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Cartoon Violence
Oct 30, 2012

Stop being such goons, you CLODS!

Deadmeat5150 posted:

I loved this game so much. Goons had a superpowered group of Presidents we would mess around with. I was Ronald Raygun.

I wonder if I still have pics from that

This sounds outstanding. Things like that really justify a subpar game's existence, IMO. If you still have screenshots, I'd love to see them!

JamieTheD posted:

Aaaaah, my. It says a lot about me that five seconds into the Tibia video, I thought "Yup, that is indeed an Ultima styled game." Twenty or so seconds "I've seen worse UIs, even within the Ultima games." Forty, and "Yup, that is indeed the result of players just leaving the poo poo they don't need in the castle, joy." Then I closed the vid at about 1:20 in, because yeah, this was indeed a '96 RPG (One might argue it was a '91 RPG that took way too bloody long to make, but quality varied even more wildly back then, even among the "big" developers.)

So yeah... :sigh:

On the other hand, I openly giggled and cheered a little when The Lady of Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch turned up, for obvious reasons. That would probably have fit right in with the first couple of editions of Champions (HERO System is now in its 5th edition, but my favourite, setting wise, was New Millennium, even if it used Fuzion, which was hot garbage.) and yes, the customisation options are magical for Champions, even if the game... Isn't so hot.

EDIT: Also, I can confirm, yes, that is exactly what most gifts of Wales look like. Well, that, or a black sheep which has shaved "BAN MINT SAUCE" into its fleece in protest. :v:

We really did intend on trying to play more of Tibia, hopefully a full 20 or 30 minutes, but all of the poo poo you see in the video crushed my will to play, and Darcy probably wasn't interested in being stuck in a room for another 15 minutes. I still think it's interesting what people put up with in video games back in the day.

I'm hoping The Lady is just the first among many of Darcy's creations to come out of games with good customization. :D Champions as a tabletop game seems interesting. Is it the best comic book / super hero tabletop RPG there is? Or are there universally better ones out there?

Pear-Drop posted:


I would very much like to see Colonel Croak.

Going to second you here, Darcy. Anyone who wants to share their own MMO creations are free to, and if you want me to, I'll happily add people's precious children to the second post of the thread.

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Deadmeat5150
Nov 21, 2005

OLD MAN YELLS AT CLAN
Meet Colonel Croak


He doesn't mess around.

Pear-Drop
Mar 14, 2015

It's anime not animes you baka.

Deadmeat5150 posted:

Meet Colonel Croak


He doesn't mess around.


I think I'm in love with the Colonel not gonna lie :allears:

I feel this thread is going to turn into posting Champions Online children.

SystemLogoff
Feb 19, 2011

End Session?

So, if you guys want to play tibia again.

You'll need to make new accounts, and manually select the same server on the character creation page.

I would also advise the download client over the flash client, since it will give help tips.

Scaly Haylie
Dec 25, 2004

SystemLogoff posted:

So, if you guys want to play tibia again.

That seems like a big if there, buddy.

JamieTheD
Nov 4, 2011

LPer, Reviewer, Mad Welshman

(Yes, that's a self portrait)

Cartoon Violence posted:

We really did intend on trying to play more of Tibia, hopefully a full 20 or 30 minutes, but all of the poo poo you see in the video crushed my will to play, and Darcy probably wasn't interested in being stuck in a room for another 15 minutes. I still think it's interesting what people put up with in video games back in the day.

*Chuckles* It's mostly because dem vidya games were still developing, and so was an idea of what was good. For example, Ultima VI (On which Tibia is mostly based, because the first five were more obviously tile based, and the next two kicked off an isometric trend) were praised for their accessibility as RPGs. Also that year was the first SMT game, "Wasteland 2" : Fountain of Dreams, and Megatraveller 1: The Zhodani Conspiracy, only one of which was first person, and one of which was infamous for being unfinished, rushed, and loving tedious to play (Megatraveller, where the sequel proudly proclaimed that only 50% or so of the skills didn't have a use in the game, as opposed to the 80% of the first one.)

