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Cool Buff Man posted:They've got the 10th best offense in the league and their ortg is better with him on the floor so I'm not sure that's a very good argument as long as they're still winning 15th best offense against the 5th easiest opponents defensive schedule.
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Friends, I periodically pull up Robert Horry clutch moments and I still haven't seen him miss in a critical situation. I'm sure, at least once, he's fired a three at the last second and had it clank. Can anyone recall one?
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dokmo posted:You bet what is this the dark ages? We have access to real data now no need to rely on medieval numerology anymore. His cherry picking number quest is killing their offense. I think you will find the lack of shooting is what kills the offense and not Russ
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Dec 12, 2016 20:38
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dokmo posted:15th best offense against the 5th easiest opponents defensive schedule. Ok, but how is he "ruining their offense"? Do you see any other path for that roster to start 15-9 in the western conference besides Russell Westbrook doing everything he can? They can't put ball in hoop
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How much better would OKC be if humanity used a Base 8 counting system?
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James Harden came up one rebound shy of a trip dub in back to back games, both wins, proving he is a better team player than Russ
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Strenuous Manflurry posted:Friends, I periodically pull up Robert Horry clutch moments and I still haven't seen him miss in a critical situation. I'm sure, at least once, he's fired a three at the last second and had it clank. Can anyone recall one? Robert Horry never missed a shot and I look forward to his HoF speech
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Intruder posted:James Harden came up one rebound shy of a trip dub in back to back games, both wins, proving he is a better team player than Russ https://youtu.be/EFPPtrGzzvo
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Holy poo poo Jeff Green is unwelcome on my screen even in a non-basketball context gently caress off Jeff Green
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Strenuous Manflurry posted:Friends, I periodically pull up Robert Horry clutch moments and I still haven't seen him miss in a critical situation. I'm sure, at least once, he's fired a three at the last second and had it clank. Can anyone recall one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6V1-UraQAs https://gfycat.com/SilkyBouncyAbyssiniancat dokmo fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Dec 12, 2016 |
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Strenuous Manflurry posted:Friends, I periodically pull up Robert Horry clutch moments and I still haven't seen him miss in a critical situation. I'm sure, at least once, he's fired a three at the last second and had it clank. Can anyone recall one? http://www.nba.com/games/20030513/LALSAS/recap.html quote:SAN ANTONIO, May 13 (Ticker) -- Robert Horry missed a three-pointer he always makes, and the Los Angeles Lakers lost a game they never should have had a chance to win. They then got blown out in game 6
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Cool Buff Man posted:Holy poo poo Jeff Green is unwelcome on my screen even in a non-basketball context Jeff Green rules
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Cool Buff Man posted:Ok, but how is he "ruining their offense"? Do you see any other path for that roster to start 15-9 in the western conference besides Russell Westbrook doing everything he can? They can't put ball in hoop To be honest I don't see a way they could improve a lot, but there is an easy way they could improve a little. Westbrook is jacking up 4 pullup threes per game while hitting 26% of these, when he could literally blow by every defender in the league. The team has the best collection of cutters and rollers, No defense can defend Westbrook's drives, they fear his finishing and passing off the bounce. If he cut out three of those pull up threes, and had three more layups or passes for dunks, that looks to me like a 1 point per game improvement in offense, which would put them almost in the top 10.
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dokmo posted:To be honest I don't see a way they could improve a lot, but there is an easy way they could improve a little. Westbrook is jacking up 4 pullup threes per game while hitting 26% of these, when he could literally blow by every defender in the league. The team has the best collection of cutters and rollers, No defense can defend Westbrook's drives, they fear his finishing and passing off the bounce. If he cut out three of those pull up threes, and had three more layups or passes for dunks, that looks to me like a 1 point per game improvement in offense, which would put them almost in the top 10. Oh, yeah, i definitely agree they'd benefit from Russ never shooting a pullup three again. A few tweaks would make him the best statistical player of all time, probably. As long as we agree that OKC would be a smoldering crater without him I'm on board with this
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Metapod posted:Jeff Green rules This should be put on your tombstone to shame your family for all of eternity Actually just change metapods name to Jeff Green Rules
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Lol if you think Russ will ever stop those pull-up 3sCool Buff Man posted:This should be put on your tombstone to shame your family for all of eternity :iamafag:
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Metapod posted:Lol if you think Russ will ever stop those pull-up 3s I don't think anybody on earth thinks he will ever stop taking them. It's nice to dream. Sometimes "I wish" my team's best player wasn't the subject of the song "I wish"
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dokmo posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6V1-UraQAs A tragedy 
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Jack's Flow posted:He's bad. Iso wings on bad teams: the complete list. The list is full of guys who became good players, especially if you look at the ones his age or younger (though guys like Joe Johnson and Dwyane Wade were putting up .7 and .8 ws/48 seasons in their mid 20s). He'll get better at defense, and getting to the line. Almost everyone does. The questions are if he can learn to choose better shots (he can create them even, it's just more work) and if his passing ever improves. He seems not to see passes he really should already. Edit: my phone autocorrected dwyane's totally real name DeimosRising fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Dec 12, 2016 |
