitment to third way ideology and are probably getting real sick of losing, so he's going to have some support as well.
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Wordsmithing a new way to say 'socialism' is the obvious, vulgar conclusion of seventy years of corporatism. The brainbug has finally reached the root and now we're ready to show our slidedeck to the masses.
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Aurubin posted:So is Keith Ellison going to usher in 1000 years of progressive darkness or will the DNC electors ratfuck him somehow? What do you expect? Seriously though, the most likely outcome is that they let him be chair just to make the progressives/leftists happy, and then stonewall him on any progress he tries to make.
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Aurubin posted:So is Keith Ellison going to usher in 1000 years of progressive darkness or will the DNC electors ratfuck him somehow? Last I checked, he was saying he'd step down as Congressman if elected, if that's what was required of him. What that means to me is they've pushed him back on his heels and it's the first sign he's not going to win.
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Joementum posted:Wordsmithing a new way to say 'socialism' is the obvious, vulgar conclusion of seventy years of corporatism. The brainbug has finally reached the root and now we're ready to show our slidedeck to the masses. It's been called the progressive platform this whole election so it's already rebranded you dummy
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OWLS! posted:More ID is required to buy a gun legally in all 50 states than it is to vote states without voter ID laws. counterpoint: this is a good thing, as the burden of gun ownership SHOULD be higher than the burden (which should be 0) to voting
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Aurubin posted:So is Keith Ellison going to usher in 1000 years of progressive darkness or will the DNC electors ratfuck him somehow? keith ellison will not usher in 1000 years of progressive darkness *and* dnc electors will not "ratfuck him" because this is not how the dnc works
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Joementum posted:Wordsmithing a new way to say 'socialism' is the obvious, vulgar conclusion of seventy years of corporatism. The brainbug has finally reached the root and now we're ready to show our slidedeck to the masses. is a new brand let's give marx a ~~makeover~~ *lovely rock music starts playing*
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instead of plain red on sepia we should vajazz the word "socialism" with blingee and glitter
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Tatsuta Age posted:counterpoint: this is a good thing, as the burden of gun ownership SHOULD be higher than the burden (which should be 0) to voting Countercounterpoint: IDs should be freely accessible, and the burden to gun ownership will be higher by default even with IDs because you have to do the song and dance with the 4473 + background check. (gently caress voter ID laws though on general principle of the matter)
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Concerned Citizen posted:keith ellison will not usher in 1000 years of progressive darkness *and* dnc electors will not "ratfuck him" because this is not how the dnc works They will try to ratfuck him and probably fail because lol democrats
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Hillary Clinton lost because she's terrible at both campaigning and doing politics in any manner but slimy. The Democrats have been losing because theirs is a culture of obstinate holier than thou bullshit. Any claims that either entity is fine is incredibly stupid, but it's fine because the Dems seem to be killing themselves. I just wish it would happen faster so we can get the center right garbage over with and move into slightly worse but much more honest fascism.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:"Intersectionality" seems to be the way to go, but we'll still have to fight liberals over means testing.
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Bushiz posted:Absolute best case is that Ellison leads to some sizeable gains in 2018, at which point Schumer & Co. try to take credit for it and take control of the party again to prepare us for clinton/booker 2020 what does "take control of the party" even mean? Agean90 posted:They will try to ratfuck him and probably fail because lol democrats there's literally nothing to ratfuck over. the dnc chair is not a powerful position. real life isn't game of thrones. ellison is gonna implement some good programs, i hope, to improve democratic organization across the country. he and his folks will do some interviews on tv attacking trump. he's going to go to a lot of fundraisers and make some money for the dnc. i don't know what people think the dnc chair does but it will not make the party more or less progressive - that job goes to the voters electing democratic officials. Concerned Citizen has issued a correction as of 17:29 on Dec 12, 2016 |
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:they've already established that intersectionality doesn't apply to poors, it's a poisoned well The dialectic is moving forward on this, actually.
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