Cartoon Violence posted:

I'm hoping The Lady is just the first among many of Darcy's creations to come out of games with good customization. :D Champions as a tabletop game seems interesting. Is it the best comic book / super hero tabletop RPG there is? Or are there universally better ones out there?

Gaaaaaah, it really depends what you're looking for. For power customisation, there's not a lot that rivals it. But the D20 superheroes game, Mutants and Masterminds, is somewhat simpler, the official Marvel and DC RPGs have both gotten more accessible as the years have gone by (Although wavering in their stance on playing with The Beloved Canon a heckuva lot), and, for just getting an archetype down and having that superhero drama? The two Powered by Apocalypse games, Worlds in Peril and the recently released MASKS can't really be beat.

And then, of course, there's Stuperpowers, which is dumb, has dumb powers, and justifies that in a very Mystery Men way (All the good heroes are dead and/or have hosed off, but the Villains were more sensible.) The only tabletop game I've played where I and a friend managed to kill Elvis by, respectively, giving him a 70s hairdo (Thus ruining his image, and turning him into an Elvis Impersonator, who isn't immortal, like The King obviously is), and then dropping a 60 foot tall toilet on him from the sky (My literal power. 60 foot toilet from sky.)

Cathode Raymond
Dec 30, 2015

My antenna is telling me that you're probably wrong about this.
Soiled Meat

Deadmeat5150 posted:

Meet Colonel Croak


So not unlike the Lady of Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch, Colonel Croak is an otherworldly animal monster who uses ordinary human weapons? And he aspires to a more-or-less standard career in a human military?

Dinictus
Nov 26, 2005

May our CoX spray white sticky fluid at our enemies forever!
HAIL ARACHNOS!
Soiled Meat

Cathode Raymond posted:

So not unlike the Lady of Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch, Colonel Croak is an otherworldly animal monster who uses ordinary human weapons? And he aspires to a more-or-less standard career in a human military?

Considering the game draws from the Champions RPG setting, who knows - the good colonel might be an unwitting victim of Doctor Moreau (yes, they went there) and spliced him with some manner of amphibian, making him one of the many unfortunate Manimals.

The game may be a theme park levelling experience with regards to its zones, but it makes the most from its salvaged initial basis from 'Marvel: The MMO' to its release state of being based on Champions' pen and paper materials.

Deadmeat5150
Nov 21, 2005

OLD MAN YELLS AT CLAN
I didnt think that deep into his background. He more or less came about from messing with the character creator while making a soldier.

So he was once a soldier who licked a radioactive frog.

Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013
I played Champions when I was part of a multi-MMO Mormon guild and all I remember is PvP was stupid if you didn't put your super stats into straight attack or defense. I had a character who never ran out of MP but his attacks did nothing and a single hit from the super strength or super ability power guys turned him into a fine bloody mist.

Cathode Raymond
Dec 30, 2015

My antenna is telling me that you're probably wrong about this.
Soiled Meat

Deadmeat5150 posted:

I didnt think that deep into his background. He more or less came about from messing with the character creator while making a soldier.

So he was once a soldier who licked a radioactive frog.

Oh I see, I was looking at it upside-down. I was thinking he was a frog-monster-turned-soldier and not the other way around.

I learned a hard lesson today about the danger of making assumptions about people.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

Deadmeat5150 posted:

Meet Colonel Croak


He doesn't mess around.


This westernized version of Sgt. Frog is pretty weird, not gonna lie.

Cartoon Violence
Oct 30, 2012

Stop being such goons, you CLODS!


Low framerates and one-use scrolls limit the adventures that a penguin and old-timey gangster have in the wonderful world of Shaiya!

Slight warning. This is the first of 3 videos where my (Olivia's) audio got all messed up while recording, so I won't sound as clear as usual. That should clear up in a few videos.