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Dirk is clearly the MVP, the Mavs were in the playoffs last year. With him missing most games they are the worst team in the league. (And they made upgrades at several positions)
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Cool Buff Man posted:I don't think anybody on earth thinks he will ever stop taking them. It's nice to dream. Kind of like I wished Dwight would stop being a big baby about needing touches in the post Nothing wrong with acknowledging something that would be a welcome change even knowing it'll never happen
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dokmo posted:You bet what is this the dark ages? We have access to real data now no need to rely on medieval numerology anymore. His cherry picking number quest is killing their offense. Their illustrious offense of Home Dipo and a converted PF that launches crappy 3's dokmo posted:To be honest I don't see a way they could improve a lot, but there is an easy way they could improve a little. Westbrook is jacking up 4 pullup threes per game while hitting 26% of these, when he could literally blow by every defender in the league. The team has the best collection of cutters and rollers, No defense can defend Westbrook's drives, they fear his finishing and passing off the bounce. If he cut out three of those pull up threes, and had three more layups or passes for dunks, that looks to me like a 1 point per game improvement in offense, which would put them almost in the top 10. It's easy to tell players to cut and roll more but getting them to change playing habits and team identities is a huge task full of errors, especially with a ton of young guys. Doltos fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Dec 12, 2016 |
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Spacebump posted:Dirk is clearly the MVP, the Mavs were in the playoffs last year. With him missing most games they are the worst team in the league. (And they made upgrades at several positions) well maybe a MVP, but not the MVP Dejan Bimble posted:Wade rhymes with "Wale"
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The Pacers need to pick up 1 player to secure a playoff spot. They "fixed" the bench rotation and the new bench is outscoring opponents by 20.4 points/100 poss...but since CJ Miles has been there, Pacers have been outscored 23.2 points/100 poss with Monta Ellis in the starting squad. They need a clone of CJ Miles to play bench and starter minutes
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Athanatos posted:The Pacers need to pick up 1 player to secure a playoff spot. They "fixed" the bench rotation and the new bench is outscoring opponents by 20.4 points/100 poss...but since CJ Miles has been there, Pacers have been outscored 23.2 points/100 poss with Monta Ellis in the starting squad. What would you give up for one slightly used Lou Williams?
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dokmo posted:You bet what is this the dark ages? We have access to real data now no need to rely on medieval numerology anymore. His cherry picking number quest is killing their offense. dokmo posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6V1-UraQAs You're dead inside
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Athanatos posted:The Pacers need to pick up 1 player to secure a playoff spot. They "fixed" the bench rotation and the new bench is outscoring opponents by 20.4 points/100 poss...but since CJ Miles has been there, Pacers have been outscored 23.2 points/100 poss with Monta Ellis in the starting squad. The Pacers need Wes Matthews and the Mavs could have used Monta before they lost too many games. Now it's too late for that to make sense.
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Athanatos posted:The Pacers need to pick up 1 player to secure a playoff spot. They "fixed" the bench rotation and the new bench is outscoring opponents by 20.4 points/100 poss...but since CJ Miles has been there, Pacers have been outscored 23.2 points/100 poss with Monta Ellis in the starting squad. Iunno how you can make a deal work, unless you find a team willing to take on Ellis as a rehabilitation project. I kinda like the idea of Ross for Thad Young as a Raptors fan, then you could slot Ross as a three point chucker and Young fixes up our PF rotation while we slide Powell into Ross's role, but gently caress if I know if that's realistic/I'm also an idiot. I doubt the Pacers are interested in getting rid of Young, I'm just Bill Simmons-ing here.
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Athanatos posted:The Pacers need to pick up 1 player to secure a playoff spot. They "fixed" the bench rotation and the new bench is outscoring opponents by 20.4 points/100 poss...but since CJ Miles has been there, Pacers have been outscored 23.2 points/100 poss with Monta Ellis in the starting squad. Rudy Gay on a one year rental could be had by anyone who wants him for probably very little.
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Death By The Blues posted:Raptors bench beasting. Norman is a treasure. I think Bebe is at something like 80% FG% over the last two weeks or something dumb. I suppose he only really exists to dunk and finish alley oops a couple of times a game, but damned if he ain't good at it. Pretty much the polar opposite of Bismack 'Hands of Stone' Biyombo when it comes to catching the ball in the post.
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In the Dwayne Casey System, players do One Thing And One Thing Only. Also that thing is never allowed to change. Bebe gets to be the Defensive Centre by default though because JV is the Offensive Centre and we wouldn't want to to try to let him do anything else because that's not his one thing. Also JV is bad at a defense. But hey, so is Bebe. He can hit monster blocks though, so he's got that going for him.
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tanglewood1420 posted:Rudy Gay on a one year rental could be had by anyone who wants him for probably very little. The Rudy Gay to the Pacers rumors have been bounced around every pre-season and near the trade deadline for years now. At this point I think Larry Bird just refuses to bring him in.
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Athanatos posted:The Rudy Gay to the Pacers rumors have been bounced around every pre-season and near the trade deadline for years now. At this point I think Larry Bird just refuses to bring him in. Apparently this summer Rodney Stuckey or Monta Ellis were the names bounced around, which we thankfully said no to.
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Athanatos posted:The Rudy Gay to the Pacers rumors have been bounced around every pre-season and near the trade deadline for years now. At this point I think Larry Bird just refuses to bring him in. With Mike Pence off to the White House, maybe Indiana will allow a Gay into the state.
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