Welp. Another Aeria Games masterpiece to show off. I couldn't find any info on this thing from any English-speaking source other than those weird free MMO sites that drip feed praise onto every F2P thing to hit the market. I can tell you all that this is a tab-targetting game that somehow left out tab-targetting, at least when I played it in the video. Everything is janky and clunky. The framerate dips frequently for no reason. The game can't process you turning your character around. The texture work, gameplay, and overall feel of the game would've been forgiven had the game came out in the early 2000's, but according to Google this thing came out in 2007, around the same time as Bioshock, so no excuses.

When making a character, they allow you to pick a difficulty mode, which I guess is unique for an MMO, but really it's just a switch for perma-death, which I'm sure is just exhilarating to have happen to you in practice.

Now, to be fair, I think the game was trying to be similar to Lineage 2. I don't know why that comparison comes to mind, but it's what I thought of when I first popped into the game world. The weird thing is that I found Lineage 2's clunkiness to be charming, while this game it just irritated me. Maybe I've just been spoiled by games that do it better, but this is a definite pass if our video didn't make that clear enough.

Deadmeat5150
Nov 21, 2005

OLD MAN YELLS AT CLAN
Why do all these lovely free mmos have overly complex bullshit crafty systems that add nothing to actual gameplay?

General Maximus
Jul 14, 2006
Standard models come in white labcoats for inexplicable reasons.

Deadmeat5150 posted:

Why do all these lovely free mmos have overly complex bullshit crafty systems that add nothing to actual gameplay?

To extend playtime without having to create more actual content. Same reason grinding tends to be more of a thing the lower your budget is.

Dinictus
Nov 26, 2005

May our CoX spray white sticky fluid at our enemies forever!
HAIL ARACHNOS!
Soiled Meat

Deadmeat5150 posted:

Why do all these lovely free mmos have overly complex bullshit crafty systems that add nothing to actual gameplay?

General Maximus posted:

To extend playtime without having to create more actual content. Same reason grinding tends to be more of a thing the lower your budget is.

That, and usually to offer a crafting pack on the cash store so you can beat the lovely odds for crafting success, or that you don't need to grind the obnoxious material requirements, or in some cases, to even attempt the crafting at high enough levels.

Cathode Raymond
Dec 30, 2015

My antenna is telling me that you're probably wrong about this.
Soiled Meat
All those foxes dead, and for what? So that Darcy could wear a penguin suit? This is a shameful chapter in human-canid relations.

Cartoon Violence
Oct 30, 2012

Stop being such goons, you CLODS!

Cathode Raymond posted:

All those foxes dead, and for what? So that Darcy could wear a penguin suit? This is a shameful chapter in human-canid relations.

You'll quickly learn that Darcy is the more bloodthirsty one. It's a shame that they provoke war like they do, but in the end, aren't we all just dogs of the military? Not to be confused with the literal dogs we wage war on.

A quick announcement to everyone! As of today, 12/20/2016, requests are closed. We've got plenty of material to last us into 2017, and we thank you all for participating! Look forward to the upcoming videos in which we realize we can only go up from Shaiya and Tibia.

Schubalts
Nov 26, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life, I think I've gone too far.

Cartoon Violence posted:

Look forward to the upcoming videos in which we realize we can only go up from Shaiya and Tibia.

If only.

Digital Jello
Nov 2, 2012

Now I have a machine gun. Ho! Ho! Ho!
To pour some gasoline on the fire that is Shaiya, I thought I'd mention that Aeria Games once gave you the option to bring back your toon/avatar if you chose a perma-death mode for $100.

Yes, a real $100. I bet anyone can think of an infinite amount of things to do with a hundred bucks other than resurrect a toon from a horrible game.

(To be fair, I'm not sure if they still do this or not. I haven't "played" Shaiya in years).

Yapping Eevee
Nov 12, 2011

STAND TOGETHER.
FIGHT WITH HONOR.
RESTORE BALANCE.

Eevees play for free.

Digital Jello posted:

To pour some gasoline on the fire that is Shaiya, I thought I'd mention that Aeria Games once gave you the option to bring back your toon/avatar if you chose a perma-death mode for $100.

Yes, a real $100.
:psyduck: Some people are crazy enough to do that; that's the really sad thing.

Cartoon Violence posted:

A quick announcement to everyone! As of today, 12/20/2016, requests are closed. We've got plenty of material to last us into 2017, and we thank you all for participating! Look forward to the upcoming videos in which we realize we can only go up from Shaiya and Tibia.
I imagine you've got quite a list by this point. I'm looking forward to seeing more of the good, bad and ugly of MMOs.

Also I'm sure things could always get worse. :unsmigghh:

Das Panzer
Nov 11, 2016
I'm actually curious, do you mind posting what's on that list? (Or is it super secret?)

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves
So I decided to catch up on this thread by watching Scarlet Blade Part 2: Cartoon Titties Strike Back; and how high were you guys when you recorded that episode?

Herr Tog
Jun 18, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Das Panzer posted:

I'm actually curious, do you mind posting what's on that list? (Or is it super secret?)

inquiring minds want to know

Pear-Drop
Mar 14, 2015

It's anime not animes you baka.

Gridlocked posted:

So I decided to catch up on this thread by watching Scarlet Blade Part 2: Cartoon Titties Strike Back; and how high were you guys when you recorded that episode?

I don't usually promote drug abuse but in all honesty I think you need to be high to play Scarlet Blade.

Cartoon Violence
Oct 30, 2012

Stop being such goons, you CLODS!

Digital Jello posted:

To pour some gasoline on the fire that is Shaiya, I thought I'd mention that Aeria Games once gave you the option to bring back your toon/avatar if you chose a perma-death mode for $100.

Yes, a real $100. I bet anyone can think of an infinite amount of things to do with a hundred bucks other than resurrect a toon from a horrible game.

(To be fair, I'm not sure if they still do this or not. I haven't "played" Shaiya in years).

drat, that's some dedication those players have. I wouldn't pay money to resurrect my character in a GOOD game with permadeath. $100 for a Shaiya character, this thread is making me learn new things about life that I'm not sure if I'm grateful for.

Haha just kidding one time I spent $70 for DLC for a game I didn't even like that much, I'm the real problem ::v:

Gridlocked posted:

So I decided to catch up on this thread by watching Scarlet Blade Part 2: Cartoon Titties Strike Back; and how high were you guys when you recorded that episode?

Good question! Originally, Darcy suggested we do a video of Scarlet Blade where we spend the whole time praising it and acting like it's legitimately fun. For some reason I decided after we started recording to start imitating the unironic reviewers from free MMO aggregators, and Darcy fed off me and it became something else entirely.

Das Panzer posted:

I'm actually curious, do you mind posting what's on that list? (Or is it super secret?)

Certainly! Here is the list starting with videos that have yet to come out:

Project Gorgon
Dungeon Fighter Online
Phantasy Star 2 Online
Pirate 101
Toontown Rewritten
War Rock
Combat Arms
Vindictus
Urban Rivals
Castle Infinity
Adventure Quest 3D
Ragnorok Online 2
Artix Entertainment Games
Fiesta
War Thunder
Mabinogi
Wonderland Online
Otherland
Runescape
Dungeons and Dragons Online
America's Army
Flyff
Warframe
Guild Wars 2
Wildstar
Meridian 59
Minions of Mirth

Some of those we have noted down that a couple of you wanted to possibly participate? When it comes time to record those, I'll shout out in the thread to see if the volunteers are still interested.

Deadmeat5150
Nov 21, 2005

OLD MAN YELLS AT CLAN
People pay for stupid things. I dropped $$$ to buy the Specialist archetype for Champions, and it sucks hard.

Das Panzer
Nov 11, 2016

Deadmeat5150 posted:

People pay for stupid things. I dropped $$$ to buy the Specialist archetype for Champions, and it sucks hard.

People are silly and pay cash for silly things. I once dropped 25$ on a single gun for combat arms... still have said gun, too. I was a doof back then, sadly.

There's also collectors editions for mainline games. Some of them are neat (looking at you, Halo Reach) and some of them are a ripoff. And let's not even get started on preordering.

Good Dumplings
Mar 30, 2011

Excuse my worthless shitposting because all I can ever hope to accomplish in life is to rot away the braincells of strangers on the internet with my irredeemable brainworms.
EVE! Play EVE! Shoot, I'll give you guys a tour of nullsec if you want (tour will end in death but whatever).

Yapping Eevee
Nov 12, 2011

STAND TOGETHER.
FIGHT WITH HONOR.
RESTORE BALANCE.

Eevees play for free.

Cartoon Violence posted:

Certainly! Here is the list starting with videos that have yet to come out:

Some of those we have noted down that a couple of you wanted to possibly participate? When it comes time to record those, I'll shout out in the thread to see if the volunteers are still interested.
A solid list of games, from the looks of things. Should last quite a while.

As for participation, that would be a matter of scheduling. :australia:

Herr Tog
Jun 18, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Good Dumplings posted:

EVE! Play EVE! Shoot, I'll give you guys a tour of nullsec if you want (tour will end in death but whatever).

If they play Eve I want in on this stupid thing

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves
War Thunder is legit good though. Count me in for Guest Staring in that!

Go go Tiger!

Gridlocked fucked around with this message at 06:16 on Dec 23, 2016

Aesculus
Mar 22, 2013

Herr Tog posted:

If they play Eve I want in on this stupid thing

I, too, would like the eve video to be 20 minutes of being repeatedly suicide ganked.

Herr Tog
Jun 18, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Aesculus posted:

I, too, would like the eve video to be 20 minutes of being repeatedly suicide ganked.

that wasn't my plan at all

Aesculus
Mar 22, 2013

Herr Tog posted:

that wasn't my plan at all

It is, however, my plan :unsmigghh:

Das Panzer
Nov 11, 2016
I've never played EVE So I'd jump on that Crazy Train. Scheduling though... That's my main issue

Digital Jello
Nov 2, 2012

Now I have a machine gun. Ho! Ho! Ho!

Cartoon Violence posted:

The Dreaded List

Was Guild Wars 2 really that bad? I don't know a whole lot about it, but it was definitely a thing among my co-workers when it first came out.

Yapping Eevee
Nov 12, 2011

STAND TOGETHER.
FIGHT WITH HONOR.
RESTORE BALANCE.

Eevees play for free.

Digital Jello posted:

Was Guild Wars 2 really that bad? I don't know a whole lot about it, but it was definitely a thing among my co-workers when it first came out.
GW2 is a fun game, but it's the very definition of a completionist's nightmare. Aside from plot quests every ten levels, you can go anywhere and do whatever the hell you want... which paralyses some people with indecision, and breaks others who want to get full map/quest completion for every zone.

Basically if someone has the title "Been There, Done That", they are a crazy person with way too much time on their hands.

Cartoon Violence
Oct 30, 2012

Stop being such goons, you CLODS!

Digital Jello posted:

Was Guild Wars 2 really that bad? I don't know a whole lot about it, but it was definitely a thing among my co-workers when it first came out.

As Yapping Eevee said, GW2 is a legit good game. It was requested, though, and Darcy and I already have paid copies of it, so we will happily show it off for the purposes of this LP.

Yapping Eevee posted:

A solid list of games, from the looks of things. Should last quite a while.

As for participation, that would be a matter of scheduling. :australia:

Understandable! I think we'd all manage to work something out, me and Darcy are already used to having to schedule stuff in different time zones.

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Cartoon Violence
Oct 30, 2012

Stop being such goons, you CLODS!


Happy Holidays everyone! These videos are all going to go up close together between now and New Years! Stay tuned for more, and enjoy!